Pakistan wants to live in peace with India: Bilawal

	rohit_bangalore wrote:
	i agree to islamic terrorism and i did update my post which .....

lol, there isn`t any Islamic Terrorisam at all.
WAR ON TERROR is actually WAR ON ISLAM Exclamation

Why hindus not suffring, because theu DO NOT have any point or matter Exclamation

Why musli suufring, because Islam is spreding all over the world and that makes super powers much
afraid.
Try to look out Indian terrorisam in Kashmir & Pakistan

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	rohit_bangalore wrote:
	1 simple question... IF there is a fire in ur neighbours house..who is likely get affected...Fire can also reach others house.....AS long as u remain at peace with us ,we will never think of even blinking in ur courtyard...

DOn`t worry you have full protection by Israel, Russia & USA.
So don`t worry about this fire. Laughing

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India policy is not made by USA Senate or BUSH....U r really funny....India has an independent foreign policy..are we not still having good relations with IRAN and myanmar??i guess u r working for CIA or MOSSAD and u have all clue about the WTC attack...INDIA signed nuclear agreement with USA 2 yrs ago but we have still not implemented..Indian polity is very complex ...

BUt :

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	Well, of course you indians have to follow USA & Israeli steps. Thats for sure. If USA say to India that its night even its morning, but India will say yes it is night! Indian media & politaions following USA steps and do believe what USA says.

The above quote will hold true for General Musharraf..We didnt make friendship with USA but they want to access our markets and invest in india..India will never like to form some bloc with USA...we have very good relations with our traditional friend Russia .We also want to have good relationship with china..And same goes with pakistan with which we share our history and cultual heritage...

Hinuds are not suffering coz there are no hindu terrorists who have bombed london/USA or anywhere in africa...Let it be MAldive,Kenya,USA,France,London,Pakistan,India and china we have only heard about islamic terrorism.........HIndus will never be ready to sacrifice themselves for their religion or for some fanatics.........

All I have to say is that there is no Islamic terrorisam in the world.
This is just a propaganda against Islam.
Again I have to say that why should hindu comes to street or fight
for their right while they have no threat by USA & Israel. Your and western lots of things
are same. I cannot see any diffrencec between hindus & western. (I am not saying bad words againt hinduism)
But that is true that lots of things are same for you & western culture.

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anyways yes I mixed up laloo with narenda modi the one who won elections in gujrat.
the biggest problem of India is that they think that kashmir is the INTEGRAL part of india where the heck this idea came from I have no clue but this is how hindus have kept along their old traditional ideas which are no more applicable in this modern world. A country is completed with people inside it when people dont want to live under some admin in some area of land then it does not remain the part of that country, it is merely on people to decide which part they belong to, it depends on religion, customs, relations and way of life which is far more closer to muslims and Pakistanis. Try not to give me those dry repeated indian answers make some logic out of it, and dont waste our time along with yours.

if you are telling us that india can't give away that piece of land then inshaALLAH one day we'll liberate if from india's clutches. look at how sinister is your people that they havent accepted UNO resolutions, and how apocalyptic westerners are that they dont want this issue to be resolved otherwise they wouldnt remain on top of this world. The pakistanis who say that the creation of Pakistan was a mistake they are not Pakistanis they are indian sponsored terrorists e.g MQM. Altaf hussain has passes such comments for quite a number of times. Everyone apart from their party memebers acknowledges that party being terrorist and haunting.
But the biggest misconception that you indians have is that poverty and terrorism that you think are core problems which are NOT will get resolved themselves as soon as india leaves kashmir because terrorism is only being perpetuated because of indian occupation there would be no insurgency against indian forces after they leave muslim areas because we wouldnt have any reason to do so. and of course india and pakistan spend alot of their budget on armies and you can help reduce poverty by reducing their budget on armies that they deploy on borders. especially india spends alot on their armies in kashmir and look what happens to your soldiers they do suicides and kill their mates because of prolonged frustration from their officials.

