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ok thnx for tht...but we r not docs so most of them get killed...so isn't tht sin???

and one more can u plzz expand a bit more on genetic engineering?? like does this profession clash with religion and are the things which are done in genetic engineering a sin???
here is bit abtt genetic engineering
Human genetic engineering is the genetic engineering of humans by modifying the genotype of the unborn individual to control what traits it will possess when born.Humans do not need gene therapy to survive, though it may prove helpful to treat certain diseases. Special gene modification research has been carried out on groups such as the 'bubble children' - those whose immune systems do not protect them from the bacteria and irritants all around them.

genetic engineers dont do abortions its ganacolgists...
they just find new and better ways of fighting disease...usually when a baby is not bron...so like if the baby have defects they try to fix it before the birth and sometimes change dna information...like eye color or probly any defects or disease tht is carried through genes...
they also sometime change the sex of a human....these r like general things they do...

Sorrry for being a pain and asking too much questions... its just tht i want to take tht feild so just want to make sure...

Anni Ali wrote:

ok thnx for tht...but we r not docs so most of them get killed...so isn't tht sin???

and one more can u plzz expand a bit more on genetic engineering?? like does this profession clash with religion and are the things which are done in genetic engineering a sin???
here is bit abtt genetic engineering
Human genetic engineering is the genetic engineering of humans by modifying the genotype of the unborn individual to control what traits it will possess when born.Humans do not need gene therapy to survive, though it may prove helpful to treat certain diseases. Special gene modification research has been carried out on groups such as the 'bubble children' - those whose immune systems do not protect them from the bacteria and irritants all around them.

genetic engineers dont do abortions its ganacolgists...
they just find new and better ways of fighting disease...usually when a baby is not bron...so like if the baby have defects they try to fix it before the birth and sometimes change dna information...like eye color or probly any defects or disease tht is carried through genes...
they also sometime change the sex of a human....these r like general things they do...

Sorrry for being a pain and asking too much questions... its just tht i want to take tht feild so just want to make sure...

Killing a pig for study purposes is not a sin.

Let me reiterate myself, the comment I had already made on genetic engineering was after having a considerable knowledge of it, i-e I knew the things that you have stated and would say again;

Changing the sex of the foetus is not allowed in Islam, not even in Christianity. I believe main reason is that when everyone start using this tool for having only baby boys or only baby girls there will be an unbalanced society with lots of problems; just think if you are a girl and you have all girls around you or all boys in a society, what do you think would happen? a point will come that in a society there will be no girl or no boy which may lead them to extinction, i-e no more human beings because you need both males and females to reproduce. So, it should be kept natural. Genetic engineering sometimes seem to challenge the divinity. When you are changing the sex/eye color/ hair color of the foetus which is utterly unnecessary because it doesnt cure any disease(having a brown/ black eye color is not a disease or being a boy or girl is not a disease) it means you are trying to alter the nature or you are trying to alter ALLAH's decision; which is absolutely wrong.

As I said earlier that only if the foetus has a deadly disease that might harm the newborn's life or her mothers life then only in that case yo umight be allowed to apply genetic engineering tools (I am not too sure about this just this is how I think it should be; will let you know through a valid reference).

And certainly cloning and changing DNA are not allowed ( they are only allowed in case of CRITICAL Diseases) a big NO otherwise.

And dont worry I appreciate your contribution to this topic and your enquiring mind.

oh ok thnx for the info...
so parctically its allowed unless u do cloning or chnage DNA info...

and one more thing i have heard tht there r few things god said no one except him will know like...day of judgment..
the sex of fetus and weather and few others i dont remember...but now days u see tht scientist can perdict weather and u can also know the sex of the fetus before the birth...so is tht wut heard ture or worng?? or if ture than how come scientist can do it these days???

thnx for tht...actually i do ask too many q's and keep asking them until i am satisfied so srry...

In reality, those asking questions are doing so is not becuase they are confused or attempting to learn about Islam, it is just a way to put down Islam and mock at it. No answer or response will be enough, those were not really questions to be answered lol

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Anni Ali wrote:

oh ok thnx for the info...
so parctically its allowed unless u do cloning or chnage DNA info...

and one more thing i have heard tht there r few things god said no one except him will know like...day of judgment..
the sex of fetus and weather and few others i dont remember...but now days u see tht scientist can perdict weather and u can also know the sex of the fetus before the birth...so is tht wut heard ture or worng?? or if ture than how come scientist can do it these days???

thnx for tht...actually i do ask too many q's and keep asking them until i am satisfied so srry...

