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moon14
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| WHAT PART SAUDI ARABIA IS PLAYING FOR THE MUSLIM WORLD? |
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Aslam o Alikum,
Everybody knows the importance of the Arab world specially SAUDI ARABIA.
They have powers in the holeworld,if they can stop the british investegations in crouption matters and make a threat to them it means they can do a lot for the future of the hole islamic wold.Muslim world is in danger now and a big threat of security of life and religion.So all the highly educated muslims can do some thing with the help of these nations.They can make a short term as well as long term planing for the big issues of the muslim world.
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| Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:53 am |
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pery312
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Its not possible as Saudi Arabia is already a victom of British and American Sting, they have peg their couruncies with dollar what more do you want to know.They are simply following orders from Gorayz dear.
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| Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:45 pm |
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loje
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2603 Location: Saudia Arabia |
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Its not possible as Saudi Arabia is already a victom of British and American Sting, they have peg their couruncies with dollar what more do you want to know.They are simply following orders from Gorayz dear. |
means???????????????? 
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| Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:33 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
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Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 1415 Location: 55743 idar-oberstein Germany |
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We are always generalising the people of different areas.Not in any Muslim country the rullers are correct or independent due to their own flaws of character.They are relying more on USA & Britain than having Trust in Allah.But we should not forget in every Muslim country the Masses are true muslims.If we talk bad about Saudi Govt & their short commings than we should forget the other Muslim countries & our own country Pakistan.we can oppose or protest against the Saudi govt behaviour & ttheir relations With USA etc,but we should not forget they are still the biggest & largest donnors in many things to all the Islamic country.Saudis masses do oppose like our masses the Govt policies but in a decent & gentle manner.how do we protest in our countries & which services we are rendering to the Ummah.Which message we are conveying to them.If we want or not as a Muslims we have to love Saudi Arabia,we have to respect them & we have to accept their services for Islam.Even when it is not officialy lounged.We are seeking in every Muslim leader the qualities of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SAW) or atleast that of Sahabahs(RTA) but it is difficult so we have to only select those better than others in Islam.We should not forget the population of Saudi Arabia & our own,there is no comparison.
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| Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:26 pm |
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pery312
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Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 71 Location: Saudi Arabia |
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Its not possible as Saudi Arabia is already a victom of British and American Sting, they have peg their couruncies with dollar what more do you want to know.They are simply following orders from Gorayz dear. |
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Just like our leaders like mushaeraf the shiekhs of saudi arab are deply rely on orders from the english world. they will not say a single word which will go against thier will. America has grip on all the oil fields of saudia, it is just in books that saudi is the biggest oil power. oor jaha tak sawal raha that they are muslims, i tel u one thing. In saudia they do not celebrate eid miladul nabi, shabe meraj, 12 rabi ul awal, not even shabe qader oor sab chezain jo hun celebrate kertay hain as a muslim ,they dont. just rozay or haj,oor kuch nahi hai in kay laws mai. yea loog kay dill mai Nabi ki mohabbat ka say hogi ............bolooooo
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:06 pm |
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loje
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Its not possible as Saudi Arabia is already a victom of British and American Sting, they have peg their couruncies with dollar what more do you want to know.They are simply following orders from Gorayz dear. |
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Just like our leaders like mushaeraf the shiekhs of saudi arab are deply rely on orders from the english world. they will not say a single word which will go against thier will. America has grip on all the oil fields of saudia, it is just in books that saudi is the biggest oil power. oor jaha tak sawal raha that they are muslims, i tel u one thing. In saudia they do not celebrate eid miladul nabi, shabe meraj, 12 rabi ul awal, not even shabe qader oor sab chezain jo hun celebrate kertay hain as a muslim ,they dont. just rozay or haj,oor kuch nahi hai in kay laws mai. yea loog kay dill mai Nabi ki mohabbat ka say hogi ............bolooooo |
listen dear :
this is the policy of a country and Wisdom of our leaders they know what is the best for us and what is the worset
i think that u know exactly what our king do for all muslim country and non muslims
the first country that take action when any Earthquake ,any Disasters is saudi arabia it is the first country which made donations to these countries and the
first moving hospital in lebanon when they had the war saudia had made it to rescue the Injured people
and the biggest thing what saudia did in makkah and almadina i dont want to talk cos every body know about that
and u just forgot all this and still talking in a bad way about saudi arabia??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just cant belive ur kind of people
i can give u list of what saudia did for all muslim nation
but saudi did this and doesnt want any thing in the Conversely but the respect
and its a Generosity of this great counrty not becase its a Duty u should keep that in ur mind
i dont like to be talking in Arrogance way cos we didnt raised in that way and this is not our prophet tought us but u forced me to do it
but its not strange that u talking about other countries cos u talking about ur's in bad way means u dont have any loyalty to ur country
but let me tell u some thing there is a proverb in arabic says in the meaning : the Tree full of fruits throw with stones
so if u r talking about saudia u should see ur self first u r setting in ur country and did nothing to muslim nation even a small thing if u r talking like this u
should show us 1 thing that u did for ur nation
not talking about others
plz give me one thing that u did for ur nation ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! infront of that u just set in ur country and celebrate with ur friends and have fun
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and about the celebrate eid miladul nabi, shabe meraj, 12 rabi ul awal, not even shabe qader this is all is Heresy
i want ask u 2 qustions:
did our prophet celebrate on these days???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ofcarse the answer is no
did the companions celebrate on these days???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ofcarse no
then why u do ????????
