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CoolMind
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Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 258
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| Some Question to Muttehda Ulma Council |
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I got mail today

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| Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:56 am |
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s0ul_mate1@yahoo.com
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Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 545 Location: khatmando |
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but bhi ji,koi in se request kare,k apni is narazgi mein
ghareab//innocent awam ko to mat maro....
oar aik islami mulk ko khatam kerne ki sazish
mein hissa to na bano...4 God sake.....
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| Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:52 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
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Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 1660 Location: 55743 idar-oberstein Germany |
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There are reasonable questions asked from Ullamahs council.But We should not forget that "two wrongs doesn,t make one right".We cannot support killing of any innocent humanbeing.I am also sure that those killing innocent people by suicide bombings cannot be Muslims or Pakistanis.Yes there are some insane,brainwashed,manipulated underage people plays in their hands.Because they are in their senses,not knowing about Islamic teaching who arre used in this process.But the main thing is to address the root causes of all this,arresting of the real people & hands behind it.We should also be informed & briefed as a nation that how many culprits they have arrested,who are they & why non of them are publically punished,so that the others learn or get "IBRAT"from it.Why all this cosmetic measures,claiming to be sovereign & bragging about the consequenses for those violating or challenging the sovereignity of Pakistan but still allowing the USA & NATO to attack in Pakistan territory.It is just like a "KHUSRAS" cursing their enemies.Double standards & double morals of these in driving seat is causing all these disasters.We should first hold them responsible for these crimes.
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| Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:06 pm |
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s0ul_mate1@yahoo.com
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Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 545 Location: khatmando |
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Qazi b hi,,,,u knows taht
our responcible persons,knows that who,,
& why they r doing this,,
but they don,t have courrage to stop that
hand...
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| Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:45 pm |
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intipk
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Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 7
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but bhi ji,koi in se request kare,k apni is narazgi mein
ghareab//innocent awam ko to mat maro....
oar aik islami mulk ko khatam kerne ki sazish
mein hissa to na bano...4 God sake..... |
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| Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:06 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
Most Sensible Member


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Qazi b hi,,,,u knows taht
our responcible persons,knows that who,,
& why they r doing this,,
but they don,t have courrage to stop that
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Because all of them(The stakeholders) have their own wested interests to protect.every one is exploiting the situation for his own interests.All are foreign merceneries from rebels till so called polititions.I believe if there is a will,there is always a way to resolve problems.We don,t have a true leadership who is determined to serve the country.What should we expect from these on us imposed socalled rullers,who have no moral courrage & obligations.Due to their corrupt nature,loop holes in their character they are easy to be extort or black mailed.they fullfilling the foreign agendas.They are begging like beggers but for theirselves not for the nation.The nation is any way suffering,they are deprived of their basic rights & are striving hard to meet the ends.More worst cannot happend there4 they should try to come out of their narrow shells,to behave & act like a nation to get rid of these foreign merceneries of different kind including Govt,opposition,socalled religious parties & Talibaans.
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| Thu Oct 16, 2008 4:38 pm |
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p_gal
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Joined: 07 Oct 2008 Posts: 32
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main nay suna hai kay quran main yeh bhi hai (plz correct me if i am wrong) "kisi bhi qoum ko aisay hi leaders miltay hain jiski woh haqdar hoti hai."
yeh tamam sawal bohat valid hain aur unko zaroor pochna bhi chaey magar koi jakay in dehshatgardon say bhi tu poochay kay agar tum logon ko hukumat say koi shikayat bhi hai tu begunah musalmano ko kiyon mar rahay ho.
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| Tue Oct 21, 2008 1:24 am |
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ejays
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Joined: 19 Aug 2008 Posts: 4
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salaam,
The questions and concerned raised in the first post are valid no doubt about it.
But what is doubtful is the reflected intention. By asking these questions in response to fatwas and verdicts by ulma council. Writer is trying to justify the genocide of Pakistani nation through suicidal attacks. What American are doing, killing the innocent Pakistanis so what these suicidal parties are doing again killing the Pakistanis.
American = foreigners + non muslims killing Pakistanis
Suicidal groups= Pakistanis+ muslims Killing Pakistanis
both are inhuman and insane
there is no moral/religious justification to the indiscriminate and blind killing of masses.
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| Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:54 pm |
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tufail_74
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Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 179 Location: Saudi Arabia |
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ejay is 200% right. timing of this email is important.
on one hand, we see all sects joining together to teach people of pakistan to stop favouring these killers and on the other this email is started. this simply means to counter the fatwa.
also writer did not mention by name all the scholars clearing stating "low importance" of each and every scholar.
he seems to be just a anti-peace person and trying to favour the killing by opposing to those who at least speaking against killings.
if the writer can present a single statement by any of the scholar favouring US killing anywhere then he was quite right but he just pointed finger.
also these people think that only in pakistan wrongs things are happening. i am in saudi arabia since 9yrs now. i can say with 100% guarantee we are having much better islam in pakistan than here. this is also tru that still lot more needs to be done in pakistan. but we are always very keen to throw to others like US. why dont we think we ourselves are bad and we should start changing ourselves.
why we forget that The Holy Prophet Muhammad (SAW) first started himself and shown to others about the right way then everybody changed.
we say that all should change to 100% then we shall think to change ourselves.
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| Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:31 am |
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inayat khan qazi
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No rational Muslim can support any extreamism,fanaticsm,racism & killing of not only innocent Muslims but also humanbeing:any thing wrong done on the name of Islam should be loudly rejected & condemned.If in Afghanistan talibaans or Mujahideen are fighting against occupation forces for their survival & freedom is justified because they are invaded.But to kill any innocent humanbeing by anyone calling theirselves Talibaan etc is not only un Islamic & in human.It cannot by any mean can be justified.They are without any doubt Mercenaries of Kuffars of all kind either by paying them or by brainwashing them.If they would have targeted any of the enemy of Islam,Pakistan or their personal one, one could understand but killing of our people ruthlessly is not the work of Muslims rather the followers of devil.In the meantime those in the driving seat of Pakistan are also mercenaries of the west.
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| Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:40 pm |
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djdesi
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What should we expect from these on us imposed socalled rullers,who have no moral courrage & obligations. |
You cannot say that atleast. There was election and the people themselves chose a party, hence they were not IMPOSED, we brought them ourselves.
On the topic:
Throw out all the Afghans from all parts of Pakistan. Check papers and documents who have taken citizenship and I am sure almost all of them will have fake papers. Throw them out to. Close and build a wall on the border with afghanistan. They are an UNTHANKFULL nation. I am sure after doing half of this, my countries 50% problems will be solved.
And from this day on, you can also call me a racist. I hate Afghanistan and Afghanis. Let them die in their own country. Like this atleast my country and people from Sarhad or Pakhtunistan Pakhtoonkhwa or whatever you wanna call it will be safe from their drug money and arms.
Regards,
DJ
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| Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:02 am |
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CoolMind
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[quote="ejays"]
American = foreigners + non muslims killing Pakistanis (All PAkistani Ulmaz are Silent why??????)
Suicidal groups= Pakistanis+ muslims Killing Pakistanis (Ulmaz already given Fatwa abt this matter)
but the Question is where is Insaaf in above 2 point....Are u understand this is Insaaf
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| Fri Oct 24, 2008 9:08 am |
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inayat khan qazi
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What should we expect from these on us imposed socalled rullers,who have no moral courrage & obligations. |
You cannot say that atleast. There was election and the people themselves chose a party, hence they were not IMPOSED, we brought them ourselves.
On the topic:
Throw out all the Afghans from all parts of Pakistan. Check papers and documents who have taken citizenship and I am sure almost all of them will have fake papers. Throw them out to. Close and build a wall on the border with afghanistan. They are an UNTHANKFULL nation. I am sure after doing half of this, my countries 50% problems will be solved.
And from this day on, you can also call me a racist. I hate Afghanistan and Afghanis. Let them die in their own country. Like this atleast my country and people from Sarhad or Pakhtunistan Pakhtoonkhwa or whatever you wanna call it will be safe from their drug money and arms.
I do blame the nation to chose these thuggs but in the mean time we should know about our political system & structure.in which the feudal,other rich & influential people exploit with different methods the voters.Most of the time specially in ruller areas the people are forced,bought or missused due to the illitracy & not having political awareness.The total system is so corrupt that it doesn,t allow the capable & competant people to be chosen as representatives.Even the socalled religious parties exploit the majority of the people on the name of their interpreted Islam for their own wested interest.Later on play the role of a pressure groups (Not for the benefit of the Masses) to extort & black mail the majority party to have their share or piece of cake.I do agree with you to send back all the Afghanis back & sealing off the border.If they really want they know who have false passports & identifications.Our establishment is profitting from these people bribes.
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| Fri Oct 24, 2008 8:55 pm |
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