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Kashmir police refuse body demand

Police in Indian-administered Kashmir have rejected a demand for the identification of up to 1,000 bodies, said to be buried in unmarked graves.

A Kashmir-based rights group says it has found the graves, which it alleges could contain the remains of civilians who went missing after their arrest.

A BBC correspondent has been to two of the sites said to contain the bodies.

The Indian army and militants have been accused of numerous human rights abuses in Kashmir in the past two decades.

The Association of the Parents of Disappeared Persons (APDP) has identified a dozen villages in the area around Uri, near the Line of Control that divides Kashmir, where it says nearly 1,000 unidentified people have been buried.

It has demanded that the bodies are identified.

'Foreign militants'

The BBC's Altaf Hussain says that one of the locations identified by the APDP is in Kichama village, 62 kilometres from of Srinagar, the summer capital of Kashmir.

He says that none of the more than 200 apparent graves there has anything to identify the names of the deceased.

The villagers say they have no idea who they were and that the police told them the men were foreign militants killed in fighting with the Indian troops.

According to the villagers, the bodies were either charred, or their faces were mutilated beyond recognition.

But they say the first two bodies exhumed within weeks of their burial were of two civilians allegedly killed in police custody in Srinagar.

The police officer accused of killing them has since absconded.

Last year, police in other parts of Kashmir exhumed at least five bodies of civilians alleged to have died in extra-judicial killings who the authorities said were foreign militants.

Investigation demand

A prominent human rights activist and advisor to the APDP, Pervez Imroz, says the Indian security forces have used the presence of foreign militants as a way of covering up custodial killings.

He says the government should come clean on the issue, by allowing an investigation by the International Commission on Disappeared Persons.

The inspector general of police in the Kashmir valley, SM Sahai, has dismissed the demand, saying the police have investigated all cases of disappearances reported to it and have registered cases for investigation wherever necessary.

The APDP says more than 8,000 people have disappeared in Kashmir in the past two decades.

The government has given conflicting figures, ranging from 3,700 to 111.

This News is taken from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7325001.stm

Pakis! Convince me, why I shouldnt hate everything about india?

why is everyone so quiet on this topic? are you ashamed of yourselves or you just dont want to stop praising indians?

Everyone proly too busy watching movies hehehe.
U know sometimes it gets hard for a Non Pakistani to explain to friends that i luv Pakistan hence i hate india coz most of Pakistanis they see all love india. Oh the battles i fight. People call me traitor or a wanna b Paki lol.

I have simple rule though...Anyone or anything which is good for Pakistan im going to luv it. Whoever or watever is not good for Pakistan im going to hate it. Same goes for my footy teams same goes for my cricket team. If some one s not useful for me team then he can fk off. lol

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Loving pakistan-> Hating bollywood or hating india

get off with this sick mentality !

if one thing is wrong it doesn't mean everything of a country is wrong

wasn't pak supporting evil taliwan,harboring terrorists and people supported them

so everyone in pak is a born terrorists????

are they ??

plz don't spread hatred if you don't want to have peace with your neighbors..neighbors will remain neighbors for ever

coming back to the article:

how do we know that there are civilians .they may be terrorists who went sent by pakistan army ?
they may be talibani/afgani who used to financed by pakistan army

do u know that 15000 terrorists have died !!

they may be civilians 2

so just bcoz there are some graves ,it doesn't meant they are innocent people/.

"Doosro ka theka mat lo ....dont think about muslims outside your country"""

discuss threads about worsening condition of muslims in pakistan!!

yesterday 8 muslims died in karanchi!!

only in elections and other political crisis in pak,20000+has died ..

then how can you talk about a state that has faced 15000 intruders who were not from kashmir,who were controlled by pakistani govt/army

say thanx to india that they have some human rights who even question murders of terrorists

in pak,no1 cares !!!

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Wed, Apr 09, 2008

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/kashmir-to-get-train-service-from-august/62982-3.html

Kashmir: The first train across the Kashmir valley is scheduled to begin its run from August this year. And most people have big expectations of the world's second highest railway line.

