Yousaf Raza Gillani English

What do u guys think of Gillani english?? has he got the potential to represent pakistan internationally??

Is speaking english a criteria for somebody to represent Pakistan internationally? English is a truly global language but let's come out of this slavish mindset that if somebody does not have proper grasp of english then that is something to be ashamed of.

i m with kamranonline on this. Razz

but u know what i gues he cant even speak urdu well.
or
i think i should say he doznt know how to express himself.

may b i m a bit harsh on him but, believe me this was the very first impression that i had of him when i heard him for the first time.

WHAT DO U PPL THINK OF COMPARING HIM WITH INZAMAM Cool

Hello,
I think he needs more potential............

I wonder why he can not speak in Urdu when his Engilsh is horrible? It is better than being ridiculed.

	citizen wrote:
	Is speaking english a criteria for somebody to represent Pakistan internationally? English is a truly global language but let's come out of this slavish mindset that if somebody does not have proper grasp of english then that is something to be ashamed of.

I agree, english is not a criterion for someone to be a good prime minister or leader, its the people who have that kind of sycophantic thinking back home about english, who are actually destroying our culture and prestige of Urdu language. Please come out of slavery and have some self respect as a nation.

However at the same time I would also say that Gillani shouldnt speak english, he should only speak Urdu.

Communication skills play a very important role in this era.For a leader who represents Pakistan shoul have this gift.I am quite disappointed with the performance Gilani perform there.Their think tanks wispering one another while Gilani addressing them.

	G.A.Chaudhry wrote:
	Communication skills play a very important role in this era.For a leader who represents Pakistan shoul have this gift.I am quite disappointed with the performance Gilani perform there.Their think tanks wispering one another while Gilani addressing them.

There is a difference between communication skills and english language speaking, and english language doesnt play an important role in this era, as all successful european nations dont speak english at all, e.g. France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Sweden. There is no harm in speaking english but there is alot of harm in making english a standard to judge complexes of people about western culture and adapting that western culture just to show yourself superior than others. You know chinese, germans and some french know very well english but they still dont speak in english with anyone they make other people speak in their language or use an interpreter. that is what we call self respect and respect of your own language, they are not complexed nation as they dont feel speaking english will make them superior than other citizen; they are self contented and proud nation.

	citizen wrote:
	Is speaking english a criteria for somebody to represent Pakistan internationally? English is a truly global language but let's come out of this slavish mindset that if somebody does not have proper grasp of english then that is something to be ashamed of.

well I thinkso english shoudl net be the issue, he shoudl speak in urdu, exactly the way Iranian President Ahmad E Najaat speaks, Although Iranian president is Engineering professor by profession but he takes pride in his language and our PM should also do the same.

There is no egg in the eggplant,
No ham in the hamburger
And neither pine nor apple in the pineapple.
English muffins were not invented in England,
French fries were not invented in France.

We sometimes take English for granted, but if we examine its paradoxes we find that:
Quicksand takes you down slowly,
Boxing rings are square,

If writers write, how come fingers don't fing?
If the plural of tooth is teeth,
Shouldn't the plural of phone booth be phone beeth?
If the teacher taught,
Why hasn't the preacher praught?

If a vegetarian eats vegetables,
What the heck does a humanitarian eat?
Why do people recite at a play,
Yet play at a recital?
Park on driveways and
Drive on parkways?
How can the weather be as hot as hell on one day
And as cold as hell on another?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language where a house can burn up as it burns down,
And in which you fill in a form
By filling it out
And a bell is only heard once it goes!

English was invented by people, not computers,
And it reflects the creativity of the human race
(Which of course isn't a race at all.)

That is why:
When the stars are out they are visible,
But when the lights are out they are invisible.
And why it is that when I wind up my watch
It starts,
But when I wind up this poem
It ends.

pamada wrote:

There is no egg in the eggplant,
No ham in the hamburger
And neither pine nor apple in the pineapple.
English muffins were not invented in England,
French fries were not invented in France.

We sometimes take English for granted, but if we examine its paradoxes we find that:
Quicksand takes you down slowly,
Boxing rings are square,

If writers write, how come fingers don't fing?
If the plural of tooth is teeth,
Shouldn't the plural of phone booth be phone beeth?
If the teacher taught,
Why hasn't the preacher praught?

If a vegetarian eats vegetables,
What the heck does a humanitarian eat?
Why do people recite at a play,
Yet play at a recital?
Park on driveways and
Drive on parkways?
How can the weather be as hot as hell on one day
And as cold as hell on another?

You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language where a house can burn up as it burns down,
And in which you fill in a form
By filling it out
And a bell is only heard once it goes!

