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M Ashraf Siddiqui
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| Personalities I Met |
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Can we start some thing like personalities I met and my analysis (in few words)
Mr Khan what do you say, atleast we can give our personal views about them.
By chance I got a chance to meet a number of literary, religious, beurocrats, diplomats, politicians, business community, professionals, humanitarian svcs, royalties, masses, different nationalities.
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| Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:36 pm |
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pakistani
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Yes, please.
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Be proud to be a Pakistani (instead of being a Punjabi, Sindhi, Baloch or Pushtoon) |
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| Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:26 pm |
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Shahzaibkhan
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In a wedding ceremony I chanced to meet Maj. Gen. (R) Khalid Maqbool, I saw that as he was aproaching the PTV employees row...every man met him as if he is the president or something....
In PTV I chanced to meet mr.Amin sahab who taught me a bit about poetry.
I have ofcourse met many PTV Producers like hafeez tahir, zulfiqaar farukh, farukh bahsir (now GM), Saftar sahab, etc etc etc....
Zulfiqaar sahab is a good man but he's very sensitive....
Hafeez tahir is a very rangeen man.
Saftar sahab is a concerend person
Basicaly I seldom meet producers, I know all designers in Lahore centre....
Male actors are nice guys, but females think they are godesses!
there are a few journalists I have contacted on the internet, but nothing much about them....
I have met a few poets, some are professors, some are producers, and so on....
I once had a very long (and dangerous) conversation with a french national and she was a cunning person....
I know i'm forgetting someone but can't remember.....
_________________ Mein woh hoon jo kisi ne kaha:
HAM NAGHMA SARA KUCH GHAZLON KE HAM SOORAT GAR KUCH KHWAABON KE
BE JAZBA E SHOQ SUNAYEN KIYA KOI KHWAAB NA HO TO BATAYEN KIYA |
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| Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:00 am |
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M Ashraf Siddiqui
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| Meeting with ZA Bhutto |
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It was yet PPP formation
As General Secretary, Pakistan Muslim Students Federation got a number of times to be near to Late Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, former Foreign Minister of Pakistan at that Time.
Mr Bhutto was Chief Patron of the Students Federation because as Foreign Minister of Pakistan, he was General Secretary Pakistan Muslim League.
Our office was in one room with late Mairaj Khalid office. Mr. Mairaj Khalid was Member West Pakistan Assembly at that time. President of Students Federation was Kanwar Dilshad now Secretary Pakistan Election Commission.
I got many a times to be with ZA Bhutto even when there was no one only both of us. I found him that Mr. Bhutto was a person who never used to listen others patiencely. Whatever he had to say was his already a prepared mind and perhaps never willing to change his views.
He was not in power and he did not even knew that he could enjoy that position in masses what even he enjoys after his sad death. He required support from Punjab area and any one else will be very polite to every leading personality. But Mr Bhutto I have seen angry on senior top people. I used to think at that time, how come he reacts so quick where as he requires support and still had to come up with any shape of political party.
First PPP flag was hoisted by me and one another young man in the office of Mairaj Khalid in Dayyal Singh Mansion area (between Hall Road and Beedon Road), Lahore. It was temporarily Head Quarters of PPP. After that PPP Office was shifted on the 1st floor of half constructed building of Advocate Shaikh Rasheed, Sr. Vice President PPP. Later on, when PPP came into power, Head Quarters were shifted in big building near Reagol Cinema. Perhaps PPP offices are still in same building.
Mr ZA Bhutto was having a very charming personality. But I understand that due to his lacking of listening habbit, not keeping respect and integrity of his own loyal and nearest senior team members and fast in taking decisions made him failure in life. Just in 10 years from forming his own political party PPP, he lost his life in the hands of his own Vice Chairman PPP - Ahmad Riza Qasuri, MNA PPP.
I am witness that many times, Mr Bhutto used to call Ahmad Raza Qasuri that he will be the Foreign Minister of Pakistan. once PPP is in power. Tell you the truth, at that time in my very young age start of my college, I never used to like shaking hands with Ahmad Raza Qasuri - to us at that time, Qasuri and Mustafa Khar were ZERO in personality and discussing any topic. To both I never used to even shake hands.