It will start running from Qazigund to Baramullah in August and Union Railway Minister Lalu Prasad is planning to inaugurate the prestigious project on Independence Day.

"We have done 66 km of the rail in Kashmir and would be able to run the train from Qazigund to Baramulla from August. The train will boost economy of the place and many people will get job in the railways," Lalu Yadav says.

The Kashmir railway line will be the second highest in the world after the Qinghai-Tibet rail line.

Last year the rail engines and bogies were brought to Srinagar by road. Several dry runs were carried out along the completed tracks.

"This train is a gift to people of Kashmir. It is a luxurious train with good seating capacity, heating arrangement and music system. The names of stations will also be announced in the train," train driver Malkait Singh says.

Train within Kashmir will become a possibility in August, but train from the Valleyv to the rest of the country will take another five years.

That is because a lot of tunneling is still required to connect Qazigund in Kashmir to Katra in Jammu.

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http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/india-news/extensive-development-in-j-k-in-comparison-to-pok_10036194.html

Extensive development in J-K in comparison to POK

April 9th, 2008 - 9:26 pm ICT by admin - Email This Post Email This Post

Brussels, Apr 9 (ANI): Member of European Parliament (MEP) Geoffrey van Orden said there had been extensive political and economic development in Jammu and Kashmir, which was ‘totally lacking’ in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (POK).

The MEPs heavily criticised Pakistan for ‘lack of democracy and development’ in Gilgit and Baltistan areas of POK.

While Pakistan was seeking self-determination in Jammu and Kashmir, “it was not even prepared to allow democracy on its side of the border,” Baronness Emma Nicholson MEP said at a two-day international conference on ‘Constitutional, Political and Socio-economic conditions of Gilgit Baltistan’ at the European Parliament in Brussels on Tuesday.

Nicholson, who represents the Liberal Democratic Party, had authored a report on the “suppression of human rights” in the Northern Areas of POK, which was adopted by the European Parliament in 2007.

Charles Tannock, MEP from the UK, drew a sharp contrast between India and Pakistan in terms of economic development and democracy, while UNPO chief Marino Musdaschin said there could be no progress on Kashmir “till the initiation of full political process in PoK”.

The conference was also attended by several other MEPs, NGO representatives and leaders of the International Kashmir Alliance (IKA).

IKA General Secretary Shaukat Ali Kashmiri wanted the European Parliament to set up a fact-finding mission on the ground realities in the Gilgit and Baltistan region and other parts of the PoK.

He also sought starting of a bus service between Gilgit-Baltistan in PoK and Ladakh as part of Indo-Pak confidence-building measures.

Kashmiri told ANI that the focus of the deliberations would be on trying to determine the Constitutional status of Gilgit and Baltistan, as well as discussions on the measures required to improve socio-economic conditions of the people of these underdeveloped and remote areas.

All five regions — the Kashmir Valley, Jammu, Ladakh, Azad Kashmir and Gilgit and Baltistan are perceived to be disputed and part of the Jammu and Kashmir state, as they were at the time of partition.

The IKA has been at the forefront of promoting intra-Kashmir dialogue.

Kashmiri commentators and political activists see the IKA as a symbol of resistance, as it opposed politics of violence and intimidation.

It has challenged the division of the state, and reinforced state boundaries at a time when so-called nationalists and other Kashmiri leaders are considering different options that could lead to a permanent division of Kashmir.

The IKA has always been of the view that the Government of Pakistan is not in the least bit interested in providing the right of self-determination to Kashmiris and to secure the unity of the state. (ANI)

guys i wont sya anything except u guys r full of hatred...

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noor.yours wrote:

@ug

Loving pakistan-> Hating bollywood or hating india

get off with this sick mentality !

if one thing is wrong it doesn't mean everything of a country is wrong

wasn't pak supporting evil taliwan,harboring terrorists and people supported them

so everyone in pak is a born terrorists

plz don't spread hatred if you don't want to have peace with your neighbors..neighbors will remain neighbors for ever

coming back to the article:

how do we know that there are civilians .they may be terrorists who went sent by pakistan?
they may be talibani/afgani who used to financed by pakistan

do u know that 15000 terrorists have died !!

they may be civilians 2

so just bcoz there are some graves ,it doesn't meant they are innocent people/.

