Which Muslim Country is performing close to Islam

[/quote] by the way he didnt come here to understand, he came here to misguide people, just like a shatan. He has been acting as the vice of this forum hence completing this forum, because whenever there is virtue, vice comes and tries to dominate it; but as long as we have you loje and people who have strong faith like you we will be alright inshaALLAH.[/quote]

he is (ugwaraich) he understand but his brides debars him from the clear truth Wink

insha allah we all follow our religion and we not Neutralism from " islam "
iam proud to be a muslim alhamdule allah

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[quote="Rana Naeem"]Saudi Arabia is the closest country to Islam, And I think there is a pure Islam, because it is a Hadith that "there will be remain the good condition of Islam in Madina & Makkah"

Thank you[/quoteSorry i dont agree with u. i m living saudia arabia since 2 years. Ager azan may shops closed ho jaien ager jo namz na perhy us ko punished kiya jaye. to kiya Islam kee takmeel ho jate ehay . never. islam may zoro zaber dasti nahe hay. johhen azan howee to 45 minute kay liya sub kuch band ho gaya jo na karey us ko punish karo.
aur jo banda itni door say rozi kay liya aya ho us ko zallil karo yahan per. meri samjhmay yeh nahee aya kay yahan per islam name kee koyee cheze hay bhe ya nahee..bus Makka and Madinnah hee ny to bachaya howa hay.

@ topic. yes off course in pakistan islam is going on proper way

reehab wrote:

	Rana Naeem wrote:
	Saudi Arabia is the closest country to Islam, And I think there is a pure Islam, because it is a Hadith that "there will be remain the good condition of Islam in Madina & Makkah"

Sorry i dont agree with u. i m living saudia arabia since 2 years. Ager azan may shops closed ho jaien ager jo namz na perhy us ko punished kiya jaye. to kiya Islam kee takmeel ho jate ehay . never. islam may zoro zaber dasti nahe hay. johhen azan howee to 45 minute kay liya sub kuch band ho gaya jo na karey us ko punish karo.
aur jo banda itni door say rozi kay liya aya ho us ko zallil karo yahan per. meri samjhmay yeh nahee aya kay yahan per islam name kee koyee cheze hay bhe ya nahee..bus Makka and Madinnah hee ny to bachaya howa hay.

@ topic. yes off course in pakistan islam is going on proper way

hi my friend
i will remind you about what prophet mohamad peace be upon him did to the blind man (ibn om maktoom)
that prophet did not authorize to him to let prayer in mosque with weakness
as well as prayer fear
that prophet did not authorize to warrior in war time
in war time see and this is much more from any time

and why all people upset from that Conversely we should be happy

Why we oppose this beautiful thing in Islam, which reminds us of Islamic unity
The views worshippers who go to the mosque with each others is wonderful and feels reassured
Can we not stop for half an hour Question

are the things that we want buy it will flying out of the market Question

things will remain in place but the time of prayer will go

And any one whos love his religion will agree with me

Allhamdu Le Allah That In Saudia Arabia

And Insha Alah Will Be Like this forever
And Allah Knows Better

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loje wrote:

reehab wrote:

	Rana Naeem wrote:
	Saudi Arabia is the closest country to Islam, And I think there is a pure Islam, because it is a Hadith that "there will be remain the good condition of Islam in Madina & Makkah"

Sorry i dont agree with u. i m living saudia arabia since 2 years. Ager azan may shops closed ho jaien ager jo namz na perhy us ko punished kiya jaye. to kiya Islam kee takmeel ho jate ehay . never. islam may zoro zaber dasti nahe hay. johhen azan howee to 45 minute kay liya sub kuch band ho gaya jo na karey us ko punish karo.
aur jo banda itni door say rozi kay liya aya ho us ko zallil karo yahan per. meri samjhmay yeh nahee aya kay yahan per islam name kee koyee cheze hay bhe ya nahee..bus Makka and Madinnah hee ny to bachaya howa hay.