U have a lot of faith in ur terrorists which now wants to be part of politics..They are so tired of pakistan that they dont want to continue with a foolish struggle that gives them only death and their wives and innocent children have to bear the brunt....Keep dreaming to remove kashmir from cluthes of india...ANd save ur own territory sindh,balochistan,pashtunistan and punjab from disintegration....KAshmir is integral part of india and will remain the part of india for zillions of years...I doubt about future of pakistan if young people like u are so pro-terrorism and so pessimistic with the approach.god save ur country.....

rohit_bangalore wrote:

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anyways yes I mixed up laloo with narenda modi the one who won elections in gujrat.
the biggest problem of India is that they think that kashmir is the INTEGRAL part of india where the heck this idea came from I have no clue but this is how hindus have kept along their old traditional ideas which are no more applicable in this modern world. A country is completed with people inside it when people dont want to live under some admin in some area of land then it does not remain the part of that country, it is merely on people to decide which part they belong to, it depends on religion, customs, relations and way of life which is far more closer to muslims and Pakistanis. Try not to give me those dry repeated indian answers make some logic out of it, and dont waste our time along with yours.

if you are telling us that india can't give away that piece of land then inshaALLAH one day we'll liberate if from india's clutches. look at how sinister is your people that they havent accepted UNO resolutions, and how apocalyptic westerners are that they dont want this issue to be resolved otherwise they wouldnt remain on top of this world. The pakistanis who say that the creation of Pakistan was a mistake they are not Pakistanis they are indian sponsored terrorists e.g MQM. Altaf hussain has passes such comments for quite a number of times. Everyone apart from their party memebers acknowledges that party being terrorist and haunting.
But the biggest misconception that you indians have is that poverty and terrorism that you think are core problems which are NOT will get resolved themselves as soon as india leaves kashmir because terrorism is only being perpetuated because of indian occupation there would be no insurgency against indian forces after they leave muslim areas because we wouldnt have any reason to do so. and of course india and pakistan spend alot of their budget on armies and you can help reduce poverty by reducing their budget on armies that they deploy on borders. especially india spends alot on their armies in kashmir and look what happens to your soldiers they do suicides and kill their mates because of prolonged frustration from their officials.

U have a lot of faith in ur terrorists which now wants to be part of politics..They are so tired of pakistan that they dont want to continue with a foolish struggle that gives them only death and their wives and innocent children have to bear the brunt....Keep dreaming to remove kashmir from cluthes of india...ANd save ur own territory sindh,balochistan,pashtunistan and punjab from disintegration....KAshmir is integral part of india and will remain the part of india for zillions of years...I doubt about future of pakistan if young people like u are so pro-terrorism and so pessimistic with the approach.god save ur country.....

Cool down,
I`m just showing or try to upgrade your poor knowledge about Indian Terrorisam in South Asia.
Yes, one day Kashmir will be either an independent sate or belong to Pakista. You too will see this dream to become true.
You have to believe about Indian terrorisam into Pakistan with the support of MQM, RAW & Afghanistani millitance. Its a big question what
I said 1000 times that why both Pakistan`s own media and world are keep quite over Indian Terrorisam in Pakistan & Kashmir.
There could be lots of reasons for that. But after all its true that India is fully involving with their terrorisam activities in Pakistan Exclamation

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online u r very adament...u totally diverted the topic........

This is the problem with some radical pakistanis who are just anti india for sake of it....But these fools will try to copy indians in every field....

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HINDUS and western civilizations are same.??????.........well we are open to new ideas.we are peaceful.But we always take our culture and heritage along......we are pro development......Hindus worship almost everything on the earth mouse,insects,cow,elephant,trees,earth,crop..But we are not fanatics and its not compulsory for every person to visit temple..I visit temples only on special occasions....we dont bother much about our religion...Even some hindus who mock against our own hindus systems are free to comment...We dont declare fatwa against them....And India is not a country for hindus...We are a secular country and we respect every religion.

Western civilizations are totally different from india...U can say india and pakistan share similar civilizations...But the tyranny is that u people couldn give equal respect to ur rich historical civilizations...and cared more about arabic culture which was 100% different from ur own culture with only similarity bween u and them is islam......

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Arre aap log kyun larai ker rahe ho. . .