Anni, its very difficult to comment on this without knowing the reference of Quranic verse that you are talking about where God says that no one except Him will know day of judgement/sex of foetus and weather. I have never in my all life come across such a verse. Please dont believe what atheists (most of the canadians/people in west) say about Islam; if someone says such things you should verify first. I will try to look for a Quranic verse which contains this stuff but in my knowledge I dont think there is any. If you know the reference please pass it onto me.

	mushytail wrote:
	In reality, those asking questions are doing so is not becuase they are confused or attempting to learn about Islam, it is just a way to put down Islam and mock at it. No answer or response will be enough, those were not really questions to be answered lol Priya

Keeping silent would do no favour to prove the purity or truthfulness of Islam; most people would in fact get the impression that we are ignoring it because we are not right in our teachings or we have doubts over Islamic principles which is atleast not the case with us. I do not worry about what kind of questions people bring over here, as far as we are answering them satisfactorily I am ok with it and I think everyone should participate here to answer those questions.

And I do understand your point of view as well, but in my opinion we should reply what Islam has to say that can keep them quiet and more we talk about it more people would know about the glory and righteousness of Islam.

Do respond to them but with logic and calm tone and perhaps with a different emphasis given the intentions behind those questions.

There is a reason same questions are asked over & over - the answers being provided so far are not very logical and comprehensible. So far it seems no new answers are provided - that is something 'you' should work on.

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loje wrote:

yes i have ceriuos to know about hindu " religion " too really with no misunderstanding ok ?? please

if some hindu can answer me

1-there is alot of gods in your religion ?? why is that ??? dont you think that one god is enaugh ????

REPLY: No, each aspect of life has its own source of power - Fire, Peace, Water etc etc This is very logical as in every company you will find people have their own jobs to do. Just one person doing all work, wearing different hats is at minimum an obstacle.

2- you made your god in your home sometimes with simple materials right ????

REPLY: Yes, representations may be made with any materials. At least we do that, as opposed to gazing in one direction using compass.

and even that you still belive that this " what you make will make's you better in your life and if you are in truble he will rescue and if you are sick he will Quench you
and dont you forget that """" YOU THE ONE WHO created IT OR LETS SAID HUMAN LIKE YOU """

REPLY: The material replica is never meant to rescue anyone, that will be illogical. It is just a representation to remind one of the power of god.

3-dont you think that this scatch that you make it should worship you "Astagferu Allah "
becase you the one who created it

REPLY: Fundamentally, no one is worshipping the material in front but using it as a symbol to remind one of divine power which is to be worshipped. Like Tasbih would remind you of holy words to be said and Ja-namaz is a holy patch to carry around for workshipping. Ja-namaz frequently has a picture of minarets and holy places for you , just as a reminder to, you are not really worshipping the pictures.

4-dont you think the god should has Description of creation??????

REPLY: Sorry, I did not understand the question. Gods in many forms created all that we believe is real to sight and touch.

5-and why some people pray to elefent or mouse or cow ????? they dont have brains (( cos as we know animals dont have brains )) why they Worshiping them

REPLY: Not sure about Mouse but Cow understandably is a holy creature in all ancient times. One cow provide source of milk, cheese, and dung to burn in stove to cook food. Hence respected as such. There are other reasons and we can discuss those later.

6- why you so many belives ????

REPLY: I think you might be asking why so many gods, for answer to that see (1)

7- and this is more importent why if some one come's and say's i saw our god and he tolled me to do this or anything they belive him ???????

REPLY: Directions from divine in sleep or while high is a common thing to all religion. Just like Fatwa's in Islam, there are those who claim they have some kind of connection to the divine.

8- why they beleive some Astrology PEOPLE who tell's you you cant married on this day or you will be die ?????

REPLY: It is called superstition and mixed with religious doctrine. Some days are considered 'holier' than the others. E.g. Friday prayers or weddings to be held on Friday for 'extra blessing' ... Christians have Sundays and so and on

9- and why you bleive some one tolled you about your future and in the same time he cant tell's you about his own future

REPLY: This is again common with people holding a religion or not, no wonder 800-PSYC lines make money. Who knows, it is a matter of personal belief.

10- and what is the idea of climing 100 or i dont know how many stairs to arrived to the mander that place that it should be avalable to every one to come and pray what old people will do in that case ???? they will go to hill if they cant clime that stairs ??? yeah you will tell me that they have it in thier home "" from thier creation ofcarse ""
is that means that is not nesseccry to go to mander if you have this in your own home????

REPLY: Like most religion, the gods are assumed to be 'up there', that is up towards the sky, the higher the mandar, the 'closer' relatively it is to the gods. One could ask why minarets of mosques are so high? No reason, just looks good and impressive too Smile

11- about woman why they shouldnt get married after their husbends die??? and why she should wear white dress all the time

REPLY: To show their love and devotion to their husbands, obedient wife you know, even if you die, I will be only yours Smile

12- why should woman put this as you call it """ sendor "" and as far as i know that its from cow's ....... you know

REPLY: I don't know, I have never used it, I guess depends how holy one considers the cow to be.

