Musharraf; you will be missed!

atleast not corrupt or 10 %

But were responsible to bring them back in power.A signatory & a culprit of the NRO which have costed this nation not only billions but pushed them in this miserable situation.we are too naives to know who our exploiters are.Were that Musharrafs father property or wealth which he has given or left to Zardari & Benazir.Think rationaly!!

Um agree wid RAkhan and cool minded, bcz now ppl will see what the current govt. show these statistics and will these be higher or lower.

	inayat khan qazi wrote:
	But were responsible to bring them back in power.A signatory & a culprit of the NRO which have costed this nation not only billions but pushed them in this miserable situation.we are too naives to know who our exploiters are.Were that Musharrafs father property or wealth which he has given or left to Zardari & Benazir.Think rationaly!!

Why didn't our courts and ex-CJP Ifitikhar settle those cases under his chairman ship? Why weren't verdicts passed on those cases even after 15-20 years? Why didn't our courts recover the wealth?

Think rationally! Cases which our courts and international courts failed to settle for the last 20 years, meant they were made to victimize and for political vendetta. NRO was an attempt to move on and disolve cases of political vendetta - that even our courts could not prove.

Lastly, even through the NRO the cases could not be disolved automatically. They have to get cleared through courts.

But, the think is that our Feudals don't need NRO to benefit themselves .... all they need is a corrupt bribed judge and bribed policeman.... and there go their cases!

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Points on NRO :

1. Nawaz Sharif in initial points of the “Charter of Democracy” with the PPP apologized and accepted that in his tenure; he created false cases against Benazir to pressurize, blackmail and victimize her politically. Nawaz APOLOGIZED in written!

2. When a former Prime Minister of PAK accepts in writing and signs that document as evidence, in front of dozens of eye-witnesses and media; which court of law in the world will reject it?

3. MEANING most of the cases made in his tenure against Benazir, and similarly cases made in Benazir’s tenure against Nawaz were created out of political vendetta in retaliation and to malign each other.

4. Now under this Ordinance, a Review Board namely the “Ethics Committee” will be constituted. Created on similar pattern to those Ethics Committees in USA. The Review Board will be headed by Retd. Justices and consist of members of Senate & Parliament.

5. Those cases registered b/w 1986 and Sept 1999, and have been going on since 10-15 years; without any proofs or verdicts will be reviewed by the Committee.

6. Both Nawaz and Benazir came to power twice, but failed to prove anything against each other. These cases remain pending in PAK Courts since 10 years. These cases have gone up in Qty in hundreds.

7. The corruption cases against Benazir in Swiss courts or UK and France; cannot be withdrawn. But they can be reviewed by the board to analyze future status; as they have been going on for YEARS without verdicts from those foreign courts.

8. An already convicted person cannot benefit from this Ordinance, contrary to media perception.

9. This Ordinance will prevent registration of politically motivated cases used to malign and blackmail the opposition parties. Will also limit the bureaucracy, agencies and NAB who go beyond their powers.

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hassan123321 wrote:

guys let me tell u musharaf was the best leader after qaide azam and zulfiqar ali bhutto we had. its really sad that he has gone and guys who are talking about lal masgid kargil and judjes well u r not blind it was musharaf who has touched these issues . nobody has courage to do these brave decisions, go in pakistan and look that country it is 1000 % better than 1999 infrastructure like roads etc shopping plasasss telecommunication... media... every department is booming

it is only geo and other tv stations who cries abot ghurbat discusting . i was in pakistan last month and i was surprised everybody was living very nicely but we here in europe listen on tvs that every thing is wrong there it is just media propaganda against the great musharaf.

salam to musharaf

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I agree with you he is in the row of talented leaders of pakistan but unfortunately he has been missused by west and chaudhery brothers & co. He used his power and talent negatively. Thus we can not call him great leader since he has done the slaughter of muslims.