English was invented by people, not computers,
And it reflects the creativity of the human race
(Which of course isn't a race at all.)

That is why:
When the stars are out they are visible,
But when the lights are out they are invisible.
And why it is that when I wind up my watch
It starts,
But when I wind up this poem
It ends.

you missed something, which is:

if B U T sounds like BUT(BATT) then why not P U T also sounds like (BUT) i-e PUT (PATT) Smile

ok if u are better than him in english why u didnt take his place Very Happy

PEOPLE ,,,,,, english is not a mark of a good leader or a good presenter of any thing ,,,,

the importent thing is the((( knowledge))) he has ,,,,,

there is alot of Translators every where Cool

but there is a few people who has the knowledge to not talk about this Superficial topic Cool

and i think u people just love to Criticise every one

and you r not better than those people by the way Cool

sorry for this reply but the way of the owner of this thread talking and other's replies make me put this reply

sorry again Smile

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English is not a criteria to be a good leader.but atleast he should know how to express himself.He is not well groomed.thats for sure.He is not a good statesman.

If he doesn't know how to speak english and calls the Kashmir issue "a thing", i think this is pretty horrible sign of where are we going. Ok if you don't know, don't speak!!and be proud of it.

And talking about the self confidence, just watch his video with bush on youtube. Common man ur freakin Prime Minister of Pakistan, Be proud of it. BTW he did the right thing by not attending the press conference afterwards, cos it was going to be in english for sure.

The problem with us is we neither acknowledge talibization nor modernization. We start giving examples of people that have no resemblance to us. Talking of the Iranian prime minister; he is not fed on America's fund. Our government is. If you want to see a modern Pakistan like India, i still think, our prime minister should know how to speak english. If you wanna go towards talibization then all the critics are correct.

I agree with ugwaraich first post in reply to this topic.Yes English no the criterion,we should not hesitate to speak our national language & let it be translated like,Chinese,Arabic,Russian,French etc.One should use the language as a statesman in which he can express his views better.

I also agree with the view that we should speak our own language. Even if our PM or president etc can speak it, they still must speak urdu... But well how can you expect this from the ruler who sell their own people... You can only expect them speaking the language of their masters.... Sad

........... which they try to even when they can't speak it..

loje, pamada and uqwaraich welldone,,,so long he represents our ppl he is ok wid us v shud not bother abt his english,,,he is more educated then these western leaders as he can speak and understand their language but can they do so abt our language

hi guys
may b hez not gd at eng or mayb hez worse at urdu too
but to me the real subject is that he doesnt have his own tongue in his mouth
when he has to think from his own brain but he can only speak someone else's brain how can we find him as a real representative of Pakistan?

well i think its not just about his english or urdu, he seems very dull the way he tries to explain his view point.
i dont c him a very able leader though i hope he turns out to be the best leader v hav ever had bcz as a nation v cant wait more.
BUT F SOMEONE STANDS UP AND SAYS THAT HE IS WORTH REPRESENTING PAKISTAN KEEPING IN VIEW THE WAY HE CARRIES HIMSELF IN FRONT OF THE WORLD PRESS, I WONT AGREE UNTIL AND UNLESS I FIND HIM CHANGING DRASTICALLY

i dont think just having a bad english is the point here. that guy lacks lots of skills that need to be there to represent a nation. he is not even confident enough. about speaking english, we should use urdu as our medium of communication because it is our national language. just like china, iran and so many more countries who always have translators with them and they feel proud of their language. we have our own language and we should be proud of it.if george bush doesnt speak urdu when he comes to pakistan, why should our representers speak english when they go to foreign countries?

Yaar Gillani Saheb ko apna accent professional karna chaiye..

URDU BOLTEY TO ZIAADA ACHA REHTA.

The prime minsister lacks confidence,vigour and a sense of essence regardless of the language he utters. His words are inarticulate and if he doesn't know how to speak in english then he should bloo.. well find himself an interpreter so he can refrain from embarrasing us Pakistanis time and time again when an intellectual shoves a mic in his face.

English is not a criterion for good governance but for the sake of our pride get yourself an interpreter!

Ahmedinejad doesn't utter a word of english and speaks persian when making talks on the international podium not because he can't speak english but because he chooses to speak his mother tongue. His witty and in-your-face come backs to the journalists' cheeky comments leaves the western media spell bound! Gilani can't even form a coherent sentence let alone impart a sense of identity and dignity!

Speaking English is not and should not be a criteria for representig the nation on the world forums, but our leaders should take pride in speaking urdu on international forums instead of speaking icorrect english and making redicule of the whole nation.

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