is that means u love our prophet more than saudi???? hahahahha i dont think so
i think that u are just like to do heresies cos u dont know about the real islam is ,,, and u want to celebrate in the name of islam
and the real love of our prophet is in following his " sunna " not in celebrateing ??!!!!!
if u r really a muslim u should do the duty of all muslims : following the sunna of our prophet
and u know what sunna is ?? sunna is what ever our prophet Mohamad did in his life
one thing more :
showing the love of our prophet not in celebrtaing on these days
showing the love of our prophet in following him in every thing he did
thanks 
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:42 pm |
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ugwaraich
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A very good reply Loje, you rightly said that celebrating eid milad un nabi, shab e meraaj etc. is not what the companions of prophet did, not even Prophet himself celebrated his birthday, so why should their Ummah do such things?
In fact people who follow the sunnah are the people who love Prophet SAW and not the ones who just find excuses to celebrate some stuff which is not told in Islam.
and pery312 you desperately need to study about the real teachings of Islam, just tell us how many sunnah's you follow everyday, do you offer prayer 5 times a day (which is the most important thing I guess), do you have a beard, do you do zakaat, do you give/take interest (check your bank account), do you respect people and their norms around you (which I am sure you dont as I saw from your comments on Punajbi language)? these are far more important things than just celebrating 12 rabi ul awwal or shab e meraj.
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:07 pm |
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pery312
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Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 71 Location: Saudi Arabia |
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Its not possible as Saudi Arabia is already a victom of British and American Sting, they have peg their couruncies with dollar what more do you want to know.They are simply following orders from Gorayz dear. |
means????????????????  |
Just like our leaders like mushaeraf the shiekhs of saudi arab are deply rely on orders from the english world. they will not say a single word which will go against thier will. America has grip on all the oil fields of saudia, it is just in books that saudi is the biggest oil power. oor jaha tak sawal raha that they are muslims, i tel u one thing. In saudia they do not celebrate eid miladul nabi, shabe meraj, 12 rabi ul awal, not even shabe qader oor sab chezain jo hun celebrate kertay hain as a muslim ,they dont. just rozay or haj,oor kuch nahi hai in kay laws mai. yea loog kay dill mai Nabi ki mohabbat ka say hogi ............bolooooo |
listen dear :
this is the policy of a country and Wisdom of our leaders they know what is the best for us and what is the worset
i think that u know exactly what our king do for all muslim country and non muslims
the first country that take action when any Earthquake ,any Disasters is saudi arabia it is the first country which made donations to these countries and the
first moving hospital in lebanon when they had the war saudia had made it to rescue the Injured people
and the biggest thing what saudia did in makkah and almadina i dont want to talk cos every body know about that
and u just forgot all this and still talking in a bad way about saudi arabia??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just cant belive ur kind of people
i can give u list of what saudia did for all muslim nation
but saudi did this and doesnt want any thing in the Conversely but the respect
and its a Generosity of this great counrty not becase its a Duty u should keep that in ur mind
i dont like to be talking in Arrogance way cos we didnt raised in that way and this is not our prophet tought us but u forced me to do it
but its not strange that u talking about other countries cos u talking about ur's in bad way means u dont have any loyalty to ur country
but let me tell u some thing there is a proverb in arabic says in the meaning : the Tree full of fruits throw with stones
so if u r talking about saudia u should see ur self first u r setting in ur country and did nothing to muslim nation even a small thing if u r talking like this u
should show us 1 thing that u did for ur nation
not talking about others
plz give me one thing that u did for ur nation ??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! infront of that u just set in ur country and celebrate with ur friends and have fun
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and about the celebrate eid miladul nabi, shabe meraj, 12 rabi ul awal, not even shabe qader this is all is Heresy
i want ask u 2 qustions:
did our prophet celebrate on these days???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ofcarse the answer is no
did the companions celebrate on these days???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ofcarse no
then why u do ????????
is that means u love our prophet more than saudi???? hahahahha i dont think so
i think that u are just like to do heresies cos u dont know about the real islam is ,,, and u want to celebrate in the name of islam
and the real love of our prophet is in following his " sunna " not in celebrateing ??!!!!!
if u r really a muslim u should do the duty of all muslims : following the sunna of our prophet
and u know what sunna is ?? sunna is what ever our prophet Mohamad did in his life
one thing more :
showing the love of our prophet not in celebrtaing on these days
showing the love of our prophet in following him in every thing he did
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Very nice speack , Still app kuch nahi janti in kay baray mai, i have been living in Saudia. Paisay say to her insaan kuch bhi khareed sakta hai, main thing jo count hotti hai woh uski nature. App nay shayed 50 saal say baap ko rota nahi deckha hoga, yeah yaha per hotta hai. Yaha insaniat naam ki chease kaha hai in mai, mai saudi awam ki baat ker raha hun, government level per to they are very nice but aik missal hai that kaber ka haal murda hi behter jantta hai, app to duur kay dhool sun rahi ho, zara yaha aker deckho jub pata chalay ga. koon sahi hai koon ghalat,oor khana kabah mai jo ho raha hai uskay baray mai zarah yaha ki local public say pucho. its just they are commercializing it, in loogo ko ager itna hi hai to kioun free mai logo ko umrah or haj nahi kerwatay.
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:37 pm |
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urfi67
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loje and uqwaraich u should understand tht ppl like pery r mentally sick so dont waste ur time on them,,,well the service which Saudi Arabia is doing 4 all the Muslims is not hidden from anybody and v all r proud of it,,,Long Live Saudi Arabia
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:41 pm |
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loje
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2603 Location: Saudia Arabia |
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A very good reply Loje, you rightly said that celebrating eid milad un nabi, shab e meraaj etc. is not what the companions of prophet did, not even Prophet himself celebrated his birthday, so why should their Ummah do such things?
In fact people who follow the sunnah are the people who love Prophet SAW and not the ones who just find excuses to celebrate some stuff which is not told in Islam.
and pery312 you desperately need to study about the real teachings of Islam, just tell us how many sunnah's you follow everyday, do you offer prayer 5 times a day (which is the most important thing I guess), do you have a beard, do you do zakaat, do you give/take interest (check your bank account), do you respect people and their norms around you (which I am sure you dont as I saw from your comments on Punajbi language)? these are far more important things than just celebrating 12 rabi ul awwal or shab e meraj. |
Thank u ugwariach 
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:10 pm |
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loje
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loje and uqwaraich u should understand tht ppl like pery r mentally sick so dont waste ur time on them,,,well the service which Saudi Arabia is doing 4 all the Muslims is not hidden from anybody and v all r proud of it,,,Long Live Saudi Arabia |
thank u urfi i appricate ur reply
and really we love all muslims countries and specially pakistan cos its a long relations between us and strong one
so i said that cos i love my country and when i see people talk bad about it i really get upset
like all people when others talk bad about thier own country
i really cant understand these kind of people
u just give them love and u get hate from them
i dont know whay is that?????!!!!!!!!
but u know what who cares
if u r here and love saudi its really enaugh to us we are proud to be loved from u guys we dont need love from these kind of people
these people who just can hate,,,, they cant love any one and i think that they r cant love them selves even
so we love u back as much u love us and more 
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:18 pm |
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loje
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2603 Location: Saudia Arabia |
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Very nice speack , Still app kuch nahi janti in kay baray mai, i have been living in Saudia. Paisay say to her insaan kuch bhi khareed sakta hai, main thing jo count hotti hai woh uski nature. App nay shayed 50 saal say baap ko rota nahi deckha hoga, yeah yaha per hotta hai. Yaha insaniat naam ki chease kaha hai in mai, mai saudi awam ki baat ker raha hun, government level per to they are very nice but aik missal hai that kaber ka haal murda hi behter jantta hai, app to duur kay dhool sun rahi ho, zara yaha aker deckho jub pata chalay ga. koon sahi hai koon ghalat,oor khana kabah mai jo ho raha hai uskay baray mai zarah yaha ki local public say pucho. its just they are commercializing it, in loogo ko ager itna hi hai to kioun free mai logo ko umrah or haj nahi kerwatay. |
can u translate this in english please????
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:24 pm |
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pery312
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Very nice speack , Still app kuch nahi janti in kay baray mai, i have been living in Saudia. Paisay say to her insaan kuch bhi khareed sakta hai, main thing jo count hotti hai woh uski nature. App nay shayed 50 saal say baap ko rota nahi deckha hoga, yeah yaha per hotta hai. Yaha insaniat naam ki chease kaha hai in mai, mai saudi awam ki baat ker raha hun, government level per to they are very nice but aik missal hai that kaber ka haal murda hi behter jantta hai, app to duur kay dhool sun rahi ho, zara yaha aker deckho jub pata chalay ga. koon sahi hai koon ghalat,oor khana kabah mai jo ho raha hai uskay baray mai zarah yaha ki local public say pucho. its just they are commercializing it, in loogo ko ager itna hi hai to kioun free mai logo ko umrah or haj nahi kerwatay. |
can u translate this in english please???? |
Excuse me,this site is for Pakistanis only, So please do not register it if u dont know Urdu, Better learn it first. Urdu is our mother langauge and we are Pakistanis..................................
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:03 pm |
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loje
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Very nice speack , Still app kuch nahi janti in kay baray mai, i have been living in Saudia. Paisay say to her insaan kuch bhi khareed sakta hai, main thing jo count hotti hai woh uski nature. App nay shayed 50 saal say baap ko rota nahi deckha hoga, yeah yaha per hotta hai. Yaha insaniat naam ki chease kaha hai in mai, mai saudi awam ki baat ker raha hun, government level per to they are very nice but aik missal hai that kaber ka haal murda hi behter jantta hai, app to duur kay dhool sun rahi ho, zara yaha aker deckho jub pata chalay ga. koon sahi hai koon ghalat,oor khana kabah mai jo ho raha hai uskay baray mai zarah yaha ki local public say pucho. its just they are commercializing it, in loogo ko ager itna hi hai to kioun free mai logo ko umrah or haj nahi kerwatay. |
can u translate this in english please???? |
Excuse me,this site is for Pakistanis only, So please do not register it if u dont know Urdu, Better learn it first. Urdu is our mother langauge and we are Pakistanis.................................. |
ha ha ha ha ha ha
dont make me laugh more
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and thanks for ur nice hospitality i just know now ur mentality
second : as i see now u cant just reply me in strong way thats why u just Muddle the argument in selly reply as this one
by the way iam here cos this is my site also as much as ur's and iam here not for u or people like u
iam here for the nicer people i have ever met
if u cant just reply me plz choose another way to shush me not this cheap reply
keep it up silly pery 
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:23 pm |
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ugwaraich
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Very nice speack , Still app kuch nahi janti in kay baray mai, i have been living in Saudia. Paisay say to her insaan kuch bhi khareed sakta hai, main thing jo count hotti hai woh uski nature. App nay shayed 50 saal say baap ko rota nahi deckha hoga, yeah yaha per hotta hai. Yaha insaniat naam ki chease kaha hai in mai, mai saudi awam ki baat ker raha hun, government level per to they are very nice but aik missal hai that kaber ka haal murda hi behter jantta hai, app to duur kay dhool sun rahi ho, zara yaha aker deckho jub pata chalay ga. koon sahi hai koon ghalat,oor khana kabah mai jo ho raha hai uskay baray mai zarah yaha ki local public say pucho. its just they are commercializing it, in loogo ko ager itna hi hai to kioun free mai logo ko umrah or haj nahi kerwatay. |
can u translate this in english please???? |
Excuse me,this site is for Pakistanis only, So please do not register it if u dont know Urdu, Better learn it first. Urdu is our mother langauge and we are Pakistanis.................................. |
ha ha ha, you make no sense at all, this forum is for everyone on this world, not just Pakistanis, but indians, americans, and even israelis. No one can stop anyone if someone doesnt know urdu. And Loje is the most respectable and much valuable member of this site, try correcting your concepts. We speak any language on this forum we want, no one is stopping anyone.
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 5:31 pm |
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