Karachi Nazim Mustufa Kamal, Explain?

Monday, July 07, 2008
Karachi Nazim Mr Mustufa Kamal made some startling remarks and observations at the businessmen’s dinner in Karachi on Friday night in honour of President Pervez Musharraf. He told the members of the audience that they should not take their money away from Karachi because “if they return after six months or one year the region and its geography may not be the same”. The comments, made in the presence of the president and the governor of Sindh are alarming to say the least. President Musharraf in his speech supported the observations of the nazim and had his own advice for politicians and others.

Mayor Kamal’s remarks are intriguing, if not downright conspiratorial. What does he mean by the warning that after six months or a year Karachi’s geography or even that of the region, may change? Is any plan being prepared somewhere that he knows of but would not rather share with the public other than warning his moneyed supporters not to take the risk of taking their money away? It may be noted that the city nazim was recently invited for an extended visit to the United States where he was received by officials in a manner that no one as low in the political hierarchy as a city nazim had ever been. It would be in the fitness of things if Mr Kamal clarifies his remarks, explains the context and informs the people of Pakistan if he really means what he said publicly with TV cameras rolling and the entire country watching. An explanation of these remarks from MQM headquarters in London would also help in understanding what lies in store for Karachi, the region and the country, as the nazim has clearly indicated.

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Rather than pulling down people on hearsay, maybe one should look at their achievements, be proud of it as they are bringing good name to the city & country ?

Why one must attempt to hang whoever tries to do any good?

Karachi Mayor nominated for World Mayor of the Year
By kar_guest July 23rd, 2005 @ 2:28 AM Life in Karachi
I am still surprised why no one has posted this so far, not really sure how much value this particular site holds. But according to a contest currently taking place here World Mayor , ours cityís very own mayor has been nominated for World Mayor Award. Not only your votes count but also your supporting statements will make a difference. Do check that out.

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we have to keep a very good eye on these people and also do some research on there background.this gonna clear lot many things.World Scanario is changing very fast.

mushytail wrote:

Rather than pulling down people on hearsay, maybe one should look at their achievements, be proud of it as they are bringing good name to the city & country ?

Why one must attempt to hang whoever tries to do any good?

Karachi Mayor nominated for World Mayor of the Year
By kar_guest July 23rd, 2005 @ 2:28 AM Life in Karachi
I am still surprised why no one has posted this so far, not really sure how much value this particular site holds. But according to a contest currently taking place here World Mayor , ours cityís very own mayor has been nominated for World Mayor Award. Not only your votes count but also your supporting statements will make a difference. Do check that out.

And you think America is very happy on the achievements of Karachi mayor and gave a red carpet reception due to his marvels which he performed in Karachi? And by the way, during his tenure there are many things which are unique to him, the street crime has reached its heights and last year the killing of political parties workers on the streets of Karachi.

World Mayor 2008 The final shortlist

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They are (listed in alphabetical order of their cities}:
• Helen Zille, Mayor of Cape Town, South Africa
• Leopoldo Eduardo López, Mayor of Chacao, Venezuela
• Göran Johansson, Mayor of Gothenburg, Sweden
• Jaime Nebot, Mayor of Guayaquil, Ecuador
• Marides Fernando, Mayor of Marikina City, Philippines
• Ulrich Maly, Mayor of Nürnberg, Germany
• Phil Gordon, Mayor of Phoenix, USA
• José Fogaça, Porto Alegre, Brazil
• Mohammad Baqer Ghalibaf, Mayor of Tehran, Iran
• Salvador Gandara, Mayor of Villa Nueva, Guatemala
• Elmar Ledergerber, Mayor of Zurich, Switzerland

mushytail maybe you can see Karachi "Qatil league" Mayor there? but i can Not even see in "The 50 finalists of 2008" check it out...

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back in 2005 karachi mayor "Naimatullah Khan" was among 50 finalist...