13- why should she throw rice before she get enter to her house for the first time ???

REPLY: This is after marraige when bride enters the house for the first time, it is a ritual to show she brings blessings in form of food in the house.

14-why the women should fast for thier husbends until they remember them and come to the house to feed her
he can stay in the house in that day if he really love her
is that respect for woman in your thinknig ????

REPLY: Shows strong relationship, love and scarifice for their husband. Back to obedient wife syndrome. If you don't feed her she could die for her love to you.

15- i have seen in indian movies that some Tribes burn thier dughters after thier husbends die and before that they forced them to marry from some one who is in thier father's age ?????

REPLY: I don't think they show that in the movies, still practiced, it is rare though. In a society like ours, th value of woman's life who is alone and young with no one to protect her is very difficult. She prefers to die with her husband rather than be sold in slavery or forced into rapes or prostitution. I think once the society is able to provide more protection to women, this would not be an issue.

16- why you burn the die people ???? and is that true what you belive in ????

REPLY: Thats cremation ceremony. It is based upon religious philosophy that body is immaterial and only soul matters. Most other societies (western) also burn their dead.

17- and what about "" HOLLY "" why you make this day ??? and what is benifit from it ????

REPLY: It is a religious fun festival of colors. I'm not sure what you question is, you don't want any festivals in religion or ?

18- and why your god is has half elefent and half human and has so many hands ??????

REPLY: Bigger, better and powerful version of a human.

19- its not in my mind right now but iwill ask about it later cos i have so many qustions about your """ RELIGION """ Wink

REPLY: Sure ask away, I may not have all the answers, as I'm not that religious of a person but sure I will answer as much as I can.

but please dont mind from my qustions at all cos i want to know thats it ok ?? Rolling Eyes

Of course

btw, you could also search on the net or visit your local mandar.

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ugwaraich wrote:

Anni Ali wrote:

oh ok thnx for the info...
so parctically its allowed unless u do cloning or chnage DNA info...

and one more thing i have heard tht there r few things god said no one except him will know like...day of judgment..
the sex of fetus and weather and few others i dont remember...but now days u see tht scientist can perdict weather and u can also know the sex of the fetus before the birth...so is tht wut heard ture or worng?? or if ture than how come scientist can do it these days???

thnx for tht...actually i do ask too many q's and keep asking them until i am satisfied so srry...

Anni, its very difficult to comment on this without knowing the reference of Quranic verse that you are talking about where God says that no one except Him will know day of judgement/sex of foetus and weather. I have never in my all life come across such a verse. Please dont believe what atheists (most of the canadians/people in west) say about Islam; if someone says such things you should verify first. I will try to look for a Quranic verse which contains this stuff but in my knowledge I dont think there is any. If you know the reference please pass it onto me.

actually i really dont know the verse...actually i asked my mom and she said she will look for the verse and then i will let u know...

	mushytail wrote:
	In reality, those asking questions are doing so is not becuase they are confused or attempting to learn about Islam, it is just a way to put down Islam and mock at it. No answer or response will be enough, those were not really questions to be answered lol Priya

srry but thts not wut i think...autcally by asking these q's and getting more clear my trust on my religion increase...as it has answers regarding to all aspect of life...its better to ask then ignor....if i dont aks i would stay confuse all my life so i think its better to ask...cus someone who ask is a stupid for 2 sec but someone who dosen't is a stupid for all their life...srry but thts how i think...

	mushytail wrote:
	Do respond to them but with logic and calm tone and perhaps with a different emphasis given the intentions behind those questions. There is a reason same questions are asked over & over - the answers being provided so far are not very logical and comprehensible. So far it seems no new answers are provided - that is something 'you' should work on. Priya

if you think the answers being provided are not logical or comprehensible, then go on get yourself involved in this discussion (this is what I want to see more people getting involved in healthy discussions) as no one is putting checks on you. I would like to know your logical and comprehensible ideology about Islam. Also I would like to know the illogical and incomprehensible answers that I gave so far in this thread.

I think I have been calm all through the course of this thread, but anyways I will still try to answer people in my full capacity.

ugwaraich wrote:

	mushytail wrote:
	Do respond to them but with logic and calm tone and perhaps with a different emphasis given the intentions behind those questions. There is a reason same questions are asked over & over - the answers being provided so far are not very logical and comprehensible. So far it seems no new answers are provided - that is something 'you' should work on. Priya

if you think the answers being provided are not logical or comprehensible, then go on get yourself involved in this discussion (this is what I want to see more people getting involved in healthy discussions) as no one is putting checks on you. I would like to know your logical and comprehensible ideology about Islam. Also I would like to know the illogical and incomprehensible answers that I gave so far in this thread.

I think I have been calm all through the course of this thread, but anyways I will still try to answer people in my full capacity.