Aap sab theek ho.... Koi ghalat nahi hai. . .

Now Calm Down !!!

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HINDUS and western civilizations are same.??????.........well we are open to new ideas.we are peaceful.But we always take our culture and heritage along......we are pro development......Hindus worship almost everything on the earth mouse,insects,cow,elephant,trees,earth,crop..But we are not fanatics and its compulsory for every person to visit temple..I visit temples only on special occasions....we dont bother much about our religion...Even some hindus who mock against our own hindus systems are free to comment...We dont declare fatwa against them....And India is not a country for hindus...We are a secular country and we respect every religion.

Western civilizations are totally different from india...U can say india and pakistan share similar civilizations...But the tyranny is that u people couldn give equal respect to ur rich historical civilizations...and cared more about arabic culture which was 100% different from ur own culture with only similarity bween u and them is islam......

Are you sure that you hindu respect every religion Question

If so then what about Babri Mosque Question

What about Gujrat violence Question

Attcks on churchis Question

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	Anne wrote:
	Arre aap log kyun larai ker rahe ho. . . Aap sab theek ho.... Koi ghalat nahi hai. . . Now Calm Down !!!

No, no fight. I am just trying to upgrade poor knowledge of my indian friend here.
Because it looks like that he is not aware by the reality of India!

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I think u have been seeing a lot of movies on CIA,FBI and MI6....well done but our RAW Is a very in-efficient organisation which dont need to do somethng 2 harm u people...U all are already falling under ur own weight...why do india need to make u unstable..we are not so fool that we will let u becom unstable and ur atom bomb will fall into wrong hands and become a true ISLAMIC bomb......

well keep trying ...BUt dont lose full pakistan for kashmir....I think india really did the biggest mistake by not acquiring full pakistan in 1971...u guys have no brain and cnt even control ur territory..........At that time , half of punjab and full kashmir was under india..But we are so gr8 that we gav ur part of kashmir and punjab for no favours.......U r lucky 2 have so peaceful country like india...........Next time india wont do a mistake ...dont wry by 2020 pakistan will cease to exist..we have the capability to break u into 100 states. or even submerge ur full state into india union...AFter 2 years we wont be afraid of ur Atomic bomb as we will have the most sophisticated anti missile defence set up in world....ANd if u continue to fight among urself..There are some development loving people in pakistan who will he happy to be part of india...And then we wont think twice of acquiring u .................USA already has all of ur bombs and they dont mind letting pakistan into india...AS such u r creating hell lot of problems for the world...

rohit_bangalore wrote:

I think u have been seeing a lot of movies on CIA,FBI and MI6....well done but our RAW Is a very in-efficient organisation which dont need to do somethng 2 harm u people...U all are already falling under ur own weight...why do india need to make u unstable..we are not so fool that we will let u becom unstable and ur atom bomb will fall into wrong hands and become a true ISLAMIC bomb......

well keep trying ...BUt dont lose full pakistan for kashmir....I think india really did the biggest mistake by not acquiring full pakistan in 1971...u guys have no brain and cnt even control ur territory..........At that time , half of punjab and full kashmir was under india..But we are so gr8 that we gav ur part of kashmir and punjab for no favours.......U r lucky 2 have so peaceful country like india...........Next time india wont do a mistake ...dont wry by 2020 pakistan will cease to exist..we have the capability to break u into 100 states. or even submerge ur full state into india union...AFter 2 years we wont be afraid of ur Atomic bomb as we will have the most sophisticated anti missile defence set up in world....ANd if u continue to fight among urself..There are some development loving people in pakistan who will he happy to be part of india...And then we wont think twice of acquiring u .................USA already has all of ur bombs and they dont mind letting pakistan into india...AS such u r creating hell lot of problems for the world...

Keep dreaming..... Wink

I am just try to show you the rality of India.
If you denie then it is some thing that I understand. Because this is your
indians big mistake that you didnot look at own fault, and love to cry over others.
India is a terrorist state in South Asia!