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Remember this post is not about "Mayor Naimatullah Khan" is about Mayor Mustufa Kamal ---

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Guy in the picture is Above Law but NOT U & ME.

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Tasting one piece of rice from the pot is enough to know about its quality.One should show their real faces to those naives believing in these actors cum jugglers.Altaf Hussain picture with British passport is a very good effort to reveal their real faces,but i hope that they can realise.How should Allah help us when we allow murderers as polititions.

mushytail wrote:

Rather than pulling down people on hearsay, maybe one should look at their achievements, be proud of it as they are bringing good name to the city & country ?

Why one must attempt to hang whoever tries to do any good?

Karachi Mayor nominated for World Mayor of the Year
By kar_guest July 23rd, 2005 @ 2:28 AM Life in Karachi
I am still surprised why no one has posted this so far, not really sure how much value this particular site holds. But according to a contest currently taking place here World Mayor , ours cityís very own mayor has been nominated for World Mayor Award. Not only your votes count but also your supporting statements will make a difference. Do check that out.

Ppl jus dnt understand how much wrk av been done in khi u c bridges, flyovers new roads n all sort now
i lived in karachi all my youth n neva seen it in better condition
Ok crime rate mite b record high but if some 1 think it will go dwn lives in coco land
Crimes r hi all ova Pakistan n that’s a national issue not jus karachiz
Ask ppl those who had 2 spent hours on a daily in traffic jams
I think v shud learn the art of appreciation

if all the leaders of pakistan think of pakistan in the first place. pakistan will become number one.t

Nazim of Karachi, Mr. Kamal said whatever the reality is. I am with him in this matter.

Mow the inner thoughts and actual plans of Musharaf and his followers are in Public...... Everyone knows that what are the intentions of Karachi's Mayer. May Allah Bless our Country. Amin

qedwai wrote:

mushytail wrote:

Rather than pulling down people on hearsay, maybe one should look at their achievements, be proud of it as they are bringing good name to the city & country ?

Why one must attempt to hang whoever tries to do any good?

Karachi Mayor nominated for World Mayor of the Year
By kar_guest July 23rd, 2005 @ 2:28 AM Life in Karachi
I am still surprised why no one has posted this so far, not really sure how much value this particular site holds. But according to a contest currently taking place here World Mayor , ours cityís very own mayor has been nominated for World Mayor Award. Not only your votes count but also your supporting statements will make a difference. Do check that out.

Ppl jus dnt understand how much wrk av been done in khi u c bridges, flyovers new roads n all sort now
i lived in karachi all my youth n neva seen it in better condition
Ok crime rate mite b record high but if some 1 think it will go dwn lives in coco land
Crimes r hi all ova Pakistan n that’s a national issue not jus karachiz
Ask ppl those who had 2 spent hours on a daily in traffic jams
I think v shud learn the art of appreciation

I agree with you both and i will add a few developments as well ...............

Increase in Mobile theft and snatching
Increase in Moter vehicle theft and snatching
Increase in Robberies
Increase in Thefts

and above all wonderful police force of Karachi ........Always up to task ......I have spent time in Karachi as well and I know how things work overthere.......

he said those words in bizness community meeting and what he meant that if the you (bizness community) dont invest now and leave us that who is gonna take us out of this disastrous situation and may be you wont even find better situation when you come back and may the situation be even worse. As he rightly pointed out the situation is very bad which is obvious to all. if someone says in public, i will call him HONEST person and nothing less. I have been to usa, and the govt there do support and appreciate someone AROUND the world if they do good things for public. there r other city nazims who went to usa for similar vists for your kind information. Guys who said such stupid comments against the nazim, i hope you non KARACHIITEs, as they r the one who says that. they r the one who says whatever they like and their stupids minds cant be changed; they used to hate us 60 years back and even ahte now; they dont care that 69% of the total revenue of the country is generated by the karachi.
And to the thefts and roberies which i thk is increasng all over the ocuntry. and secondly, in a city where hundreds of the illiterate and poor pathans come each day for job and reside in poverty stricken areas and spread their dirt and filth around; and when they earn, send all money to the northern areas; then ofcourse that city will collapse. and also where you cants say anything to these pathans even if they are doing bad as if you say somethign then you will be called rascist. PLEASE GUYS TRY TO UNDERSTAND AND ANALYZE WHAT IS GOOD FOR OUR CITY AND WHAT WILL BRING PROSPERITY TO US. always remember we cant get everything and we have to cool down out minds and no matter which sect/race/religion, we belong have to broaden our views and LEARN TO APPRECIATE AND LOVE.

