mushraf farm house pics in chak shahzad

Let me just say that your posts are sub-standard and you DONOT deserve that the light be shown to you because you are just an ignorant and arrogant MQM jahil supporter who would try to demonise our heros like Imran Khan just based on his truthfulness and boldness against MQM. So, keep uttering, no replies for you anymore!

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tufail_74 wrote:

corruption of musharraf is just a statement in the air by ugwaraich.
if he is right he should present proofs or keep quiettttttttttttttttt.

he is just opposing musharraf for no logical and solid reason.

i think he should himself hire or ask his favourite nawaz ( the biggest looser so far not a nominal leader ) to do so to find out cases against musharraf.

it is clear the armed forces r much more loyal to pakistan than these corrupt ( decided by courts not me..) politicians as they are more happy to get martyred for pakistan than these ppl.
i am muslim leaguer but praisse bhtuuo for getting dies for his own honour. nawaz even did not have enuf courage and was very happy while boarding the plane.

leaders lead ppl not leave them.

tufail, time will prove whether I am throwing a statement in the air. I am not proving anything to people here.

I am only saying that Pakistan received round about $20 billion dollar from america; I dont see those $20 billion dollars being spent anywhere in FATA or NWFP do you? Moreoever, as I posted earlier the program recording "Merey Mutabiq" in which retd general jamshed kiyani (who was the eye witness)explained the corruptions by musharraf and shaukat aziz. I am only saying that we should wait and see that once this government is free from other issues like judges restoration and operation in FATA this govt. will come up with all allegations and proofs against musharraf and all the corruptions will be revealed; although I strongly believe that this government itself is corrupt and I also believe that zardari and musharraf are equally corrupt; additionally musharraf is a QATIL of our own people. I know I am repeating it over and over again; only because you guys are not trying to understand my point that "why me or other people call him a QATIL?";

I was not against our armed forces I was probably the most proud person of our armed forces which gave me inspirations, but after what happened in Lal masjid and what is happening now in Bajaur that they are killing innocent people, children, women and men, and actually not many talibans have been killed until now just to make USA happy is the biggest stupidity in the history of Pakistan. This is not the way to counter terrorism, it is an ideological war it can never ever ever be won by weapons, the only way we can win this war is to change the ideologies of people and dont shed blood of innocent children and women(if you dont agree that innocent people have been killed in bajaur then go watch Capital talk of 26th of August, 2008).

I was also not against bhutto, he was in fact a bold and sensible leader of Pakistan BUT his stupidities in separation of east Pakistan with West Pakistan, because of his stubborness and hunger for power; he deserved the end he met; there is no other punishment for a leader if because of his stubborness you loose a big part of your country, as east Pakstan deserved more power as they had more seats in parliament and they should have been allowed to make their govt.. Its a long debate anyway.

Secondly if nawaz was hanged in 1999, then you will not have any leader (although corrupt or gunda or whatever) I must say you will not have any other leader in this country, adn there would be a vaccum in our country#s politics and our people would have been left with only one option and that is Zardari. so just imagine if there is no Nawaz league, there is only PPP, Q league which I am sure everyone agrees that the most corrupt parties. I donot support nawaz, I only support nawaz because we donot have any other leader, and I am only supporting him in current situation only because I think he is better than zardari and musharraf atleast he didnt kill people in his past govt. he was honest with nation, his subordinates or himiself might have been corrupt but he didnt kill people blindly like musharraf; LET ALONE KILLING PEOPLE JUST SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO DR AFIA AND HER SONS?????? COULD YOU TELL ME WHO WAS IN CONTROL AND WHO SOLD DR. AFIA TO FBI??? NONE OF US PAKISTANIS HAVE SEEN OUR SISTERS, DAUGHTERS AND MOTHERS BEEN SOLD TO OTHER COUNTRIES BEFORE MUSHARRAF I DONT CARE ABOUT CORRUPTION, I DONT CARE IF NAWAZ DOES CORRUPTION THE FIRST PRIORITY IS MY HONOUR, MY HONOUR IS MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR ME NOT MY MONEY, IN MY OPINION A THIEF IS BETTER THAN A RAPIST/BROTHEL MASTER. MUSHARRAF IS THE ONE WHO SOLD OUR HONOUR AND RESPECT, NAWAZ IS PROBABLY THE THIEF, BUT I WILL PREFER THIEF OVER A PERSON WHO SELLS MY HONOUR AND RESPECT BECAUSE I DONT HAVE ANY BETTER CHOICE ; nawaz asked and did jalsay all over Pakistan before testing nuclear weapons jsut to get the feedback of people and get their support everyone knows that our country was on verge of breaking war with india, but he took our people along with him; he got support of all Pakistani nation as he could see that there willl be sanctions we will have to face and our economy will deteriorate even then all the nation was behind nawaz; but on the other hand musharraf did not ask any single person in govt. or PAksitani national before doing operation in FATA WHY? he should have gone out of his palace and asked people for their support against terrorists in FATA and he should have done jalsay and rallies to get the support of people but he only listened to his masters in white house and did whatever they wanted him to do; so musharraf thats why did not have any credibility; this is just one of the reasons that explains us why nawaz is better than musharraf!!!!, the day we see a better leader than nawaz, I will start supporting him the problem is we dont have any better leaders than nawaz like I said we only had three options until now 1) musharraf 2) zardari 3) nawaz, I think nawaz is beter than other choices if you have a 4th better option I will go for it, I support imran but he wasnt in the elections of 2008. now you have to choose between 1) zardari 2) nawaz. and I am sure vwise people wont go for zardari. choice is yours; try to solve these issues analytically