I think he did a lot for the country. Good and Bad <<< sadly.
but he was a president and some do make bad mistakes.
yup i guess he will be missed:(

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	Hawk72505 wrote:
	I think he did a lot for the country. Good and Bad <<< sadly. but he was a president and some do make bad mistakes. yup i guess he will be missed:(

Good Comments!

opinion786 wrote:

Points on NRO :

1. Nawaz Sharif in initial points of the “Charter of Democracy” with the PPP apologized and accepted that in his tenure; he created false cases against Benazir to pressurize, blackmail and victimize her politically. Nawaz APOLOGIZED in written!

2. When a former Prime Minister of PAK accepts in writing and signs that document as evidence, in front of dozens of eye-witnesses and media; which court of law in the world will reject it?

3. MEANING most of the cases made in his tenure against Benazir, and similarly cases made in Benazir’s tenure against Nawaz were created out of political vendetta in retaliation and to malign each other.

4. Now under this Ordinance, a Review Board namely the “Ethics Committee” will be constituted. Created on similar pattern to those Ethics Committees in USA. The Review Board will be headed by Retd. Justices and consist of members of Senate & Parliament.

5. Those cases registered b/w 1986 and Sept 1999, and have been going on since 10-15 years; without any proofs or verdicts will be reviewed by the Committee.

6. Both Nawaz and Benazir came to power twice, but failed to prove anything against each other. These cases remain pending in PAK Courts since 10 years. These cases have gone up in Qty in hundreds.

7. The corruption cases against Benazir in Swiss courts or UK and France; cannot be withdrawn. But they can be reviewed by the board to analyze future status; as they have been going on for YEARS without verdicts from those foreign courts.

8. An already convicted person cannot benefit from this Ordinance, contrary to media perception.

9. This Ordinance will prevent registration of politically motivated cases used to malign and blackmail the opposition parties. Will also limit the bureaucracy, agencies and NAB who go beyond their powers.

But if thats the case then we shouldnt be calling Nawaz,Benazir or Zardari criminals/thugs???

	zainub1998 wrote:
	atleast not corrupt or 10 %

I do not know weather he was 10% or...?
But he got a form house of about 20 kanal (amount about 50 million Rs) in islamabad and about 50 hacter agri land in Bahawalpur. His father was also a govt servant. Can any body tell me a govt. servent can make such big ammount of property at his retirement?

MUSHARAF JAISEY DICTATORS KO AWAAM K SAMNEY JAAB DEANA CHAAEIY K PAKISTAN KO IS DISASTER TAK KYON POHCHAYA,?????

agree totally with your pictu

Mushraf you wasetter than Zardari people will say after some time wait and see

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	Saad Khushal Kiani wrote:
	Mushraf you wasetter than Zardari people will say after some time wait and see

Whatever you are saying may become true in a sense that you see no betterment in the prevailing conditions at this time. I really don't feel that if a person can be on Musharraf side because whatever he has done to this nation is a real disastor. Please don't go for the personalities because he was a big juggler. I could not get how people think he was a honest man. You used the people resources to save your regime and we come up with this argument he was not a 10%. We will have to change our thinking otherwise we will get another Musharraf again soon because we have a different perspective to see the things.

looking from an outsider's prespective, i feel that musharraf was led to do many things that he did not intend to do. Starting from lal masjid, there were more influential forces at work in paksitan than musharraf. Now we can all see where those forces wanted to take the government to ! so, lets all be HAPPY with the thug ZARDARI and his cronies and again follow the party line of GO MUSHARRAF GO.
We all have been fooled. Its way past time that we realised that !

i dont know what means by disaster referred by kardar. if u see many facts and figures were posted in this very thread.
may b disaster is
salary of primray teacher went to 7000 frm 4000
salray of policeman went to 15000
all other govt employees got higher salaries than democratic eras.
with allllll their wrongdoings stock market gradually went upto 17000 mark
foreign reserves stood firmly on 16 billion dollar

if u say lal masjid then that also hav many question. wht abdurashid was doing. he was so brave that he was sending girls in front of him to protect. what a shameless person he was.
he used youngers to bargain another shameless act.