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Why you donot want to answer about Babri Mosque incedent and what happened into Indian State Gujrat.
More than 3000 innocent muslim were killed by hindus. And you say that you hindus respect every religion. Laughing

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You indians learning only 1 thing in your school, colleges, universities and by your media and that
is "Nafrat" hateness. This your indians reality. You have same cultures as western. You eat every thing what
western do. Laughing

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You may claim to Bilawal about the problems you have from Pakistan.
He may help you. Laughing

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NOw online will tell u a real fiction story about RAW.....

He will also talk about a hindu terrorists who blowed himself up to do such a savage act in lahore......AS such we have never heard of hindu suicide bombers in india,but online has so deep knowledge of india that he dreams only about RAW at night.........Or may be he could have been tortured by a RAW official in pakistan..

Did u study in madrassa????or were u brought up in taliwan???well i didnt know that i m lving a terrorist country..thanx for opening my eyes///wt u want me to say.india is the worst country in the world....chalo i know some people have this tendency anti india notions.......................

ok

1)is india a hindu state?...is our constitution is bullshit?...how it matters if we have a VIce presiden who is muslim and general who is muslim ,a sikh who is army chief.,a sikh who is head of planning commission and PM who is a sikh ,and there is no hindu in top posts .. of our country

2)did India govt destroy babri masjid?:Some hindu fanatics( and mob) mainly comprising of labours nd goondas with support of a regional party destroys a mosque..did it have central support???Is governmnt of india main aim is to destroy mosque...we have laws and the case is running in supremen court..There are cases running gainst advani,modi and others,BUt there were not the person who broke the mosque...The mosque was destroyed by mob.....Even supreme court is in dilemna..BHai we are a secular state and Ayodhya had bcome so popular stuuff ...HIndus epic ramayana describe RAMA "avatar of vishnu" and there was a babri masjid made by BABAR ..HIndus say temples of rama were made in ancient period which was destroyed by babar.....BUT law cant create tension in community...so the case will continue to run for century...There will be no temple and mosque...

3)did indian govt did Gujrat riots?:it was again plagued by hindu fanatics who has support of a state govt CM (modi)_.I do agree that they killed 3000 muslims.The Godhra kand led to this riots..IN godra some 400 hindus were burnt alive in train...now there are some hindus anti-social people and there are some muslim anti-social people .but u cant say that india govt or india did it...Well i do agree that damage to muslims was 5 times more than done to hindus..But we are a secular country.BY highlighting such stuffs in media we cant create tnsion in full india.....There is indian law which has charge sheeted and tried 100 +hindus in this case...They are getting tried in Supreme court of india...BUt we cant just hang smeone without proof...its democracy...we dont have proofs against modi..Even the tapes which came up cant be enough to charge him with offence...See no leader commits a crime directly.,They only take help of poor brainless fanatics ...So its difficult to charge them......

Listen crime cant be taken from a religion point of view .. if we start highlighting crime on basis of religion nd sects..it can lead to full chaos in any country....gujrat riots can be called as a blot on secular nature of india but we do believe in our judiciary....which country in the world is 100% secular..india is home only to 65% literate...u go to USA and france which has 100% literacy and they are developed country but they also have riots.....
BY just showing 1-2 flaws u cant just say india s not secular..........

LAW and order violators (criminals/terrorists )dont have any religion..There are only criminal/anti social/terrorists evil for all society of the world.....

	Anne wrote:
	Arre aap log kyun larai ker rahe ho. . . Aap sab theek ho.... Koi ghalat nahi hai. . . Now Calm Down !!!

what do you mean aap sab theek ho? why are you being so diplomatic, there can be only one side that could be true either they guys here who are supporting india's view point or us. start being upfront and bold and if you are not brave enough to do so then stay out of it, muslims dont like hypocrites this is why we are having problems with indians.

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rohit_bangalore wrote:

NOw online will tell u a real fiction story about RAW.....

He will also talk about a hindu terrorists who blowed himself up to do such a savage act in lahore......AS such we have never heard of hindu suicide bombers in india,but online has so deep knowledge of india that he dreams only about RAW at night.........Or may be he could have been tortured by a RAW official in pakistan..

