Pakistan has launched Military Operation against Taliban

To pamada:
"I called them 100 and millions time a terrorist who killed innocent Pakistanis"

It means Musharraf ordered killing of innocent FATA ppl he is what? MQM killed ppl on shahrahefaisal who are they?

best regards

	jazz_01 wrote:
	To pamada: "I called them 100 and millions time a terrorist who killed innocent Pakistanis" It means Musharraf ordered killing of innocent FATA ppl he is what? MQM killed ppl on shahrahefaisal who are they? best regards

People on this forum know English very well and what I wrote is understandable to everyone, I’ll appreciate if you share some positive comments rather than translating our comments in your own way.

Who are the enemies of us and who are the terrorist in our country is very well known to each of us but the difference is that we see it from different angles, but we all are right from our side.!!!!

What you do when you have a mental Dog in your house you kill yes because there is no chance to bring this Dog to a normal life and let him alive is the risk for the people around.

The same our army is doing, they are going to wipe out the mentally ill and misguided people out of our tribal area Tribal land is for our Tribal people lived in peace always but not for the the terrorist from Afghanistan, let these terroris junkies live in Afghanistan, we have nothing to do with this merciless country who have forgotten that Pakistan was the only country who help them to survive during Russian egression, we welcome there people as our own brother and sisters and in the gift they send their terrorist in to our country and started misguiding our innocent tribal brother and sister, more ever there Dolly president now call Pakistanis a terrorist. Its shame for us and Paki Army has fully right to protect the dignity of our nation. If some corrupted generals have spoiled the image of army it’s there problem, our Javans have nothing to do with them. No general who captured power had the good end of his life look in the past please. Be well.

pamada wrote:

terraX wrote:

pamada wrote:

To terraX:
I’m not agree with you, nobody on this forum is appreciating killing of innocent people, tribal people are our brothers and Pak Army is deployed there to save there and rest of Pakistani people lives.

Pak Army is there to root out the foreign Terrorists who have brain washed some of our tribal people who think that suicide booming is a direct path to haven, they are killing innocents Pakistani on the name of Allah and terrifying local tribe people, they are blowing up our Masjids, girl’s school and you are asking us to feel shame; for what why???, so far Taliban aim is to push us in stone ages.

No my friend I’m not at all agree with you, in my opinion Terrorist are not Muslims, praying 5 time a day and blast Masjids is not what Islam teach if they are brain washed and misguided people they’ll never come to a normal civilized life they have become wild and we have to deal with them as a hunter, if we don't root out them they'll continue killing our brother and sister, remember please! The Best defense is to Attack.

is it really smart to repeat the same lies the government officials rant on our TVs 24/7 .......... ??
all i say is to use your brains before you call some people terrorists or whatever .. dont just 'repeat' governemt propaganda "THEY TERROROSTS, WE GOOD, WE KILL THEM AND EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT" believe me brother if we let them kill our brothers and sisters ... THEY WILL COME TO OUR HOMES TOO.. THEY WILL KILL US TOO............... DONT BE FOOLED INTO BELEVING THAT 'THEY' ARE FUNDAMENTALISTS THATS WHY THEY 'MUST' DIE.. you know what goes around .. comes aroud.... what you do to others will come back to haunt you........... NO MATTER WHAT THE ODDS MAY SEEM....

answer me just one question : who destroyed the red masjid and jamia hafsa and killed all the women and children too............... ??? who were they .. the proud soldiers of a proud nation............ I DONT THINK SO ... . i guess this QUESTION must not be a difficult one to answer... besides this there are countless other examples when our PROUD soldiers destroyed mosques, madrassahs , demolished really poor people's houses under some flimsy pretext.... LISTEN : EVEN ARMIES MUST FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION ... EVERYONE MUST BE ACCOUNTABLE TO LAW.. HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED UNDER WHAT LAW ARE THEY KILLLING INNOCENT (OR NOT SO INNOCENT PEOPLE) ?? HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED THAT EVEN THEY DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO "PUNISH" ANYONE WITH "LEGAL DUE PROCESS"...... THEY TAKE THEIR OATH TO PROTECT PAKISTANI CONSTITUTION TOO.. AND ACCORDING TO THAT PIECE OF LEGISLATION .. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO REVOKE THE RIGHTS ENDOWED BY IT "ie the right to defend themselves in a just court of law.."................ i cannot be more forceful in explaining this .... THE ARMOED FORCES SHOULD REALIZE THAT THEY MUST DEFEND THE CITIZENS OF THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN.. they must show that they EXIST NOT BECAUSE OF THE POLITICIANS WHO MAY COME AND GO . BUT THEY EXIST ONLY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN.... THEY MUST NOT FOLLOW ORDERS THAT UNDERMINE THE "LEGAL" RIGHTS OF PAKISTANI CITIZENS ENDOWED BY THE CONSTITUTION OF PAKISTAN ....