Well, I believe Allah commands me to do Justice (even to people/Qaum who are my enemy)

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After watching the Original Speech Video, I swear to Allah, this is only Propaganda and this is only hatred accusation upon Mustafa Kamal.

Here is link to Original Speech and then no one will be having any excuse to escape.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=QBCGNhWP1hU&feature=related (Part 1)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_F7cTbY5exg&feature=related (Part 2)

1. Mustafa Kamal did this speech without any preparation.

2. And since that time, I have become a fan of this Pakistan Loving person.

3. His speech is excellent......... He is not only ready to lead Karachi, but he has Talent to even lead Pakistan. May Allah (swt) bless him and save him from the Hasideen. Amin.

Salam for all,

i think many may like mustafa kamal or his work and many may nót but what is important that we start judging people on what are they doing ........ this can bring a better leadership or government in pakistan ...... doesnt matter who or which party .....

i consider mustafa kamal a better possibility among whatever is available in karachi atleast and consider his speech an honest and direct approach to the major problem in pakistan - economy and politics. his speech in my view was good.

Sami

For me it is immaterial if Mustafa Kamal has really said those words or not. MQM keeps on saying strange things about Geography of Pakistan times and again. It will not be unfair to say that with the kind of support Altaf Hussain got, he could have changed History of Pakistan, but regretfully he always spoke about changing Geography of Pakistan.
Regarding development work in Karachi, if you can make say 1000 Rupees for a job costing 100 Rupees or less, will you not do it? The money being spent will be paid back by us and our generations for a very long time. The money which only partly is spent here and major part in London.

Mustafa Kamal now is a mayor of a major city of Pakistan, whether he is from MQM or whatever does not matter. At his place no one should be allowed to open mouth like that, unfortunately the country's situation is a bit not good due to the weaker Govt. otherwise ppl like Mustafa Kamal will be taken care off easily.

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	Mustafa Kamal now is a mayor of a major city of Pakistan, whether he is from MQM or whatever does not matter. At his place no one should be allowed to open mouth like that, unfortunately the country's situation is a bit not good due to the weaker Govt. otherwise ppl like Mustafa Kamal will be taken care off easily.

Brother,

Have you heard his speech above`?

We are telling for long time that he uttered no Such Words as the Author of the article above accused him of. And whatever he said, author is taking out entirely wrong meanings out of it based only and only upon his hatred.

In his speech, how many times he showed his Love for Pakistan and People of Pakistan. How many times he showed his worries due to bad economical situation and stock exchange damage? But author has totally neglected all this.

And Mustafa Kamal was telling if Country is going to loose such huge losses (like 22 Billion Dollars in Stock Exchange), then our enemies like India and Israel has not to attack us to end us, but we would end Us ourselves and destroy Pakistan.
In this same background, he told the Pakistani Business Men to not to take their Investment away from Pakistan to Arab Countries, but they better to make Pakistan Strong and save it from being destroyed.