I hope that answers confusions raised by your post!

	SHUMULUSUYING wrote:
	you are so sensible to your politic , i do not think that we are smarter than political leaders . you should just have faith to your country . as a normal people you cannot decide anything , what my brothers should do is do your own jop well . best wishes to your country .

You might say this for your country but not for us.We are sensitive because we see that disaster is coming.These are polititions(Socalled & self claimed) but not leaders of the nation.We are normal people there4 we are patriot,loyal & not corrupt whereas they all are abnormal specially presidential candidate (Choroh Ka Zardar) Zardari have proof of his abnormality(Which he presented in the court abroad).you are saying the otherway round,the normal people can decide & the abnormal not.We are more intelligent than them but they are oversmart ,cunning,ruthless & devious.Our job is to aware our nation about their criminal mentality.Best wishes to you & your country.

but its look like that its not complete yet ? Rolling Eyes

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Pervez Bhai Pakistani ki waat laga kar tum farm house main reh rahee hoo....kiya baat. abb tou tumhay bolna chaiyeh

Pehley Farm House, always first Farm House!!

It is a good habbit to look into rear-view mirror but you can not drive by just looking in rear-view mirror. Therefore, we need to focus in front, look what is coming and it might be Zardari..............................,

I am sure, mark my words, in very near future you are going to look in to this rear-view mirror and say that those were better days than what we have now.

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Respect All
Long Live Pakistan
In the end All praises are due to Lord

He have many houses
He even have big house in chicago and also in turkey

	ali wrote:
	bring Imran khan into power! and I think we are doing some serious and sensible discussion here better keep your childish ideas out of this topic if you dont have anything sensible to talk

MR! Imran is surely a sensible and good guy but by using little bit of mind one can easily understand that sensibility and politics are two entirely different things. Zardari is a good politician but not true to his citizens by any means. And if u wanna make good and sensible guys our leaders than there is a never ending list of ppl in Pak, on the top is Abdul Sattar Edhi.

Talking of childish ideas i would like to mention one of ur REVOLUTIONS idea!! i think this is the most childish idea. There is no Mel Gibson of brave heart who will bring revolution for you. You are not living in 1800's.. Start from yourself, view the world with positive vision and do something productive. Blaming one blaming another will do no good to Pakistan, which i think should be the first priority!

The problem with our people is they always want change, first happy with musharaff, then elected Zardari and then now want Imran and who knows what in future, but off course the idea of evolution will always be there, old habits are impossible to change Very Happy

. They just want something which they can discuss in their lunch breaks in office or family dinners or with neighborhood. Its a drama, and ppl are sitting on their ___ watching this topi drama and hoping for supernatural things. This is all entertainment.. ENJOY!! Sad

The topic is the Musharraf house in chuk Shehzad I will say that:"HATHI KE DANTH KHANE KE AUR AUR DIKHANE KE AUR".

MQM were never a Pakistan loyal party because supported & assisted by the "RAW" & "MOSAD",they cause economic problems in the country.Their followers are really naives & brainwashed by the Altaf Hussain who is enjoying abroad,already due to his complexes have taken British nationality & having his frontmen here in Pakistan.They always deny but their all efforts are to be the part of govt,the main reason is wealth & power greed.They are the best extorters & black mailers.They are oppertunists,they can create situations to put weight on the rulling side only for their wested interests.Their leaders are claiming to be from the Middle class (Which in fact most our politions are but no more they have accumilated fortune through the corruptions) but theirselves they become filthy rich.They play the role of "MADARIS"(JUGGLERS) which always collect people with the soound of their "DUGDUGI".Can the followers of ttheir party the ordinary Masses can give me an answer,which changes MQM brought in their lives?.They are day by day getting more ethnic schavenists & think more as a "MUHAJIRS" than Pakistani,which is not correct.We no matter belongs to which province or ethnic group our identity is Pakistan 6 should be Pakistani nothing else.By changing name of their than created Party or movement become their trade mark.