Next topic will be Maulana Moudoodi
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| Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:15 am |
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Shahzaibkhan
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You are lucky that you met Z A Bhutto Shaheed, by the way Khalid Latif, now IG (R) was his gueard at that time, You know him?
_________________ Mein woh hoon jo kisi ne kaha:
HAM NAGHMA SARA KUCH GHAZLON KE HAM SOORAT GAR KUCH KHWAABON KE
BE JAZBA E SHOQ SUNAYEN KIYA KOI KHWAAB NA HO TO BATAYEN KIYA |
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| Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:53 pm |
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M Ashraf Siddiqui
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Khalid Lateef ?? I dont recall although from 1967 - Jan 1972, any time Mr Bhutto was in Lahore, We were always there every day with him. Hotel Intercontinental was built I think in 1977 and one room for us was always used to be next to ZA Bhutto Suite. Before that, he used to stay in Falettis Hotel near Assembly Hall. My first meeting was there. When I met first time, Film Actor Aslam Pervez was with him sitting in the lawn of the hotel. I still remember Aslam Pervez was holding a glass of whisky but I never saw myself Mr Bhutto drinking in our presence.
His Secretary for Punjab was Shaikh Safdar. He was a failure lawyer having his very small office in Reagal Cinema. In 1970 elections, Sh Safdar also became MPA.
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| Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:46 pm |
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Shahzaibkhan
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Khalid Lateef ?? I dont recall although from 1967 - Jan 1972, any time Mr Bhutto was in Lahore, We were always there every day with him. Hotel Intercontinental was built I think in 1977 and one room for us was always used to be next to ZA Bhutto Suite. Before that, he used to stay in Falettis Hotel near Assembly Hall. My first meeting was there. When I met first time, Film Actor Aslam Pervez was with him sitting in the lawn of the hotel. I still remember Aslam Pervez was holding a glass of whisky but I never saw myself Mr Bhutto drinking in our presence.
His Secretary for Punjab was Shaikh Safdar. He was a failure lawyer having his very small office in Reagal Cinema. In 1970 elections, Sh Safdar also became MPA. |
Well, Khalid Lateef was a junior that time He used to be with him in mostly transportation. He served 2-3 years. He was in sort of is personal security. He and Mr. Z A Bhutto Shaheed, were driving to a pace where (when he was PM) Mr.Bhutto was going, Lateef was driving his car, Latif was DIG that time. He is one of Bhutto's favorites.
Mr.Latif recalls that Ge.Zia whenever going to Bhutto's office used to ask him: "Sahab Ka Mood Kiasa hae?"
who knew He will be the dictator for a decade to come!
_________________ Mein woh hoon jo kisi ne kaha:
HAM NAGHMA SARA KUCH GHAZLON KE HAM SOORAT GAR KUCH KHWAABON KE
BE JAZBA E SHOQ SUNAYEN KIYA KOI KHWAAB NA HO TO BATAYEN KIYA |
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| Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:26 pm |
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M Ashraf Siddiqui
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I will be writing later on my views on General Zia of my 8-9 times meetings with him. Yes I never met ZA Bhutto when he came into power, therefore, Khaled Lateef I have not come across, although, I know one at that commando Brig. his name is Khalid Lateef.
I am also witness when Mr ZA Bhutto was telling TUM UDHAR, HUM IDHAR
I am also witness when Mujeeb U Rahman asked 3 Ministers who were at Chaklala Airport being sent to London. He was brought from Lyallpur jail. Mujeeb U Rahman told he wanted to speak to ZA Bhutto. When Mr Bhutto was told that Mujeeb wanted to speak to him. Bhutto told ask him what he wanted to talk ? Mujeeb told Pakistan can still be saved. He is majority leader, give him Islamabad, Pakistan is saved. When Mr Bhutto was told, Bhutto said," Tell Shaikh Saheb to go to London and anounce from there ". One of the 3 ministers one was Mairaj Khaled. Mr Mairaj Khaled told me personally this incident when he came back from airport. Im sure it can be confirmed by other 2 living ministers of that time.