Thank you and that is exactly I will do IF I had a real question to ask about Islam. I'm not the one who is attempting to mock Islam under the guise of 'asking questions' and then making fun of those who respond. Although one of the readers here did ask questions about Hindism for mocking without instigation and surprisingly no one objected to that.

At least be nice to those who are a part of your community/country.

Priya Das
Hindu

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	mushytail wrote:
	Of course btw, you could also search on the net or visit your local mandar. Priya

OH i know that Wink

but i want specefic answers for these specefic qustions

btw:

dont you know how to answer these qustions??? Rolling Eyes

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mushytail wrote:

ugwaraich wrote:

	mushytail wrote:
	Do respond to them but with logic and calm tone and perhaps with a different emphasis given the intentions behind those questions. There is a reason same questions are asked over & over - the answers being provided so far are not very logical and comprehensible. So far it seems no new answers are provided - that is something 'you' should work on. Priya

if you think the answers being provided are not logical or comprehensible, then go on get yourself involved in this discussion (this is what I want to see more people getting involved in healthy discussions) as no one is putting checks on you. I would like to know your logical and comprehensible ideology about Islam. Also I would like to know the illogical and incomprehensible answers that I gave so far in this thread.

I think I have been calm all through the course of this thread, but anyways I will still try to answer people in my full capacity.

Thank you and that is exactly I will do IF I had a real question to ask about Islam. I'm not the one who is attempting to mock Islam under the guise of 'asking questions' and then making fun of those who respond. Although one of the readers here did ask questions about Hindism for mocking without instigation and surprisingly no one objected to that.

At least be nice to those who are a part of your community/country.

Priya Das
Hindu

I appreciate that.

I am glad to know that you are a Hindu.
Secondly, this section is open to everyone, anyone can ask or answer any kind of questions within reasonable limits. There has been some offensive questions asked about Islam in the past on this forum and that everyone can actually see that they were meant to bash Islam, but those questions are still there and no one deleted/edited them and in fact they were being answered reasonably.
If someone comes up similar kind of questions about other religions i-e Christianity/Judaism/Hinduism then its absolutely in their right to ask such questions, if someone wants to reply to those questions thats absolutely ok; and if not then its ok as well. So, these kinds of questions might be a response to those offensive questions raised about Islam and for those people who simply dont want to accept the truth or atleast believe that the answers to those questions are illogical or incomprehensible then there must be some problem with their logic or reasoning power or otherwise they are simply arrogants and trying to be ignorants not to accept the truth just because they are born in a family which is not muslim?

Another thing I would say is that "one of the raeders" who sent that message who you think is trying to mock down hinduism have not received any response yet from anyone, which means that; that reader is not trying to make fun of those who respond. That was perhaps the first question about any other religion on this thread and there has been no answer to it yet.

But anyways, you are entitled to say in defence whatever you want to about hinduism, and if you dont want to then no problem.

ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM
THANKS FOR WRITTING ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IN THE PRESNET TIME IT IS A VERY BURNNING ISSUE AND MUSLIMS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS THING. AND THEY NEED TO TELL THE NON MUSLIMS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE THE CONFUSIONS IN THE MINDS OF NON-MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD. SO BROTHER KEEP IT UP.

GOD BLESS YOU.

BEST REGARDS

A HAMEED

mushytail wrote:

loje wrote:

yes i have ceriuos to know about hindu " religion " too really with no misunderstanding ok ?? please

if some hindu can answer me

1-there is alot of gods in your religion ?? why is that ??? dont you think that one god is enaugh ????

REPLY: No, each aspect of life has its own source of power - Fire, Peace, Water etc etc This is very logical as in every company you will find people have their own jobs to do. Just one person doing all work, wearing different hats is at minimum an obstacle.

REPLY : who made those sources of power (( water fire peace etc etc )) ????Allah ofcarse

2- you made your god in your home sometimes with simple materials right ????

REPLY: Yes, representations may be made with any materials. At least we do that, as opposed to gazing in one direction using compass.

REPLY : for your informations we do that only for praying in the desert when we dont know the direction of (( Alqebla )) becase Allah in every where dear and we have reasons that we follow the direction of (( alqebla )) the simple reason that is Allah tolled us to do and we should follow anything Allah tolled us to do without asking cos its the right but that doesnt preclude us to know which would benefit for the self-Reassuring ,the reason that Unifying the goal for Muslims And unify the hearts and unify ranks and unify the word and imagine if this was not exist (( the duty of bieng in the same direction when we want to pray ))) how the people will be some one pray to this direction and the other will pray to that direction ,This calls for disharmony and to the Diaspora not to unite ranks but the fact that all Muslims in any location of the land in any of the mosques mosques of the God - the Almighty - which describe where prayed shoulder to shoulder heading toward him and there is no doubt that one of the reasons and the most important reasons to this Unification for hearts and unite ranks and raising the word.

and even that you still belive that this " what you make will make's you better in your life and if you are in truble he will rescue and if you are sick he will Quench you
and dont you forget that """" YOU THE ONE WHO created IT OR LETS SAID HUMAN LIKE YOU """

REPLY: The material replica is never meant to rescue anyone, that will be illogical. It is just a representation to remind one of the power of god.