@ topic. yes off course in pakistan islam is going on proper way

hi my friend
i will remind you about what prophet mohamad peace be upon him did to the blind man (ibn om maktoom)
that prophet did not authorize to him to let prayer in mosque with weakness
as well as prayer fear
that prophet did not authorize to warrior in war time
in war time see and this is much more from any time

and why all people upset from that Conversely we should be happy

Why we oppose this beautiful thing in Islam, which reminds us of Islamic unity
The views worshippers who go to the mosque with each others is wonderful and feels reassured
Can we not stop for half an hour Question

are the things that we want buy it will flying out of the market Question

things will remain in place but the time of prayer will go

And any one whos love his religion will agree with me

Allhamdu Le Allah That In Saudia Arabia

And Insha Alah Will Be Like this forever
And Allah Knows Better

i m still dont agree with u.. i said its not enough to close urs shop untill the finish Namaz.only only just follow the islam. what thy want. and waht we do. in suaida they hates all persons accepts who is saudi. he want be a Ghulam who follow his rules suppose Iqama . whats the Iqama (Residential Permit)they pick our passport.what ever thy want thy do it.
jitni behurmati Quran ke yhe kerty hien . Kibbly kee tarf tangy pehla ker mosque may beth jaty hien. namazi kay aggy say eisy guzert hien jessy koye mela laga ho. saber name kee to koye echeze nahe un may.yeh MUKH mafi( Akkel say peddel ) qome hay. app bolty ho saudia may islam she terha sy hay. jitni merzi aye shdiyan ker lety hien. shah kharch yhe log hien. sharab yeh bhee daba ker petty hein. chres amme hay. ab to rishwet to pakistanuuon say ziyada letty hien.aur kiya bataoon. harem kay pas cigrete yeh log petty hien. ALLAh ke kasem eisy kahty hien, Jessy nauzobillah. ALLAh say agrement ker kay aye hein kay kao kasem aur pura na karo.(NAUZOBILLAH)
aur kuch poochna hay to bataoon ander ka haal. may to rehta hii un kee beech hoon.. ISLAM ammel say ata hay dekhawy say nahee. Yeh to MAKKA and MADINAH ke waja say in per barkaty hien werna sudia. dhondty un ko nakshoon per.. ALLAh hum sub ko neiki kee rah per chalny kee taufik day aur in ko hadayet ke amin

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN ENGLISH PLEASE Rolling Eyes

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	loje wrote:
	CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN ENGLISH PLEASE

Oh. ist of al i would like to say that i m not too good in English. but i will try to explain not in breiflly but just give u some hints.. saudia is going to same way which was gooing before our Last Prophit (PBUH). Suppsoe if u come here. and u give ur passport to other one. and u become a GHUlam.in case u have a emergency and u want to other place with out urs Kafeel permission. so its true. well. when u to prayer. many time i saw some saudies sit thier and his feet r infront of KABBA. and he recipt the quran. some time thay put the Quran on the carpet. what is this.they always do every thing which has been prohabited in islam. example. Bear. Zinna. boys to boys relation.also have merried up to 4 .not 4.and many others.
uff. i think u get my point with lot of mistakes caze the dont fimmilier english as well other. but i m try to understand some points.

reehab wrote:

	loje wrote:
	CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN ENGLISH PLEASE

Oh. ist of al i would like to say that i m not too good in English. but i will try to explain not in breiflly but just give u some hints.. saudia is going to same way which was gooing before our Last Prophit (PBUH). Suppsoe if u come here. and u give ur passport to other one. and u become a GHUlam.in case u have a emergency and u want to other place with out urs Kafeel permission. so its true. well. when u to prayer. many time i saw some saudies sit thier and his feet r infront of KABBA. and he recipt the quran. some time thay put the Quran on the carpet. what is this.they always do every thing which has been prohabited in islam. example. Bear. Zinna. boys to boys relation.also have merried up to 4 .not 4.and many others.
uff. i think u get my point with lot of mistakes caze the dont fimmilier english as well other. but i m try to understand some points.

i can understand some of your talking
but you are talking about which country is the closest to Islam On the application of the provisions in the law courts and general matters not talking about people or one person becase all countires have those people ( not real muslims ) and have all These actions have not been related to Islam not just in saudia ?? or am i wrong ?????