Today, Mujeeb U Rahman is NOT Father of Nation in Bangladesh. It is Irshad U Rahman. I have attended many Official reception of Bangladesh Day given by Bangladesh ambassadors. Picture as father of nation is hanged of Irshad U Rahman.
There are a number of remeberances of many other top "personalities" of our nation, it is too bitter and black spots.
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| Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:04 pm |
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M Ashraf Siddiqui
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| Meetings With Maulana Abul A'ala Moudoodi |
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Although my meetings with Maulana Abul A'ala Moudoodi were not that frequent and for very long sittings. I met him 2 times and one to one. I met him one time one to one some times in 1968 and 2nd time one to one after 1970 elections. I was in age group of 17-19 years old.
Today, when I think, I feel his greatness that how a young boy of age 17 and then in age 19 was given that high regard, self respect that such a great scholar took me so seriously.
It was my first visit wanted to see publications of Jamaat Islami. It was a daring step that a young activist and a deep admirer at that time of ZA Bhutto went to visit Jamaat Islami. At that time political atmosphere was so tense and there were only TWO major parties in West Pakistan - PPP and Jamaat Islami. No other party was in major compettition. All other political and religious parties were not having their roots through out the country.
In East Pakistan - major parties were National Awami Party and Jamaat Islami.
Maulana Moudoodi style, shafqat and way of talking I remember was very soft and so pleasant as you feel sitting before a noorani face and character person.
I remember I asked him that PPP slogan in elections was that it will distribute land among all Pakistanis, PPP will provide jobs (Roti, Kapra and Makaan). He said very softly that if you multiply land promise and available land - from where required land will be arranged. Moreover, PPP slogans are based on total lies, we can not play with the sentiments of the people, we win or loose.
I remember my feelings as I was sitting in a sorrounded area with noor around.
I was sent to Mr Rahmat Ali's office who asked some one to take me around and show publications of Maulana Moudoodi and by Jamaat. I was shocked and impressed to see such a large number of various publications on all almost subjects relating to day to day life in almost all languages of the world. All writings on these subjects were from Quran.
Such a large publication, and on so many subjects and in so many languages of the world. That was really impressed. After that I visited only once perhaps in 1973 with Javed Hashmi when javed Hashmi was contesting Punjab University elections. Javed Hashmi was NOT a member of Islami Jamiat Tulabaa but he was supported by Islami Jamiat Tulabaa.
In 1973, a university student Baraakat was killed in clash in Old campus. At that time I was near Law College hostel. Firing started, I ran to save myself from bullets, i enetered Law College Hostel and found myself in Hafiz Liaquat (now MNA) room. I stayed there for few hours until firring stopped.
Later on, PPP workers took the body of Baraakat and went agitating until Governor House front door at Mall Road. Governor Ghulam Mustqafa Khar came out near to us. Meanwhile, one PPP worker caught me and was about to hit me with his hockey shouting that he saw me near Jamaat Islami Offices (maulana moudoodi residence, Ichhra). By chance, Khar said that he knows me very well and Im devoted PPP member. If by chance, Governor is delayed or had not come near to us, may be another shaheed body would be in students agitation. It was almost every day an excuse against Ayub Khan's government.
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| Tue Aug 14, 2007 2:16 am |
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Shahzaibkhan
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M A Siddique sahab, aik aur enrty ke muntazir hein hum.....
_________________ Mein woh hoon jo kisi ne kaha:
HAM NAGHMA SARA KUCH GHAZLON KE HAM SOORAT GAR KUCH KHWAABON KE
BE JAZBA E SHOQ SUNAYEN KIYA KOI KHWAAB NA HO TO BATAYEN KIYA |
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| Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:54 pm |
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EnCounter
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Janab Shahzaibkhan Sahab,
Maa aur Baap ke siwa mein kissi personality ko kooch nahi samajhta. Saab FRAUD hai DHOKHA hai.