REPLY : dont you remind the power of god unless you put a symble of these materials ok for example who praying to the sun they belive that the sun is the god but we all know that the god should not be dissappered in any time right??? i think that you belive that the god (( Astagferu Allah ))) has the same picture that u made right??

3-dont you think that this scatch that you make it should worship you "Astagferu Allah "
becase you the one who created it

REPLY: Fundamentally, no one is worshipping the material in front but using it as a symbol to remind one of divine power which is to be worshipped. Like Tasbih would remind you of holy words to be said and Ja-namaz is a holy patch to carry around for workshipping. Ja-namaz frequently has a picture of minarets and holy places for you , just as a reminder to, you are not really worshipping the pictures.

REPLY : as i said We do not forget our worship

and do not need to bear the image of mosques and minartes to remind us of worship which are mainly in our minds and our souls

Secondly, who told you about carrying pictures of mosques and minarets ???
These false allegations want to distort the image of Islam only

we do tasbih becase we want go to heaven and have ((( Ajr ))) from Allah and this tasbih

We didnt put it our prophet (( mohamad )), peace be upon him the Messenger of Allah

Was put it after the guidance of Allah

4-dont you think the god should has Description of creation??????

REPLY: Sorry, I did not understand the question. Gods in many forms created all that we believe is real to sight and touch.

REPLY : i think my qustion is consept and clear

can the fire creates you??or the cow or the monkey or the mouse ?????

5-and why some people pray to elefent or mouse or cow ????? they dont have brains (( cos as we know animals dont have brains )) why they Worshiping them

REPLY: Not sure about Mouse but Cow understandably is a holy creature in all ancient times. One cow provide source of milk, cheese, and dung to burn in stove to cook food. Hence respected as such. There are other reasons and we can discuss those later.

REPLY : who created this cow????? and if your thinking is right and the cow is the god ((( astagferu Allah ))) the god never die right??? but the cow die god never sick but the cow become sick some time dont you heard about cows madness ???

6- why you so many belives ????

REPLY: I think you might be asking why so many gods, for answer to that see (1)

REPLY : yes i meant that and still Unconvinced Rolling Eyes

7- and this is more importent why if some one come's and say's i saw our god and he tolled me to do this or anything they belive him ???????

REPLY: Directions from divine in sleep or while high is a common thing to all religion. Just like Fatwa's in Islam, there are those who claim they have some kind of connection to the divine.

REPLY : oh you seems like you have wrong ideas dear Wink

the fatwa's that you said is about something Reasonable and It is not superstitions Wink

These fatwas are issued after the studies of many scholars who are studying religious books and they studying all what Allah's and his prophet put for the repose and good for people in this life and the Hereafter

8- why they beleive some Astrology PEOPLE who tell's you you cant married on this day or you will be die ?????

REPLY: It is called superstition and mixed with religious doctrine. Some days are considered 'holier' than the others. E.g. Friday prayers or weddings to be held on Friday for 'extra blessing' ... Christians have Sundays and so and on

REPLY : oh we have one day but what about you every couple have deffrent day ?? how come???? and on what he depends ????? and we have this day cos this day that (( Adam )) عليه السلام created and the day that he intered the heaven and the day he come out from the heaven and the day that will be the Day of Resurrection we have reasons and strong ones how about you ???((( and by the way we doesnt celebrate in this day or anything like that but we do more worship to Allah from praying , dua , more than other day nothing heresy and not for weddings?? Rolling Eyes

we get "" extra blessings "" just when we pray more to Allah ))))

9- and why you bleive some one tolled you about your future and in the same time he cant tell's you about his own future

REPLY: This is again common with people holding a religion or not, no wonder 800-PSYC lines make money. Who knows, it is a matter of personal belief.

REPLY : idont get you in (( 800 - PSYC lines ))) Confused

10- and what is the idea of climing 100 or i dont know how many stairs to arrived to the mander that place that it should be avalable to every one to come and pray what old people will do in that case ???? they will go to hill if they cant clime that stairs ??? yeah you will tell me that they have it in thier home "" from thier creation ofcarse ""
is that means that is not nesseccry to go to mander if you have this in your own home????

