Will Musharraf face Impeachment?

Right now the parliament is strong enough to impeach him, and he cant do anything since he isn't in the army anymore. also the current chief of army staff has made a rule in the army, that no one in army will interfere in politics, america has also stopped supporting musharraf and is saying it will work with the new goverment, a couple of senators said that.

Here is a recent article by The News:

First, at least half of the members of the National Assembly would present a written notice to the speaker of their intention to move a resolution for the impeachment of the president. The notice would set out the particulars of the charge against him. In this case the charge is simple. The president violated the constitution on November 3, 2007.

The Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) and its allies are in a comfortable position to impeach President Pervez Musharraf in less than two weeks with a combined two-thirds vote in a joint sitting of Parliament.

"A collective two-thirds vote is required from a joint sitting of the National Assembly and Senate irrespective of party strength in one of the Houses," parliamentary and constitutional experts confirmed to The News.

The Constitution clearly provides that the process of a constitutional amendment and impeachment is absolutely different from each other. "An amendment requires two-thirds approval from both Houses separately, whereas the impeachment resolution needs the same vote from their joint sitting," the experts say. A total number of 295 votes in favour of impeachment process can pack up the president after a due course of procedure spanning not less than one week but not beyond 14 days once one-half of either House tables an impeachment motion. The impeachment motion needs signature of at least 50 senators to table it before the Upper House of Parliament OR 171 MNAs to submit before Lower House of Parliament and the partners in government-in-waiting fulfil the requirement.

As far as the number game is concerned, the full strength of both National Assembly and Senate stands at 442 and 295 makes a two-thirds majority for a successful impeachment motion.

The sub-section of Article 47 (Removal or Impeachment of President) of Constitution makes the things crystal clear. "If, after consideration of the result of the investigation, if any, a resolution is passed at the joint sitting by the votes of not less than two-thirds of the total membership of [Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament)] declaring that the President is unfit to hold the office due to incapacity or is guilty of violating the Constitution or of gross misconduct, the President shall cease to hold office immediately on the passing of the resolution." The case for bringing a constitutional amendment for enactment is to get at least 228 votes from the National Assembly and 67 from the Senate otherwise there is no methodology within the constitutional ambit.

Going by 249 votes the PPP's Speaker Dr Fehmida Mirza obtained on March 19, there is a requirement of 46 more votes whether from the National Assembly or the Senate. The PPP, PML-N and allies constitute a numerical strength of 42 in the Senate and they need six votes to table an impeachment motion. But if the motion is moved in the NA, only four more seats would be needed to make up a two-thirds majority in a joint sitting.

Senator Gulzar, along with his two senator sons, and four Fata senators, are said to be ready to be part of new government, and will be enough to meet the requirement of 295 votes for impeachment without cooperation on the part of the Q-League or its allies, though many individuals are ready to switch over their loyalties.

The Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), that has withdrawn its candidacy in favour of PPP nominee for the office of the prime minister, may add the decisive number if it supports the impeachment. It may also make the difference for constitutional amendments though a large number of Q-League senators are also ready to switch over their loyalties.

So the magic number is 295 in the Parliament (Both the NA and Senate) if 295(2/3rd Majority) out of 442 vote for Musharrafs impeachment...he packs up. Right now WITH or WITHOUT MQM, PPP-Led Coalition can impeach Musharraf. Here are the stats:

Number Required to Impeach the President: 295

With MQM:

National Assembly: 274
Senate: 54
Total: 328

Without MQM:

National Assembly: 249
Senate: 48
Total: 297

So both of them are above 295...

The Coalition has 4 parties right now: PPP, PML-N, ANP and MMA

MQM may join it soon, which will extend the support.

Did anyone notice Musharraf's face while taking Oath from PM? It seemed as if he is about to cry. Now he will know..

Get mature, get along, and get going because we have to go far.

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-Ya Get mature and forget about all those people disappeared during mushraf's government... Try saying this to their parents
-Ya Get going and forget about the red mosque massacre...Try saying this those who lost their loved ones
-Ya Get along and forget about the 12th May blood shed by MQM underworld in Karachi under the auspices of Musharaf....don't try saying this to relatives just try saying anything to MQM
-Not to mention the bomb blast

How many piles of dead bodies will I have to smash under my feet to get going and get along. I am better immature and I prefer staying here until justice is served!!!

I dont think he will stay till that time. Mr. Musharaf will surely quit before impeachment stage. There are news that he is packing up, and he'l not only leave the office but also the country.
instead of impeachment, the coallition govt would like to decide this matter in court. after the pre emergency court will start working again, the case of mr. musharaf's candidature will b opened again n he has to go.

Mushi has done so many bad things that he should face all the bad concequences

i dont think mr.musharraf will face it. coz the things r goin in such a way that pml-n will have lesser hold on ppp and so far ppp does not seems to be comitted for impeachment.
also we should not be too much excited on anybody's speech. we hear budget speech that seems very nice in the beginning but ends for making more problems.
mr.gilani so far has just made a speech and if he delivers after some period of time then we can say he or they will do otherwise history is full of speech.

mushi is not a sportsman; now he is weaping& crying after the defeated of his party; now he is seeking towards Uncle som; Laughing

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he should be impeached

No one is above law and constitution.

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well mushi wont face impeachment... he ll do everything to save his seat... even if he has to dissolve the parliment again... i think he is gona let CJP back in office in trade for his seat..

pervez has not done any thing wrong why he should be impeached ? some ways he has saved us from usa natoos bombings , but now this govt has very practical approach that talk to talabans & others .because talabans are our muslims brother . we can not become ameicans or westerns ,we will always be true jehadis muslims to stop the evil forces , Smile

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mush isnt going to get impeached. and its about time we grew up and got along. all the feudal lords/politicians and their bought out lawyers/judges are corrupt too, so unless we are going to clean house then it might mean something. but each one has something on the other. so they will all cooperate like they should and move forward.

FUTURE looks united and prosperous!!!! Wink

Musharaf should not be allowed to go without impeach. Those people who say that he has not done anything should only think what has he given us within the last eight years, bomb blasts - killing of innocent talibat in lal masjid - high prices of daily need items

these all factors of high prices killings bombings are not connected to pervez ,these were the west conpiracies ,but now some one said the right thing that we all pakistanis pay attentions to all all judges fuedel lords govt officers ,that they refrain from the past crimes & in the mean time get out of westen jaal ,what west want ? is to make us living in gora sahibs times again ,
we want to be a free nation like iran north korea not like japan germany india .

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I hope he does

No he shouldnt, cuz its not in favour of the country. It will be the reason of a horrible crises in Pakistan. Only Nawaz sharif wants it cuz he doesnt want peace and happiness in country,.

Well i believe he should be hanged so that any future dictator who for some reason wants to come in to power will consider hundered times before he will takeover. Unfortunately when ever we have an Army dictator we are afraid of prosecuting him cuz our coward politicians dont want to touch him because of the army behind him. If they will impeach Musharraf and Hang him than you will see the change. Next time any Army General will not dare to interfere in politics Not only that even the politicians will also be scared too..So they have to take this BOLD step in order to bring Pakistan on track of good politics with having the national interest first and personal interest in the last..But boy one can only wish and hope from those present politicians of Pakistan.

Politics is a very funny game. Todays enemies can be tomorrows allys. Who though of pp and ML coming on one platform for their interests.

So far it seems that it is in no one interest to work with Musharraf, no one needs him now. But then does Uncle Sam needs him or not??

Who is willing to be uncle sam's new bull dog who will do the dirty work for him????

Watch your space.

President Musharraf should step down from his post and should appologise to nation and spend normal life and face it, rather then being pushed out of his office and brought to justice on streets and face international embaressement. coz he also did few things which were well enough to save him from lot of trouble, coz in his regime there were things and policies which were at time better for pakistan and its people both.

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I dont think that our political leadership possess any political will to impeach the illegal president. They simply play dual games. They talk about different in press conferences and secretly strike deals with the establishment. The judges case and the charter of democracy is an excellent manifestation of their hypocrisy. The only hope is the struggle from the civil society, journalists and media and lawyers community.

	sam228 wrote:
	As he is sheetaan mardood so he does not have to face any sort of guilt.

:s: some one said hang mushraf , how it can happen when his big daddy usa natoos are still alive , we have to shot them first may be then pakistan would be a free country . other wise this junk of west would not let us do what ever we want , already european salena told pakistan not to talk to alqaida . why not , talabans too our brothers shria laws must be for pakistan other wise , pakistan would not be an islamic country it would be named a jews state of muslims killers like israeal usa europe ,

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Musharraf is mentally lost. The crimes he has committed, he should be put inside a cage on a donkey cart and that cart should travel all over the country and people should be informed in advance of the arrival time of the donkey cart carrying Mushrraf's cage. It would be good to put his close aids along with him so that he would not feel alone.. Cheers

Musharaf has to go. Now it is not just a political reason for him to go. Nation hate this one person so much that it has become a sentimental issue. On the other hand Musharaf's biggest fear and his reason for not leaving the post Voluntarily is for his life , There are so many people and organizations waiting for him to get out of the iron clad walls of his current residence that i doubt he will live even few months if he leaves the seat.