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Vulture
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Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 157 Location: Pakistan |
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This is most common among us..... most of us talk during Azan...
The Holy Prophet (SAW) said, Stop doing everything during the Azaan, even reading the Quran, the person who talks during the Azaan will not be able to say the Kalima A-Shahada on his/her death bed....
Please pass this message to Muslims...
READ THIS DUAA FOR BETTER LIFE
Allahumma- inni- ala-Zikr-ika-wa Shuk-rika wa husni-ibad-atika.
Qayamat ka ek din 50 hazar saal ka hoga yani, 1 namaz QAZA = 2crore 88 lakhs saal Jahanum mein (namaz qaza karne se itni badi saza hai, toh socho namaz nahi parne se kitna AZAAB hoga) Ye sab logon ko bhejo….agar kisi ko bhi hidaayat mil gayi to qayamat tak sawab milayga...Aur shayad yehi kaam jo ke 1 minute se ziada nahi lega, tumhari maghfirat ka bahana ban jaye AMEEN
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| Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:10 pm |
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loje
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2752 Location: Saudia Arabia |
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jazaka Allah Khair my brother
i really apricate ur posts
its all binifit masha Allah
it shows how mature u r
thanks again my brother insha Allah u will have a loot of thawab
Allah bless u
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kinguhde
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JazakAllah
_________________ Don't compare yourself with anyone in this world. If you do so, you are insulting yourself.
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:45 am |
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ahmet2910
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Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 909
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READ THIS DUAA FOR BETTER LIFE
Allahumma- inni- ala-Zikr-ika-wa Shuk-rika wa husni-ibad-atika |
I am very sorry, i dont want to hurt your feelings
but whensoever i come across situation like this
i cannot stop myself from asking one question
What happens if we make a dua in our mother language
Allah will listen
or must we say it in Arabic
I think Allah listens to everything that one says
language is not important
making Arabic compulsory for contacting Allah is not proper, i think
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:38 pm |
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urfi67
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Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 1541
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well Dua can b in any language but then there r many Duas quoted in The Holy Quran and Ahadees-e-Mubarka. so its much better if one recites those exact words, however one can ask anything from Allah The Almighty in his/her native language as a Dua
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:44 pm |
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ugwaraich
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Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1475
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mashaALLAH, Vulture I am glad and feel proud at the same time that our younger generation thinks the way you do. Keep it up and jazakALLAH 
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:36 pm |
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ugwaraich
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Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1475
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READ THIS DUAA FOR BETTER LIFE
Allahumma- inni- ala-Zikr-ika-wa Shuk-rika wa husni-ibad-atika |
I am very sorry, i dont want to hurt your feelings
but whensoever i come across situation like this
i cannot stop myself from asking one question
What happens if we make a dua in our mother language
Allah will listen
or must we say it in Arabic
I think Allah listens to everything that one says
language is not important
making Arabic compulsory for contacting Allah is not proper, i think |
yes, right ALLAH listens to everyone regardless of languages they speak. But its always considered Afzal to say dua in arabic. Just ask yourself that why people all over the world pray or offer namaz in arabic? its because Prophet Muhammad (SAW) offered it in arabic and its always better and preferable to offer prayers or some duas in arabic(while you understand what you are saying in arabic), but you can ofcourse make duas in any language you want, I hope you have seen our moulana's making duas in urdu after prayers in our masjids in Pakistan so that answers your question
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:39 pm |
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ahmet2910
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READ THIS DUAA FOR BETTER LIFE
Allahumma- inni- ala-Zikr-ika-wa Shuk-rika wa husni-ibad-atika |
I am very sorry, i dont want to hurt your feelings
but whensoever i come across situation like this
i cannot stop myself from asking one question
What happens if we make a dua in our mother language
Allah will listen
or must we say it in Arabic
I think Allah listens to everything that one says
language is not important
making Arabic compulsory for contacting Allah is not proper, i think |
yes, right ALLAH listens to everyone regardless of languages they speak. But its always considered Afzal to say dua in arabic. Just ask yourself that why people all over the world pray or offer namaz in arabic? its because Prophet Muhammad (SAW) offered it in arabic and its always better and preferable to offer prayers or some duas in arabic(while you understand what you are saying in arabic), but you can ofcourse make duas in any language you want, I hope you have seen our moulana's making duas in urdu after prayers in our masjids in Pakistan so that answers your question |
[PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTAND ME
I feel that Arabic language has got no superiority over any other language. Languages too are the same as
all human are the same
Quran was sent by God in ARabic because the language of the people of that area was Arabic.
Just assume, if Allah had sent the Holy Profhit and the Quran in Denmark, i dont think that it would still be in Arabic, it would be in the Danish language.
OK Quran was sent in Arabic, so to save it in Arabic, is one argument that i accept
But all those things, that are not in Quran, but came to us from the Arabic speakers,
should not be made compulsory to the non arabic speaking muslims.
To popularise Islam, i think the monopoly of Arabic language over Islam, should be reduced
so the muslims world over should know that Islam is not just for the Arabic speaking people.
Quran and Islam is for all human beings, irrespect of the fact that they speak or know arabic or not.
Language must not be a barrier between a human being and God
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:13 pm |
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ugwaraich
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READ THIS DUAA FOR BETTER LIFE
Allahumma- inni- ala-Zikr-ika-wa Shuk-rika wa husni-ibad-atika |
I am very sorry, i dont want to hurt your feelings
but whensoever i come across situation like this
i cannot stop myself from asking one question
What happens if we make a dua in our mother language
Allah will listen
or must we say it in Arabic
I think Allah listens to everything that one says
language is not important
making Arabic compulsory for contacting Allah is not proper, i think |
yes, right ALLAH listens to everyone regardless of languages they speak. But its always considered Afzal to say dua in arabic. Just ask yourself that why people all over the world pray or offer namaz in arabic? its because Prophet Muhammad (SAW) offered it in arabic and its always better and preferable to offer prayers or some duas in arabic(while you understand what you are saying in arabic), but you can ofcourse make duas in any language you want, I hope you have seen our moulana's making duas in urdu after prayers in our masjids in Pakistan so that answers your question |
[PLEASE DONT MISUNDERSTAND ME
I feel that Arabic language has got no superiority over any other language. Languages too are the same as
all human are the same
Quran was sent by God in ARabic because the language of the people of that area was Arabic.
Just assume, if Allah had sent the Holy Profhit and the Quran in Denmark, i dont think that it would still be in Arabic, it would be in the Danish language.
OK Quran was sent in Arabic, so to save it in Arabic, is one argument that i accept
But all those things, that are not in Quran, but came to us from the Arabic speakers,
should not be made compulsory to the non arabic speaking muslims.
To popularise Islam, i think the monopoly of Arabic language over Islam, should be reduced
so the muslims world over should know that Islam is not just for the Arabic speaking people.
Quran and Islam is for all human beings, irrespect of the fact that they speak or know arabic or not.
Language must not be a barrier between a human being and God |
yes you are right, for rest of your arguments read my post again and try to know the difference between the words "Compulsory" (what you quoted for things other than Quran e.g. duas) and "Afzal" (what I quoted for duas etc.) no one says offering duas in arabic is compulsory, its just afzal to do so.
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:24 pm |
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ahmet2910
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I agree
but a common muslim does not know the difference between Afzal and compulsory
for him what his maulvi says is correct and compulsory
Here in this forum i always discuss things from the point of view of a common man on the road,
i never discuss here anything from the point of view of learned scholars
When you tell its Afzal, i will again ask why is it Afzal
I think again your answer will be because it is sunnet
but again i will say that anything said by the Rasool Allah in arabic
is because he spoke Arabic
and so on and on
I think this war of arguments would not end like that
so i prefer to finish it here,
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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:35 pm |
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loje
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Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2752 Location: Saudia Arabia |
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Why Allah has sent down the Koran in Arabic??
Sensation on suspicion of the Holy Quran is: If he Koran has sent to all mankind, why God revealed it in Arabic,not in other languge ????
the answer is : its clear that Quraan is like other holy books was revealed to be the language of living languages spoken by people age go
and the Arabic language was one of the most important of these languages.
and its clear also if Allah sent down the holy Quraan in other languge it will be the same suspicion and qustions Why Allah sent it in this languge ???
(قال الله عَزَّ و جَلَّ : ﴿ وَلَوْ جَعَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا أَعْجَمِيًّا لَّقَالُوا لَوْلَا فُصِّلَتْ آيَاتُهُ أَأَعْجَمِيٌّ وَعَرَبِيٌّ قُلْ هُوَ لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا هُدًى وَشِفَاء وَالَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ فِي آذَانِهِمْ وَقْرٌ وَهُوَ عَلَيْهِمْ عَمًى أُوْلَئِكَ يُنَادَوْنَ مِن مَّكَانٍ بَعِيدٍ
this is from one side and from other side : that every holy books should be sent into the phrohet's languge in that time
so he can deal with people and make them understand what he want to say and from this logic Quran sent in Arabic cos our prophet was talking in this languge
(قال : ﴿ وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ بِلِسَانِ قَوْمِهِ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ فَيُضِلُّ اللّهُ مَن يَشَاء وَيَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ
but this is not means that islam should be for arab people only
Add to this that we do not doubt that landing the Koran in Arabic without other languages was not spontaneous, but in spesific reasons and its certainly wise
choice from Allah and we should belive in this wise if we know the reasons or not
Add to this that the characteristics of the Arabic language capacity and flexibility of expression and what the advantages in terms of derivation
and the possibility of Arabization of the words, make the choose of this languge is the right choice
and the other side its a languge of many of prophets as ( Hood - Saleh - Shoaieb -
Ismaeel - And Prophet Mohamad ) peace be upon them all
and the languge of prophet Adam (peace be upon him ) in heaven was arabic
and this is the languge of people of heaven and arabic will be thier languge that they talk in it in jannah insha Allah
all of these things support the selection of Arabic language because the language of the Koran.

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| Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:48 pm |
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ahmet2910
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Why Allah has sent down the Koran in Arabic??
Sensation on suspicion of the Holy Quran is: If he Koran has sent to all mankind, why God revealed it in Arabic,not in other languge ????
the answer is : its clear that Quraan is like other holy books was revealed to be the language of living languages spoken by people age go
and the Arabic language was one of the most important of these languages.
and its clear also if Allah sent down the holy Quraan in other languge it will be the same suspicion and qustions Why Allah sent it in this languge ???
(قال الله عَزَّ و جَلَّ : ﴿ وَلَوْ جَعَلْنَاهُ قُرْآنًا أَعْجَمِيًّا لَّقَالُوا لَوْلَا فُصِّلَتْ آيَاتُهُ أَأَعْجَمِيٌّ وَعَرَبِيٌّ قُلْ هُوَ لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا هُدًى وَشِفَاء وَالَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ فِي آذَانِهِمْ وَقْرٌ وَهُوَ عَلَيْهِمْ عَمًى أُوْلَئِكَ يُنَادَوْنَ مِن مَّكَانٍ بَعِيدٍ
this is from one side and from other side : that every holy books should be sent into the phrohet's languge in that time
so he can deal with people and make them understand what he want to say and from this logic Quran sent in Arabic cos our prophet was talking in this languge
(قال : ﴿ وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا مِن رَّسُولٍ إِلاَّ بِلِسَانِ قَوْمِهِ لِيُبَيِّنَ لَهُمْ فَيُضِلُّ اللّهُ مَن يَشَاء وَيَهْدِي مَن يَشَاء وَهُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْحَكِيمُ
but this is not means that islam should be for arab people only
Add to this that we do not doubt that landing the Koran in Arabic without other languages was not spontaneous, but in spesific reasons and its certainly wise
choice from Allah and we should belive in this wise if we know the reasons or not
Add to this that the characteristics of the Arabic language capacity and flexibility of expression and what the advantages in terms of derivation
and the possibility of Arabization of the words, make the choose of this languge is the right choice
and the other side its a languge of many of prophets as ( Hood - Saleh - Shoaieb -
Ismaeel - And Prophet Mohamad ) peace be upon them all
and the languge of prophet Adam (peace be upon him ) in heaven was arabic
and this is the languge of people of heaven and arabic will be thier languge that they talk in it in jannah insha Allah :D
all of these things support the selection of Arabic language because the language of the Koran.
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I HAVE NEVER RAISED THIS QUESTION
EVEN THANKS FOR THIS INFORMATION
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| Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:55 am |
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loje
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I HAVE NEVER RAISED THIS QUESTION
EVEN THANKS FOR THIS INFORMATION |
i put this information for those who thinks about it in this way not becase u mabe raised it or not
but any ways,,,, u welcome 
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| Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:54 pm |
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