REPLY: Like most religion, the gods are assumed to be 'up there', that is up towards the sky, the higher the mandar, the 'closer' relatively it is to the gods. One could ask why minarets of mosques are so high? No reason, just looks good and impressive too Smile

REPLY: but you belive in cows , monkeys , mouses and all these are here in the earth with us Cool

no dear we do some minartes high to make deffrent between masjids and churchs thats why .
not to impress any one like what you do Wink

and dont tell me that your manders is looks good it looks scary sorry for that

11- about woman why they shouldnt get married after their husbends die??? and why she should wear white dress all the time

REPLY: To show their love and devotion to their husbands, obedient wife you know, even if you die, I will be only yours Smile

REPLY : do you agree with this if u get married and your husbend die you will do the same ?? do you agree with that in agood spirit ?? infront of that the men can get married after his wife's die is that that fair to you ?? i want your personal opinion on that and be logical Wink

12- why should woman put this as you call it """ sendor "" and as far as i know that its from cow's ....... you know

REPLY: I don't know, I have never used it, I guess depends how holy one considers the cow to be.

REPLY : oh you mean that there is people considers that cow is holy and some dont ??

and why you didnt used it before dont you belive on that or what??

13- why should she throw rice before she get enter to her house for the first time ???

REPLY: This is after marraige when bride enters the house for the first time, it is a ritual to show she brings blessings in form of food in the house.

REPLY : and why she cant throw any kind of food instead of rice ????????becase all kind of food is blessing from God

and if this woman after get married have big problems with her husbends then what ?? is she still brings blessings to the house !!! Wink

14-why the women should fast for thier husbends until they remember them and come to the house to feed her
he can stay in the house in that day if he really love her
is that respect for woman in your thinknig ????

REPLY: Shows strong relationship, love and scarifice for their husband. Back to obedient wife syndrome. If you don't feed her she could die for her love to you.

REPLY : sorry my friend but your ""religion"" is depends on showing ,nothing else i can show my husbend love and scarifice without all these harmfull doings
and ur religion all about how the woman can love and Satisfies the man where is the right of woman in your religion???

15- i have seen in indian movies that some Tribes burn thier dughters after thier husbends die and before that they forced them to marry from some one who is in thier father's age ?????

REPLY: I don't think they show that in the movies, still practiced, it is rare though. In a society like ours, th value of woman's life who is alone and young with no one to protect her is very difficult. She prefers to die with her husband rather than be sold in slavery or forced into rapes or prostitution. I think once the society is able to provide more protection to women, this would not be an issue.

REPLY : in all socities the good woman can protect her self from any prostitution , in your case she Surrendered to these threats and if she doesnt know what she should do she kill's her self what a surrender !!!!and what if her husbend was abused to her should she kill her self then

16- why you burn the die people ???? and is that true what you belive in ????

REPLY: Thats cremation ceremony. It is based upon religious philosophy that body is immaterial and only soul matters. Most other societies (western) also burn their dead.

REPLY : and i asked why ????

17- and what about "" HOLLY "" why you make this day ??? and what is benifit from it ????

REPLY: It is a religious fun festival of colors. I'm not sure what you question is, you don't want any festivals in religion or ?of this festival ???? becase all festifal has a reason right??

REPLY : i meant what is this means ??? to make colors and throw it in each other ???? what is the idea

18- and why your god is has half elefent and half human and has so many hands ??????

REPLY: Bigger, better and powerful version of a human.

REPLY : why you didnt make it tiger or lion for example cos we all know that the tiger and lion is more stronger than elefents???? Wink

(( Astagferu Allah))

19- its not in my mind right now but iwill ask about it later cos i have so many qustions about your """ RELIGION """ Wink

REPLY: Sure ask away, I may not have all the answers, as I'm not that religious of a person but sure I will answer as much as I can.

REPLY : Thanks Alot Wink

and please dont take my desscions as that i want make laugh or some thing but i have lots of qustions about ur bleives

but please dont mind from my qustions at all cos i want to know thats it ok ?? Rolling Eyes

Of course

btw, you could also search on the net or visit your local mandar.

Priya

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nice discussion,,,welldone all

	imhameed78 wrote:
	ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM THANKS FOR WRITTING ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IN THE PRESNET TIME IT IS A VERY BURNNING ISSUE AND MUSLIMS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS THING. AND THEY NEED TO TELL THE NON MUSLIMS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE THE CONFUSIONS IN THE MINDS OF NON-MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD. SO BROTHER KEEP IT UP. GOD BLESS YOU. BEST REGARDS A HAMEED

You are still missing my point. There is really no confusion and no one is really not asking questions to 'learn' about Islam with possible thinking of converting. That is surely not the case.

The only reason the questions are asked about Islam is to mock it for entertainment. The other thing is that Muslims have not been able to come up with logical answers, so its free fun for those asking questions.