and especially after 2001 when have you heard Pakistan army ever defending pakistanis from foreign offensives... sep attacks from Nato forces... INFACT THEY "OWN" THOSE MURDEROUS EVENTS ... WITH DISTURBING 'PRIDE'

You and me exist in this country because of our Javans standing in border protecting us, If people blowing our Masjids, buses and public sights in my opinion they are terrorist no body will call them Imam but if you call them your brothers then its your problem not ours.

Lal Masjids was a disaster provoked by corrupted Mullahs who involve there self deeply into politics and as a shield they used innocent Pakistani people. If you ever in your life read Quran please bring me the words saying go to Masjids with weapons????? Keep innocent people as hostages there??? I called them 100 and millions time a terrorist who killed inocent Pakistanis, if you call them your brothers its your ideoligical problem God will help you.
People like you are the big disaster for our country you educated people don’t pay your rule in the wealth of our country, you rather waste your time pushing us in stone ages!!! You bring religion to every issue and make it controversial by your behavior.
Please take a while and come out from your negative emotions, we all together only can make this country better. Be well!!!!

dear brother... therez no point in repeating the same Governemt propaganda that is completely full of LIES................................................ if you have anything original then reply or else keep praying for your leader Mushy-the Jewish stooge.................... i hope you realize how you (and seemingly naaive people like you) are being fooled into actually supporting a decietful war that has nothing to do with TERRORISTS or ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HEAR IN THE LYING MEDIA.... and EVERYTHING TO DO WITH KILLING DEVOUT MUSLIMS SO THAT IT LEAVES PAKISTAN COMPLETELY VULNERABLE TO FOREIGN ATTACK AND SUBSEQUENT INVASION......... i repeat THERE IS NO THREAT FROM OUR MUSLIM BROTHERS NOT PART OF THIS 'SECULAR/DEMOCRATIC' GOD-DENYING 'SETUP'............ infact they are the only people because of which Allah has shown mercy on this nation ..... other then them THIS NATION IS DOOMED.......... and i cannot stress more on THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RULE OF LAW ACCORDING TO OUR CONSTITUTION ... AND IT IS OUR CONSTITUTION THAT GUARANTEES THE PROTECTION OF THE RIGHTS OF THIS COUNTRY'S CITIZENS ... AND I MUST REPEAT THAT THIS MURDEROUS OPERATION IS OFCOURSE COMPLETLEY 'ILLEGAL' AND BASED ON FALSE (MADEUP) PRETEXT...........

terraX and jazz_01 you both now can happy again, people you support have killed innocent Pakistanis in Islamabad today. People like you don't know what the reality in our country is; if we don't cut the head of these bas..... they'll continue killing us and destroy us. I personally support my army to wipe out these terrorist, see how they commit suicide attaks in the name of Allaha, does Islam saying to do this? NOOOOOO!!!!!! Please TerraX and Jazz_01 wake up and think about Pakistan, if you continue support these terrorist i must advise you please leave our country and if you are already out please don't come we don't want more Islamist like you.

P.S: TerraX Musshy is your sleeping partner not mine, please read the comments above before you post your own. Be well.

I still cannot understand the blind support of these sick perverted a$$wipes by the ppl of our country. Specially after an event like today when in islamabd, so many innocent ppl died in the blast.
I do not want to discuss this any further, just request all the ppl supporing these ppl to look themselves in the mirror and finaly decide who's side are they on? The true islam, or these perverted fuc*s who are commiting hedious crimes in the name of it.

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

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Bara operation is ill-designed n it'll further aggravte the situation, army chief should not be empowered to take such a decision of national importance, like deployment of troops. MOREOVER Rehman malik has not that much ability to run the affairs of pakistan he could run FIA how come he be trusted with this gigantic task.

pamada wrote:

terraX and jazz_01 you both now can happy again, people you support have killed innocent Pakistanis in Islamabad today. People like you don't know what the reality in our country is; if we don't cut the head of these bas..... they'll continue killing us and destroy us. I personally support my army to wipe out these terrorist, see how they commit suicide attaks in the name of Allaha, does Islam saying to do this? NOOOOOO!!!!!! Please TerraX and Jazz_01 wake up and think about Pakistan, if you continue support these terrorist i must advise you please leave our country and if you are already out please don't come we don't want more Islamist like you.