I invite all of you to please watch his Speech Directly and by Allah you would witness that Author of Article has hatred in his heart by accusing Mustafa Kamal for such things.

hi
in good faith v can say dat nazim wz tryin 2 warn da pplz
k "na samjho ge to mit jao ge..."

aitizaz ahsan also visited, states wht do u say bout him??

n guys

4 a moment consider all this is a fact
ma question 2 all ov u iz wht u r planin to do???
to stop it b4 it happens??

ur army iz engaged
ur politicians are corrupt and disloyal
ur law makers are stupid ( da way day r followin aitizaz ahsan)
and v r more dan happy 2 giv warm welcom 2 indian culture
v treat dem wid honor n respect every were saying day r our guest
v use 2 free dere spies n dey send us corpses n crpses in return

jus tel me wht shud be da logical fate ov such a nation
shudn't v b prepare for another bangladesh or yogoslavia

wht u r planing 2 do friends??
how many ov u hav had spare some real time in field away from da worries ov ur job n ur family 2 sav ur nation??
how many ov u hav joined politics 2 giv some true n sincere leaders
how many?

aimenqazi wrote:

qedwai wrote:

mushytail wrote:

Rather than pulling down people on hearsay, maybe one should look at their achievements, be proud of it as they are bringing good name to the city & country ?

Why one must attempt to hang whoever tries to do any good?

Karachi Mayor nominated for World Mayor of the Year
By kar_guest July 23rd, 2005 @ 2:28 AM Life in Karachi
I am still surprised why no one has posted this so far, not really sure how much value this particular site holds. But according to a contest currently taking place here World Mayor , ours cityís very own mayor has been nominated for World Mayor Award. Not only your votes count but also your supporting statements will make a difference. Do check that out.

Ppl jus dnt understand how much wrk av been done in khi u c bridges, flyovers new roads n all sort now
i lived in karachi all my youth n neva seen it in better condition
Ok crime rate mite b record high but if some 1 think it will go dwn lives in coco land
Crimes r hi all ova Pakistan n that’s a national issue not jus karachiz
Ask ppl those who had 2 spent hours on a daily in traffic jams
I think v shud learn the art of appreciation

I agree with you both and i will add a few developments as well ...............

Increase in Mobile theft and snatching
Increase in Moter vehicle theft and snatching
Increase in Robberies
Increase in Thefts

and above all wonderful police force of Karachi ........Always up to task ......I have spent time in Karachi as well and I know how things work overthere.......

sir 4 ur kind info its not only khi where crime rates r hi it all ova d pk take NWFP 4 n example
n wud u b kind enuf 2 give us n example of any crime ever goin dwn in pk
it will neva change unless a revolutionary change in whole feudal based pk politics
so dear bro plzz try 2 appreciate some 1 from time 2 time it will not harm u

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	sir 4 ur kind info its not only khi where crime rates r hi it all ova d pk take NWFP 4 n example n wud u b kind enuf 2 give us n example of any crime ever goin dwn in pk it will neva change unless a revolutionary change in whole feudal based pk politics so dear bro plzz try 2 appreciate some 1 from time 2 time it will not harm u

No brother this is not correct. This statement is deceiving yourself. Increase of crime rate is not same in whole the country compared to Karachi. You are giving lullaby to your fellows in Karachi.

NWFP situation cannot be compared to street crimes.

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Dr. HAM wrote:

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	sir 4 ur kind info its not only khi where crime rates r hi it all ova d pk take NWFP 4 n example n wud u b kind enuf 2 give us n example of any crime ever goin dwn in pk it will neva change unless a revolutionary change in whole feudal based pk politics so dear bro plzz try 2 appreciate some 1 from time 2 time it will not harm u

No brother this is not correct. This statement is deceiving yourself. Increase of crime rate is not same in whole the country compared to Karachi. You are giving lullaby to your fellows in Karachi.

NWFP situation cannot be compared to street crimes.

Dear Doc, a question for you:

OK, let us say Street Crime is increasing in Karachi with more rate than other parts of Country. My Question is, "What Street Crime rate has to do with MQM, and why you held solely MQM for this?"