"Doosro ka theka mat lo ....dont think about muslims outside your country"""

discuss threads about worsening condition of muslims in pakistan!!

yesterday 8 muslims died in karanchi!!

only in elections and other political crisis in pak,20000+has died ..

then how can you talk about a state that has faced 15000 intruders who were not from kashmir,who were controlled by pakistani govt/army

say thanx to india that they have some human rights who even question murders of terrorists

in pak,no1 cares !!!

Aha lill bebe is back. Your the one whos forefathers moved long time ago right lol. Yet u seem to b hanging on to a place called forumpakistan.
By the way there s no such thing as taliwan lol. U still have ur grandpa s accent dont ya..
WTF is karanchi lol

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A country is measured by the progress it makes ,not by creating terrorist camps on the name of islam,or by harboring a state sponsored terrorism or by provoking anti nation feelings in citizens of neighboring country...plz keep in mind that pak top leaders know that kashmir will bleed pak more than india.if you are intelliegent enough and think good about your country,stop filling this old kashmir-kashmir dirt in the minds of pakistan......or if u want your politics to run on kashmir,pak will remain backward for next 100 years!!

$2,300m investment in Jammu & Kashmir

7 April 2008

SRINAGAR — A major body of India’s leading entrepreneurs said yesterday that investment flow into Jammu & Kashmir has registered a 10 time-high in the wake of a "remarkable improvement" shown in its security situation in recent years.

Associated Chambers of Commerce and Industry (ASSOCHAM) president Venugopal N. Dhoot said that investment flow into the state went up to $200 million in 2001 to $2,300 million in 2007 following the improvement in its security situation. He told a Press conference in winter capital Jammu that the flow is expected to further accelerate in next five years.

He urged the federal government to extend a special package of Rs50 billion towards improving the necessary infrastructure “so that investment flow towards Jammu and Kashmir fastens both in value and volumes from domestic and overseas industries.”

Meanwhile, ASSOCHAM will host a golf tournament at Gulmarg, Kashmir's premier resort, in September-October this year for twin purposes of promoting the game and attracting the investors to the state from across the country and abroad especially the Gulf, Dhoot said. “The ASSOCHAM is nurturing a dream of showcasing peaceful Kashmir to the participants of 2010 Commonwealth Games and attract people from across the globe to the land known as ‘Paradise on Earth’," he said.

guys can u act bit mature..and just stop dis kids behoviour...

wut wrong wid all tht...its indain culture which they show in their movies..and if u have problme wid tht culture how abt changing ur self first an dthen saying stuff to others...

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	mystery-girl wrote:
	guys can u act bit mature..and just stop dis kids behoviour... wut wrong wid all tht...its indain culture which they show in their movies..and if u have problme wid tht culture how abt changing ur self first an dthen saying stuff to others...

Exactly

Author of this thread should keep such things in mind before he starts such a thread

He should just answer that

how kashmir grave problem who can be of any person/militants or anyone is related

to bollywood ????

http://www.forumpakistan.com/indian-pakistan-t2237,start,50.html

i don't understand what are some of you up to?

Indians are seriously doing well.They are succeeding in every fields.The full world acknowledges their capability and they are proving that they are next superpowers!

why can't pakistani think about the home problems which is like a termite !

The biggest enemy of pak is not india,USA,UK,israel or russia or afgan

its pakistan itself

The old deeds are killing pakistan!

had pak not filled extremism by faking that "india is enemy"

can anyone give me a proof that tells that

1)india attacked kashmir in 1947
2)india attacked pakistan in 1965
3)india attacked pakistani air force in 1971
4)india attacked kargil in 1999
5)india used religious talibani puppets to control and enslave afganistan and teach them anti india and manipulated radical islam ,later sending them to kashmir to do jihad

6)or do india publish anti pak materials in their text books

plz read the history.

evryone of you has good brains ...read the history and analyze right and wrong!!

couldnt india have blocked kashmir river once pak sent those terrorists ???

or once pak attacked kashmir in 1965
or in kargil war

but they never did !!

just see the damage pak army has done to society.

noor.yours just leave them..they will think wut they r lead to think they will never change...its useless to tlk to them abt this...