P.S: TerraX Musshy is your sleeping partner not mine, please read the comments above before you post your own. Be well.

[FIRST OF ALL PLEASE DONOT DISOWN YOUR 'MASTER'.. don't leave him alone.. or maybe he has become such a liability that associating with him will undermine your own credibility ... PLZ DON'T CUT AND RUN.. anyway you people are like that no permanent friends and no permanent foes... ]

secondly, you seem to be in such a hurry in you replies.. you can't even spell ALLAH (swt) correctly... why is that so..?

thirdly, the incident you are referring to has ALL THE HALLMARKS OF ANOTHER STAGED (FALSE-FLAG) OPERATION... anyway your consumer-oriented spoon-fed brains won't understand things like these.. why bother to use your own brains when information is easily available through the mouths of ABDUREHMAN MALIK or people like SHERRY REHMAN.... people like you leave the thinking part to the Authorities...

anyway, for people with intact higher intellectual functions than a lab-rat, here is an overview of what FALSE-FLAG are.... :

False Flag Terrorism

"False flag terrorism" occurs when elements within a government stage a secret operation whereby government forces pretend to be a targeted enemy while attacking their own forces or people. The attack is then falsely blamed on the enemy in order to justify going to war against that enemy. Or as Wikipedia defines it:

False flag operations are covert operations conducted by governments, corporations, or other organizations, which are designed to appear as if they are being carried out by other entities. The name is derived from the military concept of flying false colors; that is, flying the flag of a country other than one's own. False flag operations are not limited to war and counter-insurgency operations, and have been used in peace-time; for example, during Italy's strategy of tension.

The term comes from the old days of wooden ships, when one ship would hang the flag of its enemy before attacking another ship in its own navy. Because the enemy's flag was hung instead of the flag of the real country of the attacking ship, it was called a "false flag" attack.

There are many examples of false flag attacks through history. For example, it is widely known that the Nazis, in Operation Himmler, faked attacks on their own people and resources which they blamed on the Poles, to justify the invasion of Poland. And it has now been persuasively argued — as shown, for example, in this History Channel video — that Nazis set fire to their own parliament, the Reichstag, and blamed that fire on others. The Reichstag fire was the watershed event which justified Hitler's seizure of power and suspension of liberties.

And in the early 1950s, agents of an Israeli terrorist cell operating in Egypt planted bombs in several buildings, including U.S. diplomatic facilities, then left behind "evidence" implicating the Arabs as the culprits (one of the bombs detonated prematurely, allowing the Egyptians to identify the bombers). Israel's Defense Minister was brought down by the scandal, along with the entire Israeli government. Click here for verification.

The Russian KGB apparently conducted a wave of bombings in Russia in order to justify war against Chechnya and put Vladimir Putin into power (see also this short essay and this report). And the Turkish government has been caught bombing its own and blaming it on a rebel group in order to justify a crackdown on that group. Muslim governments also play this game. For example, the well-respected former Indonesian president claimed that their government had a role in the Bali bombings.

This sounds nuts, right? You've never heard of this "false flag terrorism," where a government attacks its own people then blames others in order to justify its goals, right? And you are skeptical of the statements discussed above? Please take a look at these historical quotes:

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." - U.S. President James Madison

Why of course the people don't want war ... But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship ... Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." - Hermann Goering, Nazi leader.

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Our country is, no doubt ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF PAKISTAN. Any body who wants to interpret "Islamic" as "non Islamic" is fool.

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When this is Islamic Republic then it should be Islamic, not American Republic. We should follow Islamic Laws.

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In Islam Capital punishment is only allowed to three cases, a) death for the person who killed another person. b) The person who commit adultery. c) Who was Muslim and turned to non Muslim. In any other case there is punishment but not Capital Punishment.

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What prost**ts are doing. Adultery or prayer? The people who want to stop them, even by force, still not killing them. What you want to call them. Brothers or enemy.

Who should be killed Prost--ts or the stopping people?