Priya

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mushytail wrote:

	imhameed78 wrote:
	ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM THANKS FOR WRITTING ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IN THE PRESNET TIME IT IS A VERY BURNNING ISSUE AND MUSLIMS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS THING. AND THEY NEED TO TELL THE NON MUSLIMS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE THE CONFUSIONS IN THE MINDS OF NON-MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD. SO BROTHER KEEP IT UP. GOD BLESS YOU. BEST REGARDS A HAMEED

You are still missing my point. There is really no confusion and no one is really not asking questions to 'learn' about Islam with possible thinking of converting. That is surely not the case.

The only reason the questions are asked about Islam is to mock it for entertainment. The other thing is that Muslims have not been able to come up with logical answers, so its free fun for those asking questions.
Priya

and how about you dear can you give us logical answers about your " religion " Wink

i think you cant Cool

but let me tell you somthing my friend please read it carfully

i had alot of qustions more than the above but i dont want to ask it cos i still unconvinsed about the above

and i will unconvinsed for ever cos you pray to animals and those animals doesnt has abrain how can you pray to them its illogical and you pray to scatchs you made it by your own is that convinsed to you
i geuss not

dear they are ( animals-sun-fire ,,,etc)
all are creatures and they have one who created it that means ALLAH

DONT YOU RELIESE THAT ELEFENTS AND MONKEYS AND DONKEYS ARE MADE BY ALLAH WHO MADE IT FOR US ?????? WHO YOU SHOULD PRAY TO ((((Creatures or Creator of the creatures)))

you said before that muslims in india are the lowest of the lowest class there

sorry for tell you that but

i think the ( hindu ) are the lowest of the lowest people that have brain in this world mabe they are not in the list even

look my friend i know that you have wrong ideas about islam i recommend you to read more books that made by real muslims to know about islam instead of talking without knowing the real islam is.
and really my friend i want the best for you belive me cos we all have the same level of brain if we use it in the right way to know what is the deffrent between logical and illogical .
and mabe you know that what you belive in is not true but you cant Recognized by

becase you think that your parents and grand parents doesnt be wrong ever .
you have the chance to change your belives and rescue your parents from all this and tell them about real religion
really i care about you even idont know you but what our religion tought us that we should care about other people and show them the good way before its too late

i did what i have to do.

if you belive what i said or not its your choice now and your own sorrow

i want you to be relax in your life and after that why you cant reilize the truth that your belives are just a Superstitions

just an advice to you :

you should read real books about islam and if you want me to name some books then

i will with my pleasure

beware about some books cos there is alots of False allegations

about islam and those claiming that they are muslims by doing some things wrong and claims that this is the real islam

i wish you all the best in your life and after Wink

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loje,,,nice work,,,but mushy i think u just listen to Dr Zakir Naik particularly on Islam and Hinduism,,,it will help u clear many doubts

mushytail wrote:

	imhameed78 wrote:
	ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM THANKS FOR WRITTING ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IN THE PRESNET TIME IT IS A VERY BURNNING ISSUE AND MUSLIMS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS THING. AND THEY NEED TO TELL THE NON MUSLIMS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE THE CONFUSIONS IN THE MINDS OF NON-MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD. SO BROTHER KEEP IT UP. GOD BLESS YOU. BEST REGARDS A HAMEED

You are still missing my point. There is really no confusion and no one is really not asking questions to 'learn' about Islam with possible thinking of converting. That is surely not the case.

The only reason the questions are asked about Islam is to mock it for entertainment. The other thing is that Muslims have not been able to come up with logical answers, so its free fun for those asking questions.

Priya

We are not here to possibly convert someone, although if it happens then we will be very fortunate to become the source of conversion. We are here to tell the realities about Islam to those who dont know about Islam at all, or even for those who know the wrong picture of Islam.
This section is for those whose only source of information is media (possibly yourself) media doesnt cover facts, especially these days. So our effort is just to enlighten and spread the truth about Islam to everyone, to those who are living in the darkness and know nothing about Islam and those who would comment on this religion without having an authentic prior knowledge of it. Rest is upto them.

I couldnt really get your second passage in this message, either you are complaining about the ability of the members who have been participating in this section to answer the questions (which could be right from your point of view) or you are saying that people only ask questions about Islam here to mock it down (This could be partially true but thats not always the case);
So in first case if you think people are not answering logically, which means you are not satisfied with those answers yourself, can you pin point the posts in which answers provided were not logical so that we can explain them in detail, if you have any confusion; and we are always ready to explain and discuss; there is no harm in doing that. So only saying that "Muslims have not been able to come up with the logical answers" would not help your cause (whatever it is) and it wont help ours (which is to spread the truth).

Also your last statement conflicts with the former one because if you think it is free fun for others then it really means that you are also making free fun of Islam without actually coming up with a single logical question yet but just by saying that "Muslims havent been able to come up with logical answers".