Let me give you 2 types of Crimes:

1. Political Crimes
2. Street Crimes

If Political Crimes are increasing in Karachi, then may be we could say MQM is involved in it. But contrary to 4 Eras of PPP and Nawaz League, the Political Crimes was at high time Low during last 8 Years of President Musharraf. (I would come to this point later and compare the different Eras and show you how Political Crimes were high during the so-called democratic Governments, and President Musharraf, who is blamed to be a Dictator, he solved that BIG Problem of Karachi and brought back the Peace in Karachi without firing even a SINGLE BULLET.

But how that became Possible? (We should be thankful to President Musharraf for Introducing City Government System, due to which for the first time Peopel of Karachi got their Rights. Earlier all that Part of Tax Money which was paid by Karachi People in name of Cleaness, Water, Severage etc. went to Provincial Assembly where PPP was in Government and instead of spending it in Karachi, it went in pockets of democratic Government of PPP.

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So, let us talk about "Street Crime" now.

Once again let me repeat my question: "What Street Crime has to do with MQM and how you SOLELY held MQM responsible for this"?

Note:

1. Karachi Police is not under supervision of City Government, but it is Sindh Police and still regulated by Sindh Government.

2. Still 80%+ Policemen of Karachi are from Punjab (Could you imagine this?). Karachi Police is one of the most corrupt Police department in Pakistan.

3. Karachi is the most wealthiest City of Pakistan.
This means People have much more Money as compared to other cities of Pakistan.
Karachi is a very very big city .... which means one can steal/rob Money and very easy to hide among big Population of Karachi (in small cities it is easy to investigate as compared to Mega Cities. You would hardly see any Crimes in small villages where all know each other.
All these Factors make it a PARADISE for Robbers. Therefore many Criminal Groups eyes towards Karachi for their activities. From Internal Sindh, which is a center of Robbers, it was Optimal for them to go in Karachi for hunt (Karachi is the only Big and Wealthy City in Sindh and none of Robber from Internal Sindh comes to Lahore.
Another Problem of Karachi is this that it is the most biggest multi-ethnical City of Pakistan.

I have more to say about this point, but I stop here (perhaps later I come to it).

But only last thing, just take any MEGA City in any Country of the world, and you would Clearly watch that rates of Street Crimes is much much more higher in all these Mega Cities as compared to other cities of those Countries.

The Criminal Mentality of Afghanies and FATA

Now I want to draw your attention to the Crimes in FATA Areas [Please stop before you tell me that FATA is not related to Karachi. Indeed FATA is very much related to Karachi and you must first understand the Criminal MIND and Areas of FATA, which has been exported a lot to Karachi.

Please also note that Pushtoon of Pakistan are entirely different from Afghanies and from People of FATA. Pakistani Pushtoons, who live in Government Controlled AReas as equally Educated and Civilized as people of Lahore and Karachi.

I don't want to attack any ethnity. We all are brothers and Muslims. But my aim here is to describe the reasons of Crimes in Pakistan.

Regarding Afghanies and FATA Areas, please note:

- People has such type of atmosphere there that some Crimes have become so popular that they are no more considered as Crimes.
Like, people are religious, but you know there are many areas in FATA where these Religious people are cultivating Poppy (Heroine)? It is considered no more crime
Smuggling is a crime, but it is considered no more a crime in FATA
All cars which are stolen in Pakistan, they are brought to FATA where they run on Roads without any fear. No one pays Car Tax there. No one pays Electricity bills in Fata as they don't consider it even as crime any more.

- People in FATA are still living in Stone Ages, where people form some strong Groups and loot the other Groups. You know how many Criminal Groups are operating in FATA, who are involved in every type of Looting, stealing and killings?

- Due to this special behaviour, people of FATA have the Mentality of some type of forming MAFIAS. And where ever they go, they take this MAFIA Mentality with them.

- Also you see these Afghanies are involved big times in business of Weapons and Drugs, and ultimate result of this business in MAFIA Culture.
Also in Karachi, these 2 Businesses are controlled by Afghanies.