as far war on terror, ppl forget in their emotions that india was much more than happy to offer its land for attacks at that time.

now what ur elected govt has done.
stock is down to 8000

reserves are going down and are at 9billion.

same war on terror goin on.

same other policies goin on. even many of musharraf ppl r in govt now.

so if all has to be same why we changed the govt and lost so much.

we elected ppl like nawaz league who knew on the very first day that they cant sit with ppp but played with nation for 6months and now r in their proper place.

how can nawaz be a leader if he cannot understand the very simple thing that PML and PPP cant sit together but we glorify him as leader.

he is nothing more than a coward who ordered hin own army chief to land in the indian territory. only then army honoured us to land in pakistan.
i need simple answer to my last point frm anyone supporting nawaz.

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	SIMSIM wrote:
	You all will miss him soon, and wish he never resigned, I dont and will never trust current gov........Now musharraf gone, the real "loot mar" will start. God bless musharraf, He was a great leader!!

i agree. dont trust current gov

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musharraf nay mulk ka khazana kab bhara???aap log kab samjhay gaey k musharraf nay kuch bi to nai kya agar mulk ki economy itni hi strong thi to koi bataey ga k shaukat aziz kaha?????/

This nation has a tendency to bring down leaders too good for them , Musharraf was the hope that people were looking for for a long time, but he is no more , and you can already see the effects. I am a Musharraf Supporter for Life no matter what these foolish people say about him.

People who make allegations against him talk with proof let me give you proof of what he did go and see if you have the heart to look http://musharrafsupporters.wordpress.com/

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EhsanAhmad wrote:

This nation has a tendency to bring down leaders too good for them , Musharraf was the hope that people were looking for for a long time, but he is no more , and you can already see the effects. I am a Musharraf Supporter for Life no matter what these foolish people say about him.

People who make allegations against him talk with proof let me give you proof of what he did go and see if you have the heart to look http://musharrafsupporters.wordpress.com/

I m with u, my brother.

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EhsanAhmad wrote:

This nation has a tendency to bring down leaders too good for them , Musharraf was the hope that people were looking for for a long time, but he is no more , and you can already see the effects. I am a Musharraf Supporter for Life no matter what these foolish people say about him.

People who make allegations against him talk with proof let me give you proof of what he did go and see if you have the heart to look http://musharrafsupporters.wordpress.com/

Brother,

Our nation has another tendency which you have ignored. We always go for the personalities and not for the nation. It is why we always make fools, the kings. That is the reason we are standing at zero point since our creation. No body denies your right to like Musharraf but he is the man who is behind all the turmoil in the country. Supporting a man who never cared anything else except to care himself is not digestable. Brother this nation is not going to change. Allah should help us to think logically. Inspite all the power he had he never put this country on the right path. He ruined all the institutions in Pakistan to safeguard himself which he was not able to do in spite of all his efforts. The website you reffered does not reflect in any way the feeling of the whole nation.

@waligenius

u r writing totally opposite to wht ur id is.
if u cant say 17billion dollar was khazana then u should say that u hav no sense of things.

now the democratic govt has brought that to 7.5billion. whatever was the way, musharraf had 17billion and was increasing
ask ur democratic people to keep it there even the way musharraf was doing. they will and can never do as they hav no guts.
they are impotents both zardari & nawaz. just playing politics with people like u. they need u and lot of like u.

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kardar wrote:

EhsanAhmad wrote:

This nation has a tendency to bring down leaders too good for them , Musharraf was the hope that people were looking for for a long time, but he is no more , and you can already see the effects. I am a Musharraf Supporter for Life no matter what these foolish people say about him.