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loje wrote:

reehab wrote:

	loje wrote:
	CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN ENGLISH PLEASE

Oh. ist of al i would like to say that i m not too good in English. but i will try to explain not in breiflly but just give u some hints.. saudia is going to same way which was gooing before our Last Prophit (PBUH). Suppsoe if u come here. and u give ur passport to other one. and u become a GHUlam.in case u have a emergency and u want to other place with out urs Kafeel permission. so its true. well. when u to prayer. many time i saw some saudies sit thier and his feet r infront of KABBA. and he recipt the quran. some time thay put the Quran on the carpet. what is this.they always do every thing which has been prohabited in islam. example. Bear. Zinna. boys to boys relation.also have merried up to 4 .not 4.and many others.
uff. i think u get my point with lot of mistakes caze the dont fimmilier english as well other. but i m try to understand some points.

i can understand some of your talking
but you are talking about which country is the closest to Islam On the application of the provisions in the law courts and general matters not talking about people or one person becase all countires have those people ( not real muslims ) and have all These actions have not been related to Islam not just in saudia ?? or am i wrong ?????

well as u wish but i m still dont agree thsi one caze i have same problem in this country. and compaires the other islamic country which is closest to islam so my anwer is not in saudia. its doesnt mean MAKKAH and MADINNAH is situated in saudia. so islam is fullfil if this country. Islam gave a lesson to obey the rules and obay our PROPHIT (PBUH) . its loyallty goes to all muslim country to prove true muslim socity create.

reehab wrote:

loje wrote:

reehab wrote:

	loje wrote:
	CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN ENGLISH PLEASE

Oh. ist of al i would like to say that i m not too good in English. but i will try to explain not in breiflly but just give u some hints.. saudia is going to same way which was gooing before our Last Prophit (PBUH). Suppsoe if u come here. and u give ur passport to other one. and u become a GHUlam.in case u have a emergency and u want to other place with out urs Kafeel permission. so its true. well. when u to prayer. many time i saw some saudies sit thier and his feet r infront of KABBA. and he recipt the quran. some time thay put the Quran on the carpet. what is this.they always do every thing which has been prohabited in islam. example. Bear. Zinna. boys to boys relation.also have merried up to 4 .not 4.and many others.
uff. i think u get my point with lot of mistakes caze the dont fimmilier english as well other. but i m try to understand some points.

i can understand some of your talking
but you are talking about which country is the closest to Islam On the application of the provisions in the law courts and general matters not talking about people or one person becase all countires have those people ( not real muslims ) and have all These actions have not been related to Islam not just in saudia ?? or am i wrong ?????

well as u wish but i m still dont agree thsi one caze i have same problem in this country. and compaires the other islamic country which is closest to islam so my anwer is not in saudia. its doesnt mean MAKKAH and MADINNAH is situated in saudia. so islam is fullfil if this country. Islam gave a lesson to obey the rules and obay our PROPHIT (PBUH) . its loyallty goes to all muslim country to prove true muslim socity create.

what is your problem ????? did you do some thing ???
let me tell you some thing my friend i know that there is alot of people that is unfair here in saudia arabia and there is alot of people doesnt know about islam too much but instead of that there is alot of people who does know about islam very well and alot of people that fair to the others

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loje wrote:

reehab wrote:

loje wrote:

reehab wrote:

	loje wrote:
	CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT IN ENGLISH PLEASE

Oh. ist of al i would like to say that i m not too good in English. but i will try to explain not in breiflly but just give u some hints.. saudia is going to same way which was gooing before our Last Prophit (PBUH). Suppsoe if u come here. and u give ur passport to other one. and u become a GHUlam.in case u have a emergency and u want to other place with out urs Kafeel permission. so its true. well. when u to prayer. many time i saw some saudies sit thier and his feet r infront of KABBA. and he recipt the quran. some time thay put the Quran on the carpet. what is this.they always do every thing which has been prohabited in islam. example. Bear. Zinna. boys to boys relation.also have merried up to 4 .not 4.and many others.
uff. i think u get my point with lot of mistakes caze the dont fimmilier english as well other. but i m try to understand some points.

i can understand some of your talking
but you are talking about which country is the closest to Islam On the application of the provisions in the law courts and general matters not talking about people or one person becase all countires have those people ( not real muslims ) and have all These actions have not been related to Islam not just in saudia ?? or am i wrong ?????

well as u wish but i m still dont agree thsi one caze i have same problem in this country. and compaires the other islamic country which is closest to islam so my anwer is not in saudia. its doesnt mean MAKKAH and MADINNAH is situated in saudia. so islam is fullfil if this country. Islam gave a lesson to obey the rules and obay our PROPHIT (PBUH) . its loyallty goes to all muslim country to prove true muslim socity create.