Did u study in madrassa????or were u brought up in taliwan???well i didnt know that i m lving a terrorist country..thanx for opening my eyes///wt u want me to say.india is the worst country in the world....chalo i know some people have this tendency anti india notions.......................

ok

1)is india a hindu state?...is our constitution is bullshit?...how it matters if we have a VIce presiden who is muslim and general who is muslim ,a sikh who is army chief.,a sikh who is head of planning commission and PM who is a sikh ,and there is no hindu in top posts .. of our country

2)did India govt destroy babri masjid?:Some hindu fanatics( and mob) mainly comprising of labours nd goondas with support of a regional party destroys a mosque..did it have central support???Is governmnt of india main aim is to destroy mosque...we have laws and the case is running in supremen court..There are cases running gainst advani,modi and others,BUt there were not the person who broke the mosque...The mosque was destroyed by mob.....Even supreme court is in dilemna..BHai we are a secular state and Ayodhya had bcome so popular stuuff ...HIndus epic ramayana describe RAMA "avatar of vishnu" and there was a babri masjid made by BABAR ..HIndus say temples of rama were made in ancient period which was destroyed by babar.....BUT law cant create tension in community...so the case will continue to run for century...There will be no temple and mosque...

3)did indian govt did Gujrat riots?:it was again plagued by hindu fanatics who has support of a state govt CM (modi)_.I do agree that they killed 3000 muslims.The Godhra kand led to this riots..IN godra some 400 hindus were burnt alive in train...now there are some hindus anti-social people and there are some muslim anti-social people .but u cant say that india govt or india did it...Well i do agree that damage to muslims was 5 times more than done to hindus..But we are a secular country.BY highlighting such stuffs in media we cant create tnsion in full india.....There is indian law which has charge sheeted and tried 100 +hindus in this case...They are getting tried in Supreme court of india...BUt we cant just hang smeone without proof...its democracy...we dont have proofs against modi..Even the tapes which came up cant be enough to charge him with offence...See no leader commits a crime directly.,They only take help of poor brainless fanatics ...So its difficult to charge them......

Listen crime cant be taken from a religion point of view .. if we start highlighting crime on basis of religion nd sects..it can lead to full chaos in any country....gujrat riots can be called as a blot on secular nature of india but we do believe in our judiciary....which country in the world is 100% secular..india is home only to 65% literate...u go to USA and france which has 100% literacy and they are developed country but they also have riots.....
BY just showing 1-2 flaws u cant just say india s not secular..........

LAW and order violators (criminals/terrorists )dont have any religion..There are only criminal/anti social/terrorists evil for all society of the world.....

you are still not very sound and successful in convincing me to write some passages through. you dont understand the importance of religion for an individual, this is also a basic problem with indians, as I said earlier and repeating it again that Pakistanis cannot go secular this is nearly impossible we are moderate muslims and we cannot go further than that, we have to practice it because we know the beauty of religion and especially Islam. It also tells the strength of Islamic concepts over hinduism that why muslims practice their religion more than what hindus do especially if you compare educated and literate people in both hinduism and Islam because they know ins and outs and they think logically. So stop convincing us that India is a secular state or not because first of all we dont give a damn if it is a secular state and even if you claim that it is then we dont accept it because just like you have hindu extremists in india we have unfortunately extremists in afghan border (there are reasons for taliban, you shouldl read the history of war with russia on afghanistan and american role in it and now america has backed off), try to talk to the point because you have not still answered what I asked in my previous posts but putting lame points

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	Anne wrote:
	Arre aap log kyun larai ker rahe ho. . . Aap sab theek ho.... Koi ghalat nahi hai. . . Now Calm Down !!!

what do you mean aap sab theek ho? why are you being so diplomatic, there can be only one side that could be true either they guys here who are supporting india's view point or us. start being upfront and bold, muslims dont like hypocrites this is why we are having problems with indians.

No...

If you want to hear from me that Indians are Bad then NO...

And this is not Hypocracy. . .neither Diplomacy...

I Respect every Human being irrespect of their Ethnicity, Background and Nationality.

No one is Superior or Inferior.

And the point of my post was to stop flaming each other. Which youve taken in the wrong sense.

Peace all the Way!!!

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	muslims dont like hypocrites this is why we are having problems with indians.

u have to involve religion in everything.....Eat religion,drink religion and sleep in ur religion and wish god gives u everythng without any work and continue to fight among ur own muslim brothers ....GReat ISLAM at development in pakistan...

pakistan ab bhi bach sakta he agr pakistani chahein.musalman apas me jaghar rahe he tu kafiro ka kya kehna.plz agr hum sab abhi bhi ek hojae tu humara mulk behtar hosakta.only if u will.na musharaf na bhutto only awwam-e-pakistan,agar is mulk kop koi barbad karne ki koshish kar raha he wo he usa,india.NOT AFGHANISTAN.or agr apkistan ko koi barbaad kar raha he wo he pakistani hum he sanwaar sakte he hum hi bighard sakte he plz kuch nahi tu duwa hi sahi karre plz. Embarassed

Anne wrote:

ugwaraich wrote:

	Anne wrote:
	Arre aap log kyun larai ker rahe ho. . . Aap sab theek ho.... Koi ghalat nahi hai. . . Now Calm Down !!!

what do you mean aap sab theek ho? why are you being so diplomatic, there can be only one side that could be true either they guys here who are supporting india's view point or us. start being upfront and bold, muslims dont like hypocrites this is why we are having problems with indians.

No...

If you want to hear from me that Indians are Bad then NO...

And this is not Hypocracy. . .neither Diplomacy...

I Respect every Human being irrespect of their Ethnicity, Background and Nationality.

No one is Superior or Inferior.

And the point of my post was to stop flaming each other. Which youve taken in the wrong sense.

Peace all the Way!!!

I didnt want you to say that indians are bad, I just said that you should say what you feel is true. now me and rohit were talking about two completely different things both things cannot be true at the same time so there is no such answer "aap sab theek keh rahay hain".

secondly, it is an ideal statement that
"I Respect every Human being irrespect of their Ethnicity, Background and Nationality." there is no such thing in real world, wherever you go you will see biased behaviour even in the most legitimate countries you will find organisations claiming "Equal Opportunity" but there is nothing as such.

to my knowledge I did not say in any of my posts that muslims are superior or indians are inferior, I just said that they have different view points to take a single thing.

anyways I am taking this topic so easy dont know what makes you feel that we are blazing each other.

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	muslims dont like hypocrites this is why we are having problems with indians.

u have to involve religion in everything.....Eat religion,drink religion and sleep in ur religion and wish god gives u everythng without any work and continue to fight among ur own muslim brothers ....GReat ISLAM at development in pakistan...

you know what, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED TO TELL YOU THAT WE LIVE RELIGION WE DONT TAKE IT AS A FORMALITY, WE EAT RELIGION, DRINK RELIGION SLEEP RELIGION AND WE WILL DIE IN RELIGION, BECAUSE IT GIVES US A COMPLETE WAY OF LIFE and CONSTITUTION FOR A MUSLIM COUNTRY which is unfortunately not implemented in Pakistan at the moment and of course it is not possible that we would live without doing work. WE BELIEVE THAT GOD GIVES US, WHATEVER WE HAVE THRIVED FOR AND WORKED FOR, it is a stupid notions by Atheists that we leave everything to God and do nothing.
the reason why Pakistan is having all those troubles is not because we are muslims its because most of the muslims are departing from Islam, unfortunately most of us donot practice Islam. But inshaALLAH we'll get there very soon.

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pakistan ab bhi bach sakta he agr pakistani chahein.musalman apas me jaghar rahe he tu kafiro ka kya kehna.plz agr hum sab abhi bhi ek hojae tu humara mulk behtar hosakta.only if u will.na musharaf na bhutto only awwam-e-pakistan,agar is mulk kop koi barbad karne ki koshish kar raha he wo he usa,india.NOT AFGHANISTAN.or agr apkistan ko koi barbaad kar raha he wo he pakistani hum he sanwaar sakte he hum hi bighard sakte he plz kuch nahi tu duwa hi sahi karre plz. Embarassed

bohat khoob kaha aap nay, haan gee yehi attitude hona chahiyey sabka.