People who make allegations against him talk with proof let me give you proof of what he did go and see if you have the heart to look http://musharrafsupporters.wordpress.com/

Brother,

Our nation has another tendency which you have ignored. We always go for the personalities and not for the nation. It is why we always make fools, the kings. That is the reason we are standing at zero point since our creation. No body denies your right to like Musharraf but he is the man who is behind all the turmoil in the country. Supporting a man who never cared anything else except to care himself is not digestable. Brother this nation is not going to change. Allah should help us to think logically. Inspite all the power he had he never put this country on the right path. He ruined all the institutions in Pakistan to safeguard himself which he was not able to do in spite of all his efforts. The website you reffered does not reflect in any way the feeling of the whole nation.

I fully support Kardar.We as a nation are too naives.We are there4 punished by Allah,we are too far from Islam,giving prefference to the individuals than the nation.We are also by nature corrupt there4 are pleased & rewarded with corrupt leadership.For our personal likes/dislikes,for our petty interests/benefits & for our affiliation with political parties we become selfish & lose the orientation.There4 we didn,t merged as a nation.musharraf was corrupt (Embazled the money send for earthquake victims,sold his people for dollars & put it in his pocket & struck a deal of NRO,for which the consequenses we are bearing as a nation).Did one of you saw him in the private parties,drinking,smoking,dancing & moreover misinterpreting Islam & self claimed difinition of "Enlightened Moderation" which gave a chance to the characterly corrupt people like him to westernise our society.the mushroom growth of "Burgers" Gicky wickeys Desi Angrez exploited our Islamic country,our culture & our social norms.The irony is that we are even surprised that why are going through this disaster & turmoil.Few families of enlightened moderates caused all this damage Aur "GHIYON KE SAATH GHUN BI PIS JHATA HE".We should repent so that Allah save us & our country.

inayat khan qazi wrote:

kardar wrote:

EhsanAhmad wrote:

This nation has a tendency to bring down leaders too good for them , Musharraf was the hope that people were looking for for a long time, but he is no more , and you can already see the effects. I am a Musharraf Supporter for Life no matter what these foolish people say about him.

People who make allegations against him talk with proof let me give you proof of what he did go and see if you have the heart to look http://musharrafsupporters.wordpress.com/

Brother,

Our nation has another tendency which you have ignored. We always go for the personalities and not for the nation. It is why we always make fools, the kings. That is the reason we are standing at zero point since our creation. No body denies your right to like Musharraf but he is the man who is behind all the turmoil in the country. Supporting a man who never cared anything else except to care himself is not digestable. Brother this nation is not going to change. Allah should help us to think logically. Inspite all the power he had he never put this country on the right path. He ruined all the institutions in Pakistan to safeguard himself which he was not able to do in spite of all his efforts. The website you reffered does not reflect in any way the feeling of the whole nation.

I fully support Kardar.We as a nation are too naives.We are there4 punished by Allah,we are too far from Islam,giving prefference to the individuals than the nation.We are also by nature corrupt there4 are pleased & rewarded with corrupt leadership.For our personal likes/dislikes,for our petty interests/benefits & for our affiliation with political parties we become selfish & lose the orientation.There4 we didn,t merged as a nation.musharraf was corrupt (Embazled the money send for earthquake victims,sold his people for dollars & put it in his pocket & struck a deal of NRO,for which the consequenses we are bearing as a nation).Did one of you saw him in the private parties,drinking,smoking,dancing & moreover misinterpreting Islam & self claimed difinition of "Enlightened Moderation" which gave a chance to the characterly corrupt people like him to westernise our society.the mushroom growth of "Burgers" Gicky wickeys Desi Angrez exploited our Islamic country,our culture & our social norms.The irony is that we are even surprised that why are going through this disaster & turmoil.Few families of enlightened moderates caused all this damage Aur "GHIYON KE SAATH GHUN BI PIS JHATA HE".We should repent so that Allah save us & our country.

Thanks Qazi, we really need to amend ourselves otherwise nothing is going to change in this country.

Yeah ...musharraf ne pakistan per loan tha wo sirf musharraf ne hi khatam kiya hai ....america ko pay ker ke ...guyzz ab to zardari hai presedent ab to wattt lagni hai pakistan ki ...ALLAH Rehem karna Apney watan per

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