what is your problem ????? did you do some thing ???
let me tell you some thing my friend i know that there is alot of people that is unfair here in saudia arabia and there is alot of people doesnt know about islam too much but instead of that there is alot of people who does know about islam very well and alot of people that fair to the others

well i feel hearted when i was come to saudia . i heard in saudia islam is full fill available which i heard about it. but when i reached here. so still i m facing problem. about culture. and waht ever u say. so that case i m not agree to say that islam is better then to other islamic country.

and why is that ?? you hearted ??
what kind of problems ?? can you tell me???
and naturaly there is deffrents culture between saudia arabia and pakistan
and we dont say that islam is better in saudia arabia than any country but we said the sudia is the most countrey that Apply applications of the provisions in the law courts and general matters that what we talking about and please dont Circulate this in all saudia becase there are alot of people that good
thanks

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loje wrote:

and why is that ?? you hearted ??
what kind of problems ?? can you tell me???
and naturaly there is deffrents culture between saudia arabia and pakistan
and we dont say that islam is better in saudia arabia than any country but we said the sudia is the most countrey that Apply applications of the provisions in the law courts and general matters that what we talking about and please dont Circulate this in all saudia becase there are alot of people that good
thanks

yes i agree with u. but my conclusion is that ist u 9 i m weak in english so may be i cant be abble to understand u . what i say. any way. it also doesnt mean that saudia isnt muslim country. yeh many of sudies is too good. but many r too bad. any way. i live in this country and also love this country caze of islamaic and due to MAKKAH and MADINNAH.

reehab wrote:

loje wrote:

and why is that ?? you hearted ??
what kind of problems ?? can you tell me???
and naturaly there is deffrents culture between saudia arabia and pakistan
and we dont say that islam is better in saudia arabia than any country but we said the sudia is the most countrey that Apply applications of the provisions in the law courts and general matters that what we talking about and please dont Circulate this in all saudia becase there are alot of people that good
thanks

yes i agree with u. but my conclusion is that ist u 9 i m weak in english so may be i cant be abble to understand u . what i say. any way. it also doesnt mean that saudia isnt muslim country. yeh many of sudies is too good. but many r too bad. any way. i live in this country and also love this country caze of islamaic and due to MAKKAH and MADINNAH.

what do you mean by that in red coulor

yes there is many saudia too good and many are bad
but also this is in every countries right not just in sudia ????????

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loje wrote:

reehab wrote:

loje wrote:

and why is that ?? you hearted ??
what kind of problems ?? can you tell me???
and naturaly there is deffrents culture between saudia arabia and pakistan
and we dont say that islam is better in saudia arabia than any country but we said the sudia is the most countrey that Apply applications of the provisions in the law courts and general matters that what we talking about and please dont Circulate this in all saudia becase there are alot of people that good
thanks

yes i agree with u. but my conclusion is that ist u 9 i m weak in english so may be i cant be abble to understand u . what i say. any way. it also doesnt mean that saudia isnt muslim country. yeh many of sudies is too good. but many r too bad. any way. i live in this country and also love this country caze of islamaic and due to MAKKAH and MADINNAH.

what do you mean by that in red coulor

yes there is many saudia too good and many are bad
but also this is in every countries right not just in sudia ????????

its mean my problem

in responce to mr rohit how would you know what jihad is? being a hindu.....islam is not restricted to jihad meaning fighting and killing as many people do and think..jihaad has vast areas and meaning next time kindly be educated enough to comment on our religion Islam.

More importantly, Muslims all over the World should practice Islam more closely and with an increased passion. Nations are defined by their socities - not the other way around.

Alhamdolillah, Islam has a great affect on the neighbourhood, on the region and on the World. Peace, prosperity, rule of law, and tolerance, what else do you need?

	Rana Naeem wrote:
	Saudi Arabia is the closest country to Islam, And I think there is a pure Islam, because it is a Hadith that "there will be remain the good condition of Islam in Madina & Makkah" Thank you

Correct

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I think the best form of Islamic system was interpreted by ATATURK

Unfortunately, vested interests , always tried to prove him wrong, but that was not so.

Islam does not mean just filling the mosques........and once out of mosque you start cheating
Islam does not mean forcing a dress code........and within that so called Islamic code, you tell a lie
Islam does not mean you remain dirty
Islam does not mean you become lazy
Islam does not mean you dont study
Islam does not mean you accept or pay bribes.

In the so called muslim countries of today these are the norms . Mosques are full but do they care about HUqooq ul Ibad.

Dont forget Quran says AISI NAMAZEIN UNKEY MOON PER MAR DI JAYEIN GI.

Ataturk told the world, that a turk is a muslim, but he is not a eyes closed, brain closed, unfriendly, mullah.

Ataturk, forced everybody to study, everything (not a few prescribed religious books)
Ataturk forced everybody to be clean
Ataturk forced everybody to have discipline.
Ataturk told everybody not to accept everything with closed eyes and closed brain what mullah says

What else do you want
Ataturk explained that Islam is not what the mullah tell.
Allah gave you brain so you should use it. D

DONT FOLLOW ANYBODY BLINDLY. REMEBER HAD IT BEEN LIKE THAT HAZRAT ALI ETC WOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED ISLAM BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS WERE NOT MUSLIMS

SO PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN.........AND DONT ACCEPT EVERYTHING WHAT A MAULVI SAYS

Unfortunately, this was the biggest crime of Ataturk, that he told the muslim world, to use their brain and not to follow the maulvi blindly.

ahmet2910 wrote:

I think the best form of Islamic system was interpreted by ATATURK

Unfortunately, vested interests , always tried to prove him wrong, but that was not so.

Islam does not mean just filling the mosques........and once out of mosque you start cheating
Islam does not mean forcing a dress code........and within that so called Islamic code, you tell a lie
Islam does not mean you remain dirty
Islam does not mean you become lazy
Islam does not mean you dont study
Islam does not mean you accept or pay bribes.

In the so called muslim countries of today these are the norms . Mosques are full but do they care about HUqooq ul Ibad.

Dont forget Quran says AISI NAMAZEIN UNKEY MOON PER MAR DI JAYEIN GI.

Ataturk told the world, that a turk is a muslim, but he is not a eyes closed, brain closed, unfriendly, mullah.

Ataturk, forced everybody to study, everything (not a few prescribed religious books)
Ataturk forced everybody to be clean
Ataturk forced everybody to have discipline.
Ataturk told everybody not to accept everything with closed eyes and closed brain what mullah says

What else do you want
Ataturk explained that Islam is not what the mullah tell.
Allah gave you brain so you should use it. D

DONT FOLLOW ANYBODY BLINDLY. REMEBER HAD IT BEEN LIKE THAT HAZRAT ALI ETC WOULD NOT HAVE ACCEPTED ISLAM BECAUSE THEIR PARENTS WERE NOT MUSLIMS

SO PLEASE USE YOUR BRAIN.........AND DONT ACCEPT EVERYTHING WHAT A MAULVI SAYS

Unfortunately, this was the biggest crime of Ataturk, that he told the muslim world, to use their brain and not to follow the maulvi blindly.

I am very sorry for you mayte.

may us muslims start using our brains and try to know that how could Islam reach us muslims if there were no muslim scholars?

it seems that you are telling us that we dont need to pray, we dont need to practically do anything but just have clean and pure thinking in our heart about Islam, sit there do nothing, no namaz, no fasting, no Zakaat, no hajj. and thats where Islam completes.

Ataturk followers do nothing practically that will showt that they are muslims. They do all gunah e kabeera, they take interest, they drink, they do all sorts of evil things. I have met a few turks who are followers of Ataturk and I know very well what is their condition, dont just want to share it here.

All I can say is may ALLAH take you out of darkness and this passionate and brainless desperation.

Ugwarraich I have felt & Allah Hamd Do Lillah guessed correctly about Ahmet.I have even told him that,the recent research on Atta Turk is that he was basically Greek & a Jew (Converted to Islam is not proved)How many Ullumahs (Scholars) he killed,changed the Arabic text to latin,destroying the system of khilaffat in Islamic world etc. The way he have dammaged Islam on the name of his own version of Islam,now only his follower "Musharraf" is the living example.We are facing this problem in the different Islamic communities here.There are real Muslim Turks & there are which we call "Atta Turkis" there own definition of Islam like "Enlightened Moderation" by Musharraf.I even told him without knowing about him that even writing "AHMET" which infact is Ahmad the "Kuniyat" of Rasool Allah (SAW).There is no doubt no model Islamic state completely fullfilling the creterions of Islam but Saudi Arabia & Malaysia are relatively better ones.May Allah give us the knowledge & understanding for the real Islam.

i also think that malisa is close to islamic state