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ugwaraich
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India 'not a threat to Pakistan'
Mr Zardari's remarks mark a radical break with the past
Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari says India has never been a threat to Pakistan, and that militants in Indian-administered Kashmir are terrorists.
In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, he also seemed to acknowledge that his government has given consent to US air strikes in Pakistan.
The unorthodox views run counter to those held by Pakistan's military, which views India as a threat.
India and Pakistan have fought three wars but have made recent peace moves.
Deep suspicions
Pakistan's powerful military has long-defined India as an existential threat, and in the past it has given covert backing to the militants in Kashmir.
The two regional rivals did take part in a faltering peace process under the former president, General Pervez Musharraf.
But suspicions always ran deep, and relations have soured recently.
Mr Zardari's comments thus mark a radical break with the past.
The Wall Street Journal also reports that Mr Zardari acknowledged that the US was firing missiles at militant targets inside Pakistan with his government's consent.
"We have an understanding, in the sense that we're going after an enemy together," it quotes him as saying.
But the Pakistani army is adamant that coalition forces do not have permission for such cross-border raids.
These incursions have stoked enormous anger in Pakistan - and Mr Zardari's comments may do the same.
All I can say about Zardari is he is a bastaard, this is once again a test for Pakistanis after musharraf, zardari is doing exactly what musharraf did;I was expecting that zardari would be clever than musharraf but he is as stupid as musharraf, as he has rubbished the Kashmir cause, drained the sacred blood of mujahideens in Kashmir. Benazir also did the same, benazir was a traitor, so is zardari. Benazir helped india suppress the Khalsa movement and betrayed her motherland, this is exactly what zardari is doing in denouncing the militants in Kashmir. We need a revolution now
By Barbara Plett
BBC News, Islamabad
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7653687.stm
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/PDP_Hurriyat_slam_Zardari/articleshow/3564002.cms |
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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:22 pm |
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loje
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All I can say about Zardari is he is a bastaard, this is once again a test for Pakistanis after musharraf, zardari is doing exactly what musharraf did;I was expecting that zardari would be clever than musharraf but he is as stupid as musharraf, as he has rubbished the Kashmir cause, drained the sacred blood of mujahideens in Kashmir. Benazir also did the same, benazir was a traitor, so is zardari. Benazir helped india suppress the Khalsa movement and betrayed her motherland, this is exactly what zardari is doing in denouncing the militants in Kashmir. We need a revolution now |

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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:57 pm |
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frana
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Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 48
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THIS HARAAMZADA SHOULD BE KILLED IMMEDIATELY TO SAVE PAKISTAN, OTHERWISE IT IS GOING TO BE TOO LATE. IT SEEMS TO ME ALL THE GHADDAARS, QADIANIS AND CORRUPT POLITICAL GUNDAAS HAVE TAKEN OVER THIS COUNTRY.
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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:33 pm |
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kardar
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[quote="loje"]
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All I can say about Zardari is he is a bastaard, this is once again a test for Pakistanis after musharraf, zardari is doing exactly what musharraf did;I was expecting that zardari would be clever than musharraf but he is as stupid as musharraf, as he has rubbished the Kashmir cause, drained the sacred blood of mujahideens in Kashmir. Benazir also did the same, benazir was a traitor, so is zardari. Benazir helped india suppress the Khalsa movement and betrayed her motherland, this is exactly what zardari is doing in denouncing the militants in Kashmir. We need a revolution now |
We were having no doubt that this garbage dump is going to lead Pakistan into disaster. PPP (so called Shaheed) party has people around them with no vision and intelligence. Every one in that party is there to sing slogan of Asif Ali Zardari and nothing more than that. Honestly speaking if they think Asif Zardari is a leader of Pakistani people they are absolutely wrong. He is actually a leader of few “Zameer Faroash” around him. What a shame.
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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 6:48 pm |
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Serenity
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Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 518 Location: Norway |
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hmmm...and then they ask why suicidebombings happen?
I guess they are just oppressed poeple who are fighting for their right to a free land..what else can they do when they cant even live in peace for so long time...
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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:07 pm |
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frana
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Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 48
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INDIA IS NOT A THREAT TO PAKISTAN BUT THIS SCUMBAG ZARDARI IS DEFINITELY A BIGGER THREAT.
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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 8:39 pm |
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chahsanashraf
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Joined: 14 Sep 2008 Posts: 1113 Location: Bahawalpur Pakistan |
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ALLAH HUM PAR RAHAM KARAY KA AB HAMARA HUKMARAN DOSHMANO KO APNA DOST SAMJ RAHI HA ORE APNI PAKISTANI BAHIO KO DUSHMAN QURAN MA ALLAH FARMATA HA KA YAHODI KABI MUSLIM KA DOST NAHI HO SAKTA ALLAH HUM PAR RAHAM KARA PLZ DUA KARO ALLAH SA 
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| Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:52 pm |
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Mr.Genius
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Joined: 29 Sep 2008 Posts: 3
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:28 am |
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CoolMind
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Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 222
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Begheerat Be sharam
Be Nazeer Bhi Terrorist
Asif Ali Zardari bhi Terrorist
Amrican Kutta
Allah ko hkush karne kay bajaee India or Amrica ko hkush karr raha hai toba toba
bohot jald is per bhi allah ka azab ane wala hai
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:58 am |
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peacemind
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Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 5
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http://www.individual.com/story.php?story=89576349
Zardari admits terrorists operating in J-K, India not a threat
"India has never been a threat to Pakistan. I, for one, and our democratic government is not scared of Indian influence abroad," Zardari told 'Wall Street Journal' in an interview He spoke of the militant groups operating in Kashmir as "terrorists," the paper said noting that former President Pervez Musharraf would more likely have called them "freedom fighters." Indicating a major shift in Pakistan's well known position, Zardari had, as chief of Pakistan People's Party, said in March that the ties between two countries should not be held "hostage" to the Kashmir issue, which should be left for future generations to decide, raising hackles at home.
The latest positive signals from Zardari come days fater his maiden meeting with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh here on the sidelines of UN General Assembly meeting.
Replying to a question, Zardari said he had no objection to the India-US nuclear deal so long as Pakistan is treated "at par." "Why would we grudge the largest democracy in the world getting friendly with one of the oldest democracy?" he said.
Asked whether he would consider a free-trade agreement with India, the paper said he responded with a "string of welcome, perhaps even historic, surprises." While seeking better ties with New Delhi, he noted that "there is no other economic survival for nations like us. We have to trade with our neighbours first."
About Pakistan's economic crisis -- the central bank has about two months' worth of foreign currency reserves left to pay for the country's imports of oil and food -- Zardari said he looks to the world to "give me USD 100 billion." The paper says he imagines Pakistani cement factories being constructed to provide for India's huge infrastructure needs, Pakistani textile mills meeting Indian demand for blue jeans, Pakistani ports being used to relieve the congestion at Indian ones.
Against the backdrop of the US-Pakistan row over the cross-border raids in the restive tribal belt by coalition forces from Afghanistan, Zardari said "I am an American friend" and admitted that the US is carrying out Predator missile strikes on the Pakistani soil with his government's consent, the paper reported.
"We have an understanding, in the sense that we're going after an enemy together," he said.
"I am not going to fall for this position that it's an unpopular thing to be an American friend. I am an American friend," he said.
About the Pakistani security forces firing on the US aircraft, he said it was merely an incident, "and while incidents do happen, they are not important." Zardari also acknowledged the problem that had bedevilled past efforts at US-Pakistani cooperation, particularly in intelligence sharing: the widely held suspicion that Pakistani intelligence services continue to cooperate with, and even arm, the Taliban.
"You know, you keep an uglier alternative around so that you may not be asked to leave," he said, in reference to allegations that while Musharraf was fighting Islamic radicals with one hand, he was protecting them with the other.
Zardari refused to go into further detail other than to say he "solved the problem". The head of ISI Nadeem Taj was replaced this week by Ahmad Shuja Pasha.
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take us from darkness to light
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 11:54 am |
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Rana Naeem
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Joined: 20 Nov 2007 Posts: 1392 Location: Lahore |
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Ye Kashmiries key khoon se ghaddari hai Zardari is a pest for Pakistan & Kashmir, May Allah Ruined all enemies of Pakistan & Kashmir
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 2:16 pm |
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arialcad
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Zardari has gone nuts. It's not yet a month since he has taken Oath as president and he has so many mishaps. He is a disappointing character.
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:55 pm |
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ugwaraich
Senior Proud Pakistani


Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1475
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I am so disappointed and down because of all this crap, this government although the most corrupt in Pakistan but yet people had a little bit of hope from this regime atleast they were supposed to do better than musharraf, zardari is proving to be worse. I dont think a clever guy like zardari can do such a blunder, yes I think he is clever and sinister but not sincere/honest to anyone not even his own wife. I am sure he was drunk while he gave that interview.
What is happening to muslim world?
What is happening to Pakistan?
where are those so called "enlightened moderate" people who are responsible for all their flexible behaviour to other countries? this enlightened moderation is escalating into an extreme level of self negation and self disgrace; in my view those people who call themselves moderate are responsible for all this. There is no other alternative to Pakistan's survival but Islamic shariah, and I can understand why.
where chors like zardari get their hands chopped off because they stole money from their country. Where murderers like altaf and musharraf are slaughtered in public, where ministers who indulge in drinking and zina are lashed on the public crossing. We need the strictness of Zia ul Haq, enthusiasm of Ayub Khan, passion of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (not benazir or zardari) and above all determination, discipline, planning, management and leadership of Muhammad Ali Jinnah.
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:14 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
Senior Proud Pakistani


Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 1600 Location: 55743 idar-oberstein Germany |
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All I can say about Zardari is he is a bastaard, this is once again a test for Pakistanis after musharraf, zardari is doing exactly what musharraf did;I was expecting that zardari would be clever than musharraf but he is as stupid as musharraf, as he has rubbished the Kashmir cause, drained the sacred blood of mujahideens in Kashmir. Benazir also did the same, benazir was a traitor, so is zardari. Benazir helped india suppress the Khalsa movement and betrayed her motherland, this is exactly what zardari is doing in denouncing the militants in Kashmir. We need a revolution now |
We were having no doubt that this garbage dump is going to lead Pakistan into disaster. PPP (so called Shaheed) party has people around them with no vision and intelligence. Every one in that party is there to sing slogan of Asif Ali Zardari and nothing more than that. Honestly speaking if they think Asif Zardari is a leader of Pakistani people they are absolutely wrong. He is actually a leader of few “Zameer Faroash” around him. What a shame. |
I fully endorse,support & second your views.Let see what happend to them.His Wife in the past gave a list of Sikh,s freedom fighters to Rajev Ghandhi.We know who their incestors are.Our naive to forget but we loyal & patriotic Pakistani don,t..
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:17 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
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INDIA IS NOT A THREAT TO PAKISTAN BUT THIS SCUMBAG ZARDARI IS DEFINITELY A BIGGER THREAT. |
Well said.All these buggers need to be treated as enemies of Pakistan.soon you will see that Sarbajhit Singh death punishment will be pardoned to amuse their masters.These bloo.. "HIS MASTERS VOICE" dogs.
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:26 pm |
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moshoo786
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My God What he is saying HE is such A traitor ..I dont know how he become a President he is not even eligible for Cleaning job in Pakistan ..