If this Mantality is clear to you, then let's move forward and see how Karachi is being effected due to this.

[/b]The Situation of Sohrab Goth in Karachi (One main Area of Crime) [/b]

You see, we are in era of Globalization.

In last few Years, a lot lot lot of people have moved from rural Areas to Cities generally to earn money. In particular, many Afghanies and people of FATA have moved to Karachi in last few Years (the rate is really very high)

The main Center of Crimes and Mafia in Karachi is Sohrab Goth. All Drugs and Weapons and stolen Mobiles business are done Openly in this Area and Police of Karachi fears to enter this Area.

Big Mafias are present in Soharab Goth and it is estimated Sohrab Goth has a lot of participation in Street Crime in Karachi and most of criminals take Refuge in this Area after their activities.

The PPP backed ARea in Karachi .... the 2nd biggest Area of Criminal Activities

I have to do a little research here and bring you the exact links of News about this Area. This area is PPP backed Area and people are not much educated. It is needed developments should be made in this area.

In the mean time some one from Karachi could provide you with the exact name of this Area and some details about Mafias there.

one may wonder how can situation in Palestine be compared with that in Karachi...
well.. the deciphering code/working equation is FATAH IN PALESTINE = FASCIST THUGS IN KARACHI
just read on .. this is just a matter of time.. because the THUG KING just said asked the "INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY FOR HELP"

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Israel helps 180 Fatah members flee Gaza clashes

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gOnN_LElFpgmpZHZyvZOKhTGDs7g

GAZA CITY (AFP) — Israel has allowed more than 180 members of Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas's Fatah party to flee the Gaza Strip after a wave of deadly clashes with Hamas, the army said on Sunday.

"More than 180 Palestinians from Fatah were authorised to take refuge in Israel. Twenty-two of them were wounded and were hospitalised," an army spokeswoman said.

She added that the decision was a "humanitarian gesture" by Israel to Abbas's Western-backed Palestinian Authority, whose forces were routed from Gaza when Hamas seized power in the impoverished territory in June 2007.

Dozens of Fatah men fled the Gaza Strip Saturday through the Nahal Oz crossing after clashes erupted between Islamist Hamas-run security forces and the pro-Fatah Helis clan, killing nine people and wounding dozens more.

The fighting was the deadliest bout of inter-Palestinian violence since Hamas seized power and followed a week in which the Islamist movement cracked down on its Fatah rivals, detaining upwards of 300 people.

Tensions have been high in the impoverished coastal strip of 1.5 million people since a beachside bombing more than a week ago killed five senior Hamas militants and a little girl.

The Islamist movement quickly blamed Fatah, shut down dozens of offices, charities and sporting clubs tied to the group, and on Saturday accused several members of the Helis family of responsibility for the July 25 attack.

Fatah has denied any involvement in the explosion but in an apparent tit-for-tat arrest campaign Abbas's security forces detained dozens of Hamas members in the Israeli-occupied West Bank over the past week.

Following requests from Egypt and Abbas, Israel, which has been holding US-backed peace talks with the Palestinian leader since November, allowed the Fatah members to flee Gaza despite a months-old blockade.

"Our position on principle is that we work with and aid those among the Palestinians who struggle against radical Islam, who oppose terrorism, and who favour negotiations," Deputy Prime Minister Haim Ramon told army radio.

"This is why we take this position when these Palestinians are in distress and asking to go to (Abbas's headquarters in) Ramallah, where they will participate in the struggle against Hamas," he added.

Since Hamas seized power in Gaza Israel has sealed the territory off from all but limited humanitarian aid as Palestinian militants have launched hundreds of rocket and mortar attacks on southern Israel.

The fighting was brought to a virtual halt on June 19 however when Israel and Palestinian militants entered into an Egyptian-brokered truce. Since then there have been only a few sporadic rocