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aimenqazi
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| WHY DO WOMEN WEAR JEANS AND T-SHIRT????? |
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i wonder why women of Pakistan wear jeans and t-shirts......i've not seen westners wearing shalwar qameez and dupata .........then why do they copy them ??????????
AND PLEASE DONT TAKE ME WRONG AM NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANY ONE
I SERIOUSLY WANT TO KNOW???????????????????????
Disclaimer: THE OPINION GIVEN ABOVE IS NEITHER TO HURT ANY ONE NOR TO OFFEND ANY ONE ITS JUST AN OPINION.
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| Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:24 am |
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we achieved physical independence 61 years before but our minds are still slave ...thats y we follow the trends of western ppl and hesitate to promote our culture ...sick thinking :S
baqi women ziada acha justify kar sakti hain isay ... y do they wear jeans and pants ?
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| Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:09 pm |
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Hollow
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If you asked this Question on islam bases then its allowed if she cover her hole body. There is nothing wrong to wear Jeans, but wrong with T-shirts. Because T-shirt could not able to hide her body
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| Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:34 pm |
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aimenqazi
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I would honestly like to hear it from ladies ............their views ......just want to clear my mind
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:22 am |
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pamada
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As far as it’s comfortable and cute there is nothing wrong wearing it and it’s a women choice.
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:12 am |
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Anni Ali
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its copmfortable..and easy to take care of it...
i think there is no harm in wearing jeans if its appropite...and hid ur skin...
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:27 am |
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ugwaraich
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Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1475
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If you asked this Question on islam bases then its allowed if she cover her hole body. There is nothing wrong to wear Jeans, but wrong with T-shirts. Because T-shirt could not able to hide her body |
Islamically no man or woman is supposed to wear anything that shows the curves of the body, Jeans clearly shows everything as jeans is always a tight outfit; T-shirt is in same category. However you can wear jeans and T-shirts under complete body scarf, so that no one can see your body features/ornaments. so let me correct you even Jeans is not allowed unless its hidden. Also women are supposed to cover their hair, which means that they cant go out with jeans and T-shirts on and their hair covered, that is so stupid.
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:14 am |
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ugwaraich
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its copmfortable..and easy to take care of it...
i think there is no harm in wearing jeans if its appropite...and hid ur skin... |
Try to understand, when you are a muslim and you call yourself a muslim then "its not important what you think, the only think important is what God says if you believe in Him and a believer"; if you believe in Quran then you should accept whatever it says and atleast try to practice it ignoring your personal thoughts, if you dont believe in these verses then you have to rethink about your religion. for your information:
"Those who harass believing men and believing women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) A calumny and a grievous sin. O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) That is most convenient, that they may be distinguished and not be harassed.
And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 33:58-59)
"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornments except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s fathers, their son’s, their husband’s sons, their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sisters sons or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And beg Allah to forgive you all O believers, that you may be successful. " (Qur'an 24:31)
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 6:16 am |
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aimenqazi
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[quote="pamada"]As far as it’s comfortable and cute there is nothing wrong wearing it and it’s a women choice.[/quote]
[quote="Anni Ali"]its copmfortable..and easy to take care of it...
i think there is no harm in wearing jeans if its appropite...and hid ur skin...[/quote]
well well what about the figure..... i think it distinctly describes all the figure....welll lets not get into to this debate ...alll am saying is that our own dress is also comfortable .....much better than jeans... then why jeans and specially T-Shirt... my problem is that we are losing our culture.....we should try to hang on to our culture and get out the inferiority complex of jean and english that we are in............... WE ARE WESTOXIFIED..........
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:24 am |
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pamada
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its copmfortable..and easy to take care of it...
i think there is no harm in wearing jeans if its appropite...and hid ur skin... |
Try to understand, when you are a muslim and you call yourself a muslim then "its not important what you think, the only think important is what God says if you believe in Him and a believer"; if you believe in Quran then you should accept whatever it says and atleast try to practice it ignoring your personal thoughts, if you dont believe in these verses then you have to rethink about your religion. for your information:
"Those who harass believing men and believing women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) A calumny and a grievous sin. O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) That is most convenient, that they may be distinguished and not be harassed.
And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 33:58-59)
"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornments except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s fathers, their son’s, their husband’s sons, their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sisters sons or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And beg Allah to forgive you all O believers, that you may be successful. " (Qur'an 24:31) |
Is wearing a tie permissable in Islam?
the topic was about why Pakistani women wear jeans? it'll be fair if you please open another thread for the topic, "wearing a jeans is allowed in Islam or not?.
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:48 pm |
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faeda
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Well Brother and Sisters,
As far as my understanding , there is no harm in wearing tie and even adapting different cultural colthes because it has nothing to do with your religious belief and if it is not affecting your faith you have right to do so.
for example, you can not wear Arabic clothing if you are living in somewhere very cold. The Arabic dress provides comfort and ease in HOT weather but it will not be effective in cold weather so wearing tie is just like adapting the condition of that culture or environment.
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:58 pm |
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mohammadakhalid
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i cant wait to watch the final
cmon pakistan!!
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 8:59 pm |
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aimenqazi
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Faeda bhia arbiiyon key kapray pehna hamara culture naheen hai.........topic different direction main jaaa raha hai...............yahan islam main jeans hai ya naheen ki baat naheen ho rahee ........ humraray cultural dresses bhi bahut cute aramdeh aur pyaray hain why not those instead of jeans.................
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| Sat Jun 14, 2008 9:03 pm |
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loje
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2760 Location: Saudia Arabia |
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hi
can i join you here >> i guess tha i can ha ??
ok
about jeans its allows to woman to wear it but just for thier husbends
not to all people
and the woman is not a toy to every one see her and Criticizes How her walk is and Her body shape is
the body of woman is right for herself and her husbend only not for all people
Women are not cheap to show thier body to every one
and by the way she will carry sens all who see her in jeans and do something bad after see her like rape girls or children in general
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:12 am |
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loje
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its copmfortable..and easy to take care of it...
i think there is no harm in wearing jeans if its appropite...and hid ur skin... |
Try to understand, when you are a muslim and you call yourself a muslim then "its not important what you think, the only think important is what God says if you believe in Him and a believer"; if you believe in Quran then you should accept whatever it says and atleast try to practice it ignoring your personal thoughts, if you dont believe in these verses then you have to rethink about your religion. for your information:
"Those who harass believing men and believing women undeservedly, bear (on themselves) A calumny and a grievous sin. O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the wives of true believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad) That is most convenient, that they may be distinguished and not be harassed.
And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." (Qur'an 33:58-59)
"And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things) and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornments except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband’s fathers, their son’s, their husband’s sons, their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sisters sons or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And beg Allah to forgive you all O believers, that you may be successful. " (Qur'an 24:31) |
Is wearing a tie permissable in Islam?
the topic was about why Pakistani women wear jeans? it'll be fair if you please open another thread for the topic, "wearing a jeans is allowed in Islam or not?. |
no its not permissable in islam to people who is not married
i Want To Clear This
becase i was general on it without any explaining
i meant that tie jeans and small skirts that show all the figure of the body without any covering
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:15 am |
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Anveer
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From an islamic point of view any clothing should cover the body and not reveal the shape (figure), this apply's to both men and women but there are more guild lines for women than men.
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:25 am |
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loje
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From an islamic point of view any clothing should cover the body and not reveal the shape (figure), this apply's to both men and women but there are more guild lines for women than men. |
this is the good talking and short one too
any ways ANVEER WELCOME TO THE FORUM
and give us from your wide knowledge 
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 2:55 am |
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iali87
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well according to the topic i think womens should do what they want.....as we men do what we want and when we want!!...they have their own rights.....we must not stop them from doing this.......anyone who wants to wear some thing should do that freely.
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:11 am |
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loje
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well according to the topic i think womens should do what they want.....as we men do what we want and when we want!!...they have their own rights.....we must not stop them from doing this.......anyone who wants to wear some thing should do that freely. |
yes but we should know what is allowed in our religion and what is not
right ???
all men or women
BY THE WAY WELCOME TO THE FORUM 
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:22 am |
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aimenqazi
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well according to the topic i think womens should do what they want.....as we men do what we want and when we want!!...they have their own rights.....we must not stop them from doing this.......anyone who wants to wear some thing should do that freely. |
i seriously disagree with iali87...... thats teenager talk ........... no body is allowed to do what ever they want ........ even in west its not like that....... ppl are pretty conservative in west as well ...........brother every one is under social checks......... i would rather agree more with loje she has clear sence of direction...... and i completely endorse her ideas ........
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:37 am |
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Anni Ali
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ok guys i think it was supose to be a grenal topic...it was just asking y gals wear it..not if islam allows it or not...
in my opinion these r two diff topics...and for those who r just bringing islam in this topic plz go and reread the question...
i wonder why women of Pakistan wear jeans and t-shirts......i've not seen westners wearing shalwar qameez and dupata .........then why do they copy them ?????????? this wut the question asking not if its allowed in islam or not...
give ur opinon on wut u think is the reason behind this...
and Mr ugwaraich...i would love to know tht where in quran it is said tht shalwar kameez is our religious dress. muslims r supose to wear tht....
in my opinion shalwar kameez is our cultural dresss....its a pakistani dresss....not a musilm dresss
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:54 pm |
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punjabidesi
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Its their own choice...so let them..!
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:31 pm |
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aimenqazi
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ok guys i think it was supose to be a grenal topic...it was just asking y gals wear it..not if islam allows it or not...
in my opinion these r two diff topics...and for those who r just bringing islam in this topic plz go and reread the question...
i wonder why women of Pakistan wear jeans and t-shirts......i've not seen westners wearing shalwar qameez and dupata .........then why do they copy them ?????????? this wut the question asking not if its allowed in islam or not...
give ur opinon on wut u think is the reason behind this...
and Mr ugwaraich...i would love to know tht where in quran it is said tht shalwar kameez is our religious dress. muslims r supose to wear tht....
in my opinion shalwar kameez is our cultural dresss....its a pakistani dresss....not a musilm dresss |
well you are right the discussion is why are we adopting another cultures dress and abandoning our own and that would be an absurd exageration if someone calls shalwar qameez islamic dress i'd agree more with ani ali its our culture and even the basic question also reffered to culture only
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:41 pm |
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computer
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you are right
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:52 pm |
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ugwaraich
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ok guys i think it was supose to be a grenal topic...it was just asking y gals wear it..not if islam allows it or not...
in my opinion these r two diff topics...and for those who r just bringing islam in this topic plz go and reread the question...
i wonder why women of Pakistan wear jeans and t-shirts......i've not seen westners wearing shalwar qameez and dupata .........then why do they copy them ?????????? this wut the question asking not if its allowed in islam or not...
give ur opinon on wut u think is the reason behind this...
and Mr ugwaraich...i would love to know tht where in quran it is said tht shalwar kameez is our religious dress. muslims r supose to wear tht....
in my opinion shalwar kameez is our cultural dresss....its a pakistani dresss....not a musilm dresss |
anni your problem is you dont understand the central idea of a message, ok let me just write two lines here.
1) Religion comes first, no matter what culture tells us to do, whenever we are talking about anything about life, we should first consult religion and then other secondary things like culture and country. Also I am not against Shalwar Kameez, I personally believe Shalwar Kameez is a beautiful dress rather than jeans or whatever clothing/outfits. Also Shalwar Kameez is more closer to religion than Jeans or T shirts for the same reasons I explained earlier and this is the reason why it is the part of our culture. Now the person who initiated this question probably dont know the correlation of religion and its impact over the culture and also probably dont know how important is religion than culture.
2) There is no restriction to anyone men or women to wear anything until it is within reasonable limits, as I said earlier women can wear jeans or whatever but they should cover their "Satar", also men can wear anything but should take care of their "Satar". Satar is well explained within the verses that I posted earlier from Quran
Additionally, not even westerners/Christians are allowed to wear the way they do, if you read bible you will find the reason why I am saying this. Its just that westerners are straying away from their religion and actually they have no respect of God and most of them dont even believe in God. So they dont respect what their religion says; the result is that they do whatever they like and their culture has been completely modified.
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| Sun Jun 15, 2008 11:54 pm |
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