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:30 pm |
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kardar
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INDIA IS NOT A THREAT TO PAKISTAN BUT THIS SCUMBAG ZARDARI IS DEFINITELY A BIGGER THREAT. |
Well said.All these buggers need to be treated as enemies of Pakistan.soon you will see that Sarbajhit Singh death punishment will be pardoned to amuse their masters.These bloo.. "HIS MASTERS VOICE" dogs. |
Have you gone through the statement of stupid law minister (The biggest Baigarat) was talking to the media about the justice to Sarbajhit Singh. You nonsense can not provide the justice to your own people and how much you are worried for Sarbajhit Singh. What dirty part you have played in the restoration of the judges everyone is aware off that and you talk about justice. Shameless people like you are the main hindrance in the development of our country. Your senseless leader is blaming Kashmiries as terrorist for no reason and you are taking to an Indian terrorist who has been declared terrorist by the Pakistani courts. It means you don’t have faith on your judiciary. You seem to be a planted person from outside and nothing more than that. Honestly speaking all these leaders are the real culprits. Farooq A Naik you should keep one thing in mind when you will be going to Allah, Asif Zardari is not going to save you.
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:08 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
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INDIA IS NOT A THREAT TO PAKISTAN BUT THIS SCUMBAG ZARDARI IS DEFINITELY A BIGGER THREAT. |
Well said.All these buggers need to be treated as enemies of Pakistan.soon you will see that Sarbajhit Singh death punishment will be pardoned to amuse their masters.These bloo.. "HIS MASTERS VOICE" dogs. |
Have you gone through the statement of stupid law minister (The biggest Baigarat) was talking to the media about the justice to Sarbajhit Singh. You nonsense can not provide the justice to your own people and how much you are worried for Sarbajhit Singh. What dirty part you have played in the restoration of the judges everyone is aware off that and you talk about justice. Shameless people like you are the main hindrance in the development of our country. Your senseless leader is blaming Kashmiries as terrorist for no reason and you are taking to an Indian terrorist who has been declared terrorist by the Pakistani courts. It means you don’t have faith on your judiciary. You seem to be a planted person from outside and nothing more than that. Honestly speaking all these leaders are the real culprits. Farooq A Naik you should keep one thing in mind when you will be going to Allah, Asif Zardari is not going to save you. |
What do you expect from this"Ghulam Ibn E ghulam" of india "KIA KEHTE HAIN" fame.They are send by India to play their role here.Their Barre Bhai Jan RAW ke Ghulam Altaf Bhai is steering them from England.They are puposely finishing the death penalty in Pakistan so that all these RAW agents profit from it & having a free hand.Thise dudes are not capable of representing a group whereas they have been given asignment much more taller than their height.Non of these "Beghairats" are even elected.They are not going to Meet Allah rather "Shaitan" waiting for them in the hell.
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| Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:03 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
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My God What he is saying HE is such A traitor ..I dont know how he become a President he is not even eligible for Cleaning job in Pakistan .. |
NO MY DEAR THE CLEANING JOB THEY CAN DO VERY WELL EG:CLEANING SHOES OF WESTERNERS & CLEANING OFF THE NATIONAL TREASURES OF PAKISTAN AS USUAL.THEY ARE "GHADDAR IBN E GHADDAR".
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| Wed Oct 08, 2008 9:07 pm |
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ywr
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unfortunately the dilemma is that people like zardari are ruling us....it is heart breaking to see my beloved country in such a state..."It has every thing that you can think of.", The Quaid said...its so unfortunate that we are subverting it....our politicians reflect of our deteriorating society...where we failed to produce a single Leader after 60 years...may Allah Almighty protect my country from the evil designs and perpetrators of sin...Ameen!
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:55 am |
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inayat khan qazi
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We should as a nation ask these traitors & perpetrators about their nonsense statements.Why shouldn,t we declare all these national CHORS,DAKKUS & EXPLOITERS etc as a terrorists.They arre the one to bring us at this brink of this Misery.Why should they be trialed,make accountable for their sinns & Crimes.Who are they to declare anyone terrorist,what is their own character,reputation & credibility.Except plundering,lootering & stealing this nation & licking the boots of their Western Masters(Through which they have come into power),tthey have no other credentials.We as a Nation are also cowards & feelingless not to raise against them,hold them from their necks,show them their reality(HESIAT) & ask them who they think of theirselves or to allow theirselves to give such a statements.If we can,t do this means that we as a nation are not been able to merge as a living & sovereign nation.
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:11 pm |
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