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First of all, I think although there are more than one and a half billion indians on this earth but very few of them have got senses to talk about things rationally. Everything is revealed in this topic, the posts sent by indians on this topic are completely irrelevant to the real essence of of the topic. But anyways, for those who have little brains and are still living in a dreamland of indophobia, I would like to mention here that I only copied a BBC news, the reference of the link is given under the news text, also this time it is not Pakistanis who are doing propaganda against india its BBC who is revealing indian dirty tactics.

first you need to admit that you are not a muslim, as the way you talk simply freaks me out, taliwan, baziristan... lol.

secondly indians have a little problem, which is that every topic against india anywhere in this world whether it is a forum online or any discussion gathering, the indian mind finally goes upto boasting about india's huge economy, that india has done this and that. The only problem with their brains is that they unable to understand Pakistanis dont have any kind of interest in Indian economy. We are a sovereing country. Also on a serious note, could you please find a single connection between your huge lectures on indian economy boost and the news I posted earlier? waiting for your reply

	mystery-girl wrote:
	noor.yours just leave them..they will think wut they r lead to think they will never change...its useless to tlk to them abt this...

lol, very well said, whatelse we expect from someone being a huge fan of indian movies. After all thats been happening on this forum all that done by abdel, kill2death and noor.yours, its us Pakistanis who are wrong just because we talk about the truth? After all that abusing that muslim sisters have been receiving (if you carefully read the post of these people) its indians who try to rush into forumpakistan and talk dirty they are innocent? and we are criminals.

ALLAH hamain hidayat day, Ameen. I cant say anything more than that for you because you only sound like a teenager and when you are a teenager your heart works faster than your mind, but anyways this is not meant to be an offense you will realise this soon.

i don't know mr.ugwaraich wut wrong wid u ppl...y u think watching bollywood or some other country media is bad...
and another thing before cirtising other first look at urself...i am pakistani and proud to be one but srrry to say tht thses our medai is more wsternzied...our ppl r westernized...and also we r all not tht great tht we can critise other ppl...cus we have tons of fault in us so how abt removing those first and then critise others...
its easy to critise but hard to tak eit...

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mystery-girl wrote:

i don't know mr.ugwaraich wut wrong wid u ppl...y u think watching bollywood or some other country media is bad...
and another thing before cirtising other first look at urself...i am pakistani and proud to be one but srrry to say tht thses our medai is more wsternzied...our ppl r westernized...and also we r all not tht great tht we can critise other ppl...cus we have tons of fault in us so how abt removing those first and then critise others...
its easy to critise but hard to tak eit...

Your Words are Golden words.....
I thanks god pakistaan has your kinds of honest person.....
agar baaki logon ki soch bhi aap jaisi liberal hoti..tau paakistan waakai jannat hota....aur ladai jhagda chorhh kar hum log sabse achhe dost hotey

I salute you Miss you are a great person:) Smile

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A PROUD INDIAN MUSLIM
(Hum hai Hindustaani)

abdel wrote:

mystery-girl wrote:

i don't know mr.ugwaraich wut wrong wid u ppl...y u think watching bollywood or some other country media is bad...
and another thing before cirtising other first look at urself...i am pakistani and proud to be one but srrry to say tht thses our medai is more wsternzied...our ppl r westernized...and also we r all not tht great tht we can critise other ppl...cus we have tons of fault in us so how abt removing those first and then critise others...
its easy to critise but hard to tak eit...

Your Words are Golden words.....
I thanks god pakistaan has your kinds of honest person.....
agar baaki logon ki soch bhi aap jaisi liberal hoti..tau paakistan waakai jannat hota....

I salute you Miss you are a great person:) Smile

thnx for ur comments...but just a samll resquest can u guys also stop saying stupid stuff on the fourm...its just destroying ur image aswellas forum so plzz...next time u post keep this in ur mind tht ur not offending anyone...plz and thnx...