Having said that, I strongly believe that there is a purpose of life for every living being, everything is created for some purpose. So inquiring about the truth of life and the purpose of life is very important otherwise its just like passing your life without any objective and reason without knowing why you were sent to this world and its like you waste your life and throw it in a scum bag. I am here to learn and to teach, when it comes to religion that is what the objective of our lives is; mind you that major part of religion is "about dealing with other humans" and "how you spend your life" plus prayers; God said to humans that you might be forgiven for not carrying out your prayers but you wont be forgiven if you hurt some other human being unless he/she forgives you;that shows that religion (Islam) tells us how to spend your life, every aspect of it. We have been created by God, which I am sure you wont disagree unless you are an atheist; and God has given everyone some mission, it could be to help other people by doing charity or any physical help and facilitate others; so we shouldnt forget that we are the creature of God and we should thank Him for whatever he has given to us. When we dont know our identity that what is the purpose of life, I think there wouldnt be any difference between us and animals. So all these questions which come from whoever are pointers to their enquiring mind about the truth of life and its purpose. If you think you have known the purpose of your life then please share it with us, it might help us knowing the purpose of our lives, but hang on; we already do.

	urfi67 wrote:
	loje,,,nice work,,,but mushy i think u just listen to Dr Zakir Naik particularly on Islam and Hinduism,,,it will help u clear many doubts

My goodness, you guys never get it. No one really has any 'questions' or 'doubts' about Islam but still asking questions - guess the reason - please ? Smile

Priya

p.s. No, I have no interest in listening to Dr. Zakir blah blah

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loje wrote:

mushytail wrote:

	imhameed78 wrote:
	ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM THANKS FOR WRITTING ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC. IN THE PRESNET TIME IT IS A VERY BURNNING ISSUE AND MUSLIMS NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS THING. AND THEY NEED TO TELL THE NON MUSLIMS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO REMOVE THE CONFUSIONS IN THE MINDS OF NON-MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD. SO BROTHER KEEP IT UP. GOD BLESS YOU. BEST REGARDS A HAMEED

You are still missing my point. There is really no confusion and no one is really not asking questions to 'learn' about Islam with possible thinking of converting. That is surely not the case.

The only reason the questions are asked about Islam is to mock it for entertainment. The other thing is that Muslims have not been able to come up with logical answers, so its free fun for those asking questions.
Priya

and how about you dear can you give us logical answers about your " religion " Wink

i think you cant Cool

but let me tell you somthing my friend please read it carfully

i had alot of qustions more than the above but i dont want to ask it cos i still unconvinsed about the above

and i will unconvinsed for ever cos you pray to animals and those animals doesnt has abrain how can you pray to them its illogical and you pray to scatchs you made it by your own is that convinsed to you
i geuss not

dear they are ( animals-sun-fire ,,,etc)
all are creatures and they have one who created it that means ALLAH

DONT YOU RELIESE THAT ELEFENTS AND MONKEYS AND DONKEYS ARE MADE BY ALLAH WHO MADE IT FOR US ?????? WHO YOU SHOULD PRAY TO ((((Creatures or Creator of the creatures)))

you said before that muslims in india are the lowest of the lowest class there

sorry for tell you that but

i think the ( hindu ) are the lowest of the lowest people that have brain in this world mabe they are not in the list even

look my friend i know that you have wrong ideas about islam i recommend you to read more books that made by real muslims to know about islam instead of talking without knowing the real islam is.
and really my friend i want the best for you belive me cos we all have the same level of brain if we use it in the right way to know what is the deffrent between logical and illogical .
and mabe you know that what you belive in is not true but you cant Recognized by

becase you think that your parents and grand parents doesnt be wrong ever .
you have the chance to change your belives and rescue your parents from all this and tell them about real religion
really i care about you even idont know you but what our religion tought us that we should care about other people and show them the good way before its too late

i did what i have to do.

if you belive what i said or not its your choice now and your own sorrow

i want you to be relax in your life and after that why you cant reilize the truth that your belives are just a Superstitions

just an advice to you :

you should read real books about islam and if you want me to name some books then

i will with my pleasure

beware about some books cos there is alots of False allegations

about islam and those claiming that they are muslims by doing some things wrong and claims that this is the real islam

i wish you all the best in your life and after Wink

Well, thank you. I see that you have very good questions and much desire to learn about Hindism and it will be very fortunate if you convert while seeking the light from darkness around you.

I will suggest you contact your local Hindu mandar and get detailed answers to your very thought provoking questions. It sounds like you are losing sleep over what seem to you are irrational stipulations of Hindism. Rest assured, there is a logical and rationale behind it and it all ties back to the fundamental teachings. Once you understand the fundamentals, teachings and philosophy, you will understand the answers to your questions.

Best of luck on your beautiful journey to Hindism ! Smile

You will be surprised to know, it is