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Islamic Republic should protect Pros--ts or common people? The government who kills people because they disturbed the Prost--ts, can we call it Islamic? If Islam allow Prost--tion, why we should not follow it in our homes?

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If Islam is stone age, why we are Islamic Republic. We should define our new religion to ENLIGHTENED MODERATION. Which will allow modern an progressive home ladies to roam around without cloths. this will be modern age not the stone age.

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How many murders were done by the girls of Jamia Hafsa? Why they were killed. Only occupying their own compound with the help of bamboo sticks cannot be called Ghaddari. Did they changed their religion from Islam to Kufr?

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Any person who burns CDs or any commodity, even stolen from the shop, does not deserve Capital punishment.

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Capital punishment should be decided by Islamic or un-Islamic Court of Law. This power is not given to any other person or institution or president. Even this power was not given to the Islamic Lashkar in Rasoolullah (SAW) time.

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We are exactly following the way which America followed to invade Iraq. Iraq war was to destroy WMD. If WMDs not found there is still no problem because during search of WMDs lot of people were killed. Their relatives now became angry terrorists. Therefore it is very important to kill these terrorists.

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The most powerful, most wealthy and the only super power of the world, in 5 years, is not able to control Taliban by force. It is not secret now that they are doing dialogue with them through mediators.

Do we have more resources to do the same but more than that? Can we hope that we will be successful in few years?

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What will happen to already starving people? Will a father not kill himself for few Rupees to provide two times food for his starving children for few years, and blow himself in a Masjid, in a Police station, in Government building or in a rally. No matter he is wrong or right. No matter he is killing innocent or non-innocent people. For him there are no values.

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Will killing the people make them loving to the killers.

STARVING NATIONS ARE KILLER NATIONS IN THE WORLD.

I pray from Allah for right path.

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Allahoakbar

The name "Islamic republic" was not given to pakistan untill 1973 constitution, and that was only to shut the mullahs up.

Pakistan was made for the muslims of India, but was never meant to be a theocracy as you would have us believe. I can give you atleast 10 quotes from Qaid-e-Azam mentioning the same thing. Infact at its creation, these same mullas were against its very creation and today they claim it to be thiers to run whichever way they wanna run it..

Agar itna hi pyar hai tou why dont u cross the border of afghanistan and bring about ure so-called revolution with the animals u call taliban and stay there.

Changing our text books to the convenience and beliefs of whoever was ruling at wutever time has turned us into a confused nation. Its almost like all of Us were kafir be4 Zia took over.

Open up ure eyez and have the balls to face the truth. Stop reading the same old propoganda that they are teaching you wherever da heck ure reading it and is being taught.

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

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	The name "Islamic republic" was not given to pakistan untill 1973 constitution, and that was only to shut the mullahs up.

Are you against 1973 Constitution. Why? It was not made by mullahs. It is still a wonderful document to follow. Probably you are the only person against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

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	Pakistan was made for the muslims of India, but was never meant to be a theocracy as you would have us believe. I can give you atleast 10 quotes from Qaid-e-Azam mentioning the same thing.

It does not mean that you kill Muslims in Pakistan and protect only American interests.

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	Agar itna hi pyar hai tou why dont u cross the border of afghanistan and bring about ure so-called revolution with the animals u call taliban and stay there.

Who is calling Taliban? you are killing normal people indiscriminately and making new taliban yourself.

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	Changing our text books to the convenience and beliefs of whoever was ruling at wutever time has turned us into a confused nation. Its almost like all of Us were kafir be4 Zia took over.

Who is supporting Zia (Who first broke the 1973 Constitution) by negating 1973 constitution, you or me? Apne gareban men jhankiye. Supporter of dictators.

I ask, why you are killing people who never killed any body, Never commit adultery, Never turned from Islam?

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Allahoakbar

man! great debate going on in here.

Dr. HAM wrote:

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	The name "Islamic republic" was not given to pakistan untill 1973 constitution, and that was only to shut the mullahs up.

Are you against 1973 Constitution. Why? It was not made by mullahs. It is still a wonderful document to follow. Probably you are the only person against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

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	Pakistan was made for the muslims of India, but was never meant to be a theocracy as you would have us believe. I can give you atleast 10 quotes from Qaid-e-Azam mentioning the same thing.

It does not mean that you kill Muslims in Pakistan and protect only American interests.

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	Agar itna hi pyar hai tou why dont u cross the border of afghanistan and bring about ure so-called revolution with the animals u call taliban and stay there.