Har koi chamakti cheez sona nahi hoti!
Har eik apne matlab keyliye apne aap ko badda dihata hai. Yes, kooch loag hein jin pey naz hai. Lekin phir bhi Maa, Baap, Behan aur Bhai ke ilawa koi cheez itni personality nahi rakhti. Chahe woh Rom ka King ho ya phir Sikandr-e-Azam ho. Yeh woh azeem hastiyan hein joh zaindagi mein sirf eik bar milti hein. Baqqi saab milta hai. Lehaza inn azeem personalitis ke ilawaa kissi aur ko milne ki bhalla kia zaroorat hai. (That is my own thought)
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| Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:53 am |
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Riya
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Janab Shahzaibkhan Sahab,
Maa aur Baap ke siwa mein kissi personality ko kooch nahi samajhta. Saab FRAUD hai DHOKHA hai.
Har koi chamakti cheez sona nahi hoti!
Har eik apne matlab keyliye apne aap ko badda dihata hai. Yes, kooch loag hein jin pey naz hai. Lekin phir bhi Maa, Baap, Behan aur Bhai ke ilawa koi cheez itni personality nahi rakhti. Chahe woh Rom ka King ho ya phir Sikandr-e-Azam ho. Yeh woh azeem hastiyan hein joh zaindagi mein sirf eik bar milti hein. Baqqi saab milta hai. Lehaza inn azeem personalitis ke ilawaa kissi aur ko milne ki bhalla kia zaroorat hai. (That is my own thought) |
yes i agree with u aap nay sahi kaha ha Maa Baap aur Behan Bhai kay ilawa aaj kal main koi bhi kisi kay saath sinsiore nahi hota ha sab loag fraud aur dhokay baaz hee hotay hain is selfish dunya main agar aap ko kisi aur say thori si bhi hamdardi milti ha to usko Ghaneemat samjhien lekin aisa nahi hota ha sab kay sab sirf jhooti hamdardi hee dikhatay hain is dunya main apno kay siwa koi kisi ka nahi hota ha khuwa ho jo bhi ho jaisa kay aap nay kaha
and its mine thought
pata nahi kisi ko acha lagay ya na lagay but jo meri soch thi so mainay keh dia
hope no one will mind it
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| Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:55 pm |
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EnCounter
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Riya,
Excellent! Well Said!
I am very happy the way you think. Well Done.
What you wrote is actually a fact. Dosen`t matter for me too wither who believe on it or not. But I am very much agree with you.
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| Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:41 pm |
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Riya
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Riya,
Excellent! Well Said!
I am very happy the way you think. Well Done.
What you wrote is actually a fact. Dosen`t matter for me too wither who believe on it or not. But I am very much agree with you. |
Thanx for ur comapnions !!
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| Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:00 pm |
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Shahzaibkhan
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Dear Riya and EnCounter dosto,
I totaly agree with you. These other people are just to discuss, and that is it, thus the only ones dear to us should be aur blood realtions, but sadly, I have the bitterest relations with the closest of my blood relatives, I don't regret that: Allah says that he has divided love into 100 parts, 99 he keeps with him, only 1 % is persent in this world, that is how we have the love between people here. I think that this one piece is just enough for a mother's or father's love. Not even husband and wife make it. And brother and sister is off the table. We must remember what IQBAL says:
NA WOH ESHQ MEIN RAHIN GARMIYAAN NA WOH HUSN MEIN RAHIN SHOKHIYAAN
NA WOH GHAZNAVI MEIN TARHAP RAHI NA WOH GHAM HAE ZULF E AYAAZ MEIN
JO MEIN SARBA SAJDA HUWA KABHI TO ZAMEEN SE AANE LAGI SADA
TERA DIL TO HAE SANAM AASHNA TIJHE KIYA MILE GA NAMAAZ MEIN
It is true.