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mystery-girl wrote:

abdel wrote:

mystery-girl wrote:

i don't know mr.ugwaraich wut wrong wid u ppl...y u think watching bollywood or some other country media is bad...
and another thing before cirtising other first look at urself...i am pakistani and proud to be one but srrry to say tht thses our medai is more wsternzied...our ppl r westernized...and also we r all not tht great tht we can critise other ppl...cus we have tons of fault in us so how abt removing those first and then critise others...
its easy to critise but hard to tak eit...

Your Words are Golden words.....
I thanks god pakistaan has your kinds of honest person.....
agar baaki logon ki soch bhi aap jaisi liberal hoti..tau paakistan waakai jannat hota....

I salute you Miss you are a great person:) Smile

thnx for ur comments...but just a samll resquest can u guys also stop saying stupid stuff on the fourm...its just destroying ur image aswellas forum so plzz...next time u post keep this in ur mind tht ur not offending anyone...plz and thnx...

to be honest, i registerd here not to offend anyone..........infact i had few good paki friends during my study time in germany..
i just wanted learn more about pakistan..and discuss some issues with pakistani peoples..that'swhy i registered

but idhar ka najaara hi kuchh aur hai har koi bewajah india ko gaali deraha hai.....afterall we are also human....gussa aahi jaati hai itni bakbak dekhkar
why somuch hatred towards india....we indians never hate pakistaan... Embarassed

whatever i said , it was pure natural reaction..........NOTHING INTENTIONAL.

If you wish, i will not visit anymore this site.....because my goal was not to offend anyone......but to discuss some healthy topics(not anti india Very Happy

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i am happy atleast few your kinds members also exist on this site....

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Mr abdel plz i don't want u to leave the forum or anyone else..but just want to learn to ignor...cus thts wut i do to...and srry to say Pakistanis r not the one who r offeneding Indai but some Indian r also offeneding Pakistan...my point wuts the use of all this garbabge....plzz guys forget wut happened live in peace and let other do the same...

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mystery-girl wrote:

i don't know mr.ugwaraich wut wrong wid u ppl...y u think watching bollywood or some other country media is bad...
and another thing before cirtising other first look at urself...i am pakistani and proud to be one but srrry to say tht thses our medai is more wsternzied...our ppl r westernized...and also we r all not tht great tht we can critise other ppl...cus we have tons of fault in us so how abt removing those first and then critise others...
its easy to critise but hard to tak eit...

you're mind is also thinking only one way, not the other. But this time I will not repeat myself, you better go back to my posts to understand it and if you dont want to understand then thats upto you.

"if someone is killing people it doesnt mean that you should as well start killing people"

i am not tlking abt all tht i am just asking y so much haterd towards Indian?

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	mystery-girl wrote:
	i am not tlking abt all tht i am just asking y so much haterd towards Indian?

well we Pakistanis are very open, we say what we have in our heart. you will never be able to see inside of an indian never, they are very nice on your face but as soon as they go apart, you will never imagine what they will think about you.
as I understand you are not taught proper Urdu, we have a proverb in Urdu, which is "baghal main churi, moon main raam raam", it means that indians are hiding a knife in their arm pits while on face they are saying oh God(ram), oh God(ram), being so humble. But anyways, there are loads of reasons why atleast I dont like indians,
Main reason is Kashmir, we have our muslim brothers being killed, our sisters being dishonoured, our kids being bombed, our old men being tortured, after seeing all this, there is absolutely not a single reason in this world which can convince me start liking indians. Also I have quite a few indian friends here, I have known their nature closely and wouldnt like to discuss it here. one of the reasons is you can see on this forum the posts they sent. The other reason is they are always looking to back stab Pakistan. It is only Pakistanis who live in Pakistan can understand the nature of hindus or indians. Then there are other reasons of saving our own culture which is under attack by that wester indo culture. The only thing that differentiates Pakistanis from indians is religion, otherwise there is no difference.

I am sure that you will not agree to these points and will not even try to understand these. but you never know when ALLAH gives anyone hidayat