Who is calling Taliban? you are killing normal people indiscriminately and making new taliban yourself.

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	Changing our text books to the convenience and beliefs of whoever was ruling at wutever time has turned us into a confused nation. Its almost like all of Us were kafir be4 Zia took over.

Who is supporting Zia (Who first broke the 1973 Constitution) by negating 1973 constitution, you or me? Apne gareban men jhankiye. Supporter of dictators.

I ask, why you are killing people who never killed any body, Never commit adultery, Never turned from Islam?

1. I'm not against thhe 1973 constitution, maybe u need reading lessons 'se never in my post anywhere i mentioned i was against the constitution. I was merely stating the fact that the name "islamic republic" was only given to pakistan then to shut the mullas like u up. You wanna restore the constitution, lets restore it to its original form and not the joke that it is now after so many alterations made merely to please certain ppl.

2. No is trying to kill innocent ppl, hope is to get rid of radical pethetic a$$wipes from the society who bank on hate and trying to spread it all over the country. Stop using the same sorry a$$ excuse of america and jews, no1 in Pakistan today gives a flying fu** about the united states or its interest, but that is wut u would have ppl believe because its easier to make an a$$ out of ppl if u say that.

3. Dont worry about making new talibans and inshallah common sense will prevail and we will rid our society and country from the likes of these ba&tards soon who's ammo seems to be to fool the ppl of pakistan in believing that any belief besides thiers is america's will for u. People eventually will see right through ure bulls$itt and truth shall set us all free sooner or later.

4. i've made that very clear that no dictator should ever rule a country so ure argument that i support any dictator does not hold water, every country should be run by the will of its people and PPL of pakistan are not az narrow minded or pethetic as u or the rest of the a$$wipe mullahs who are preaching hate.

5. You talk about killing innocent ppl, let me ask u, how many americans have u killed inside pakistan ever since the war in afghanistan started?? Only blood u see on the streets is innocent pakistani blood, The only ppl you are killing are innocent Pakistanis but u would have ppl believe that its jihad.

6. If ure jacka$$ osama was really not guilty of anything then why not face the truth and face it like a man instead of running and hiding like a little bit*h? why was it nessecery for hundreds of thousands of ppl in afghanistan to die for 1 man? Is one man's life really that precious??? all the blood that has been shed in the name of that a$$hole is on his head, and his head alone.

I know that your kind is really good at making ppl believe that root of all evil is anything and everything besides ureself, but that cannot be further from the truth.

Enjoy these days as much as u can because eventually, You will get ures too.
Inshallah.

Pakistan paindabad.

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpAL8AZs8NE

You all are victims of media

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI20w41q7v8

	ugwaraich wrote:
	man! great debate going on in here.

feel free to jump in usman.

I know i'm probably going to regret saying that, but its fun arguing with ya. Wink

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"You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.

pamada wrote:

	jazz_01 wrote:
	To pamada: "I called them 100 and millions time a terrorist who killed innocent Pakistanis" It means Musharraf ordered killing of innocent FATA ppl he is what? MQM killed ppl on shahrahefaisal who are they? best regards

People on this forum know English very well and what I wrote is understandable to everyone, I’ll appreciate if you share some positive comments rather than translating our comments in your own way.

Who are the enemies of us and who are the terrorist in our country is very well known to each of us but the difference is that we see it from different angles, but we all are right from our side.!!!!

What you do when you have a mental Dog in your house you kill yes because there is no chance to bring this Dog to a normal life and let him alive is the risk for the people around.

The same our army is doing, they are going to wipe out the mentally ill and misguided people out of our tribal area Tribal land is for our Tribal people lived in peace always but not for the the terrorist from Afghanistan, let these terroris junkies live in Afghanistan, we have nothing to do with this merciless country who have forgotten that Pakistan was the only country who help them to survive during Russian egression, we welcome there people as our own brother and sisters and in the gift they send their terrorist in to our country and started misguiding our innocent tribal brother and sister, more ever there Dolly president now call Pakistanis a terrorist. Its shame for us and Paki Army has fully right to protect the dignity of our nation. If some corrupted generals have spoiled the image of army it’s there problem, our Javans have nothing to do with them. No general who captured power had the good end of his life look in the past please. Be well.

If Army is killing mad dogs, then atleast me and yourself are dogs too probably if not mad though.