_________________ Mein woh hoon jo kisi ne kaha:
HAM NAGHMA SARA KUCH GHAZLON KE HAM SOORAT GAR KUCH KHWAABON KE
BE JAZBA E SHOQ SUNAYEN KIYA KOI KHWAAB NA HO TO BATAYEN KIYA |
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| Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:18 am |
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Riya
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Dear Riya and EnCounter dosto,
I totaly agree with you. These other people are just to discuss, and that is it, thus the only ones dear to us should be aur blood realtions, but sadly, I have the bitterest relations with the closest of my blood relatives, I don't regret that: Allah says that he has divided love into 100 parts, 99 he keeps with him, only 1 % is persent in this world, that is how we have the love between people here. I think that this one piece is just enough for a mother's or father's love. Not even husband and wife make it. And brother and sister is off the table. We must remember what IQBAL says:
NA WOH ESHQ MEIN RAHIN GARMIYAAN NA WOH HUSN MEIN RAHIN SHOKHIYAAN
NA WOH GHAZNAVI MEIN TARHAP RAHI NA WOH GHAM HAE ZULF E AYAAZ MEIN
JO MEIN SARBA SAJDA HUWA KABHI TO ZAMEEN SE AANE LAGI SADA
TERA DIL TO HAE SANAM AASHNA TIJHE KIYA MILE GA NAMAAZ MEIN
It is true. |
Yes shahzaib i also agree with u
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| Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:52 pm |
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Shahzaibkhan
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Dear Riya and EnCounter dosto,
I totaly agree with you. These other people are just to discuss, and that is it, thus the only ones dear to us should be aur blood realtions, but sadly, I have the bitterest relations with the closest of my blood relatives, I don't regret that: Allah says that he has divided love into 100 parts, 99 he keeps with him, only 1 % is persent in this world, that is how we have the love between people here. I think that this one piece is just enough for a mother's or father's love. Not even husband and wife make it. And brother and sister is off the table. We must remember what IQBAL says:
NA WOH ESHQ MEIN RAHIN GARMIYAAN NA WOH HUSN MEIN RAHIN SHOKHIYAAN
NA WOH GHAZNAVI MEIN TARHAP RAHI NA WOH GHAM HAE ZULF E AYAAZ MEIN
JO MEIN SARBA SAJDA HUWA KABHI TO ZAMEEN SE AANE LAGI SADA
TERA DIL TO HAE SANAM AASHNA TIJHE KIYA MILE GA NAMAAZ MEIN
It is true. |
Yes shahzaib i also agree with u |
Thankx.
_________________ Mein woh hoon jo kisi ne kaha:
HAM NAGHMA SARA KUCH GHAZLON KE HAM SOORAT GAR KUCH KHWAABON KE
BE JAZBA E SHOQ SUNAYEN KIYA KOI KHWAAB NA HO TO BATAYEN KIYA |
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| Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:16 pm |
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pakistan_rocks
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not met anybody 
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"There is no power on earth that can undo Pakistan." Mohammad Ali Jinnah
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| Sun Sep 23, 2007 8:49 pm |
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Riya
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so meet me i m Riya
what about u ?
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| Mon Sep 24, 2007 12:01 pm |
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RAKhan
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| Sad but very true |
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NA WOH ESHQ MEIN RAHIN GARMIYAAN NA WOH HUSN MEIN RAHIN SHOKHIYAAN
NA WOH GHAZNAVI MEIN TARHAP RAHI NA WOH GHAM HAE ZULF E AYAAZ MEIN
JO MEIN SARBA SAJDA HUWA KABHI TO ZAMEEN SE AANE LAGI SADA
TERA DIL TO HAE SANAM AASHNA TIJHE KIYA MILE GA NAMAAZ MEIN
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The worst part is that we do not even have a clue about it.
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Long Live Pakistan
In the end All praises are due to Lord |
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| Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:56 am |
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RAKhan
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M A Siddique sahab, aik aur enrty ke muntazir hein hum..... |
Siddique sahab, you promissed that you will be writing about your meetings with late Zia -ul- Haq.
Just a reminder
I hope that you are fine.
_________________ Respect All
Long Live Pakistan
In the end All praises are due to Lord |
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