But the truth is neither you are a dog and nor the people being operated in Barah are dogs, at-least they are not for sure. Anyway, you cannot stop suicide bombings by aggravating the stuff. It requires a fundamental change in society which comes through a transition not by killing innocent people.

How many terrorist people Pakistan Army arrested during the operation the answer is zero. The so called Lashkare Islam what Army is claiming has arrested is just rediculous. Like Lashkare Islam Pakistan has many lashkars in Lahore, Karachi, Jhang and every where.

did you hear any suicide attempt before military operation? Everything was going fine, the moment that Richard Bowcher came to Pakistan the Military operation was launched and soon after there was a suicide attack.

There are many powers who do not want to see a peaceful Pakistan. But unfortunately our leadership is so weak and so in the hands of USA that they are unable to take any positive action for Pakistan. Do you think that leaders do not want to negotiate with Talibans, they do want and they know there is a peaceful solution, but the powers are insisting our leaders to find un-peaceful solution. they do not care if there is a blast in Pakistan.

TV ONE REPORTS THAT ACCORDING TO SEVERAL CIVILIAN AND SOME POLICE OFFICERS WITNESS TO THE INCIDENT... "THERE WAS NO SUICIDE BOMBER ANYWHERE NEAR.... INFACT AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICE WAS PERHAPS LOBBED ONTO THE UNSUSPECTING CROWD FROM A PICKUP TRUCK.................... IT WAS NOT A "SUICIDE ATTACK"!!!!

I personally think that there is no Muslim(definition of Muslim in the real theology of Islam) to kill any innocent people or commit a suicide attack against his fellow humanbeing(not only Muslim).All which is happening is a manipulated one,untill now there is no confirm evidences that who is responsible for all that.Only we hear that head of all suicidel bombers are found,why untill now any investigations have been brought in front of the people or atleast media.We should not forget that through DNA test with 99.99 probability we can find out who the bomber or the crimal were.Most of these Lashkers are created & supported by the influencial officials,agencies & those in power eg.Mangal bagh is 100% pro establishment.We all knows behind all these are secret hands of RAW,MOSAD & CIA,naturally with the collaboration of local people mostly bought,manipulated or brainwashed.Anyone even non Muslims knows that in the Quran verses it is clearly said (near meaning) "to kill one innocent humanbeing is like killing whole humanity" so how can someone missinterpret or say something out of text,wrongly about Islam.I wrote this before that give me in the present history one example when a Mslim country has invaded or attacked even a non Muslim country.Muslims are attacked & invaded & they are fighting for their existence,which is allowed in every religion for this matter.Why we are confusing the things were there any suicide bombing existing in Iraq Or Afghanistan or for that matter in any Muslim country(Only Hisbullahs against Israeel,because no way left for Palestinians to defend their right of existing) before 9/11 exept in Ireland,Srilanka & India,that time no one come with the lables or terms Christian Or Hindu fundamentalists etc.Question arise that the people in Iraq (Very moderate & educated Muslims) Afghanistan & in Pakistan turn suddenly mad,fanatics or fundamentalists,is it rational? or all these are the repercussions of the declared war against Muslims & Islam,the tactics they are using is to create some enemy pictures or figures p retend to follow them in the countries & areas where their financial & strategig interests lyes.Why they don,t send troops to many Chrystian populated war torn or facing civil war situation in Africa & other continents,why their interest is only in Afghanistan,Iraq,Iran & Pakistan.How can some Muslims are so naives to give them right or accept their version of a stories & get influenced by their propaganda,if it is so we don,t need any enemy.We all are against violence & terrorism no matter in which shape eg.Individuals,groups or state terrorism.We as a Muslims condemn that loudly in the light of Islamic teaching.But in the meantime I request not to be superficial & think deep about the intentions behind all this.Are we not asking ourselves & invaders what they have changed In Iraq & Afghanistan,were the both country better off before their invasions or after?The hate between Muslims & non Muslims increased Or decreased before & after.In the end I will ask those calling (Without conviction) others dogs, to have a moral courrage to condemn all American,Israeel & India intervention in Muslim countries & areas.They should also loudly call American,Israeel & Indian occupiers (who are killing,discriminating,dissgracing & humiliating Muslims in their own countries) Dogs,if they don,t do so they are worst than dogs therselves & will be hated by all the Muslims the same way they hate their enemies of their belief.They should also open their mouth on incidents & crimes against humanity eg.Abou Gharaib,Gontanamo,Afghanistan(Only one incident is enough covered by European media,burrying of more than 3000 Talibans alive in the ground)Palestine (Killing of innocent children,youth,Women & even people in Wheel chairs) Kashmir (genocide of Kashmiris are not hidden fact)etc.

THEREZ IS NO ..... I REPEAT NO 'SUICIDE' BOMBING .................................... ALMOST 99.99% OF THESE M.T.A.S.B. [MADE TO APPEAR SUICIDE BOMBINGS] CAN BE PROVED TO BE FAKED/STAGED EVENTS BY AN 8TH GRADER WITH A <70 IQ FROM THE MEDIA COVERAGE AND THE REACTION OF THE GOVERNEMT SOURCES WITHIN 15 MINUTES AT MOST..................................... [no real investigations ever take place.. e.g. BBs assassination, 9/11, 7/7, madrid bombings, FIA building bombing in Lahore (infact the news of murder of driver of the truck that was used in the crime in police custody was never allowed more than 30 seconds on all major news channels) .. and now the TV ONE NEWS that according to several witness accounts including a police officer .. THE MOST RECENT BOMBING WAS INFACT NOT A 'SUICIDE' ATTACK BUT RATHER AN EXPLOSIVE DEVICE WAS LOBBED ONTO THE CROWD OF POLICE OFFICERS FROM A 'WHITE SUZUKI PICK-UP VAN' , was completely IGNORED by ALL MAINSTREAM NEWS GEO ARY etc...

i repeat they are ALL MTASB to FRAME "ISLAM" and then KILL "DEVOUT MUSLIMS WHO HAVE NOTHING TO DO ANY CRIME WHAT SO EVER..... they need these EVENTS TO PERPETUATE THE SOCALLED WAR ON TERROR [inreality WAR ON ISLAM]..... THEY ARE MANUFACTURING THESE TRAGIC EVENTS ............. this is SYNTHETIC TERROR..

[if you are interested in detailed study of FALSE-FLAG operations.. GOOGLE "OPERATION GLADIO" .. or read this incredible book easily downloadable from:

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	P.S: TerraX Musshy is your sleeping partner not mine, please read the comments above before you post your own. Be well.

Just to clarify, I'm not a sleeping partner of TerraX or Pamada lol Razz

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Is it less of a crime if it is not a suicide bombing?

Or is that supposed to be proof that extremists didn't do it? We all know the extremists have many ways to kill, not just suicide bombings. So far it is not known who did it, but reaching for foreign conspiracies to protect extremists means nothing.

Why in every bombing we are blaming extremists or Muslims its just a rediculous.

I think the biggest problem of us is that we throw everything on what we think is right. Forgodsake first mend urself and then try to accuse others.

best regards

	jazz_01 wrote:
	Why in every bombing we are blaming extremists or Muslims its just a rediculous. I think the biggest problem of us is that we throw everything on what we think is right. Forgodsake first mend urself and then try to accuse others. best regards

the answer is pretty simple.............. and it is EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHY THE US MEDIA IS ALWAYS NEGATIVE AND OUTRIGHT HOSTILE TOWARDS ANYTHING 'ISLAMIC.......................

THEIR MEDIA HAS ALWAYS BEEN 'ZIONIST CONTROLLED................. AND SADLY NOW OUR MEDIA HAS TOO BECOME 'ZIONIST CONTROLLED.....

terraX it doesn,t bring anything to discuss with those having eyes but blind,having ears but deaf & heart become stamped.The double standard of west we all know & I am interracting with a lot of people in Europe therefore practically knows how they are brainwashed through the zionist influenced media.But it is pitty that our people do think like westerns n ot aware of the facts,missleaded by the "Inlightened Moderates",too subjective.I you & everyone knows about the true teaching of Islam condemn killing of any human,any kind of violence & terrorism.But their negative propaganda is only against Islam.With the same force do they condemn suicid bombing in Srilanka,Ireland,Spain etc or blaming it on their religions,the answer is in negative shows their hostile intentions against Muslims.But irony of their faith is that the more they are blaming Islam,the more it is spreading all over the world.Wheras ethnicity belong the Talibaans are 99% pashtoons but we all pashtoons reject & condemn all their inhuman activities,radcalism & distance ourselves from them.But is it possible all these socalled developed (Although mentally retarded) nations & other non Muslim countries to distance theirselves from all kind of a State terrorism against innocent Muslims.They don,t have moral courrage or good intentions to do so.Take the example of their adopted child Israeel which is involved in every kind of a state terrorism & involve in Muslims genocide,so is Indian & USA.All these influenced people should know if we Muslim give up our resistence against these enemies of us,there will be no place left for us to even stand on & it is their object to achieve.Our own Muslims speak the language of these enemies whereas a layman in west even know about the 9/11 incident,by whom & how it was planned.There are a lot of books here in Germany available to reveal the intentions behind 9/11 & all that is happening as a repecussions of these brutal invasion against ISLAM.It is a popen secret who & why all these suicidal bombings are taking place.Don,t we know our own society & people of our own country that we doubting them to be turned lunatics,fanatics & fundamentalists at once?Inspite of countring their negative propaganda we are helping sometime intentionally for our wested interests & mosly due to our ignorance,being far from religion,influenced fro west & western media & lack of Imaan.It is also wrong that Pakistan were created for Indian Muslims we Pashtoons & balochis were never Indians we have joined Pakistan on our own wish & will.We have defeated Brittishers & Russian & Inshah Allah we will defeat every invaders provided we don,t leave the real Path of Islam.Inshah Allah no one can break Pakistan all these suffering are making us stronger & it is majorly due to our deeds(Ahmaal).We will never do any inhuman acts like our enemies,we will defeat them with our faith,knowledge & determination.Inshah Allah all the vicious & the hostile intentions of our enemies(Insider or Outsider) will be burried.
"Qatale HUSSAIN asal me marg e Yazeed he----Islam zinda hotha he har Karbala ke baad.All these Yahood,Hanood,nussarahs & their followers are yazeedis & true Muslims are HUSSAINIS.

terraX it doesn,t bring anything to discuss with those having eyes but blind,having ears but deaf & heart become stamped.The double standard of west we all know & I am interracting with a lot of people in Europe therefore practically knows how they are brainwashed through the zionist influenced media.But it is pitty that our people do think like westerns n ot aware of the facts,missleaded by the "Inlightened Moderates",too subjective.I you & everyone knows about the true teaching of Islam condemn killing of any human,any kind of violence & terrorism.But their negative propaganda is only against Islam.With the same force do they condemn suicid bombing in Srilanka,Ireland,Spain etc or blaming it on their religions,the answer is in negative shows their hostile intentions against Muslims.But irony of their faith is that the more they are blaming Islam,the more it is spreading all over the world.Wheras ethnicity belong the Talibaans are 99% pashtoons but we all pashtoons reject & condemn all their inhuman activities,radcalism & distance ourselves from them.But is it possible all these socalled developed (Although mentally retarded) nations & other non Muslim countries to distance theirselves from all kind of a State terrorism against innocent Muslims.They don,t have moral courrage or good intentions to do so.Take the example of their adopted child Israeel which is involved in every kind of a state terrorism & involve in Muslims genocide,so is Indian & USA.All these influenced people should know if we Muslim give up our resistence against these enemies of us,there will be no place left for us to even stand on & it is their object to achieve.Our own Muslims speak the language of these enemies whereas a layman in west even know about the 9/11 incident,by whom & how it was planned.There are a lot of books here in Germany available to reveal the intentions behind 9/11 & all that is happening as a repecussions of these brutal invasion against ISLAM.It is a popen secret who & why all these suicidal bombings are taking place.Don,t we know our own society & people of our own country that we doubting them to be turned lunatics,fanatics & fundamentalists at once?Inspite of countring their negative propaganda we are helping sometime intentionally for our wested interests & mosly due to our ignorance,being far from religion,influenced fro west & western media & lack of Imaan.It is also wrong that Pakistan were created for Indian Muslims we Pashtoons & balochis were never Indians we have joined Pakistan on our own wish & will.We have defeated Brittishers & Russian & Inshah Allah we will defeat every invaders provided we don,t leave the real Path of Islam.Inshah Allah no one can break Pakistan all these suffering are making us stronger & it is majorly due to our deeds(Ahmaal).We will never do any inhuman acts like our enemies,we will defeat them with our faith,knowledge & determination.Inshah Allah all the vicious & the hostile intentions of our enemies(Insider or Outsider) will be burried.
"Qatale HUSSAIN asal me marg e Yazeed he----Islam zinda hotha he har Karbala ke baad.All these Yahood,Hanood,nussarahs & their followers are yazeedis & true Muslims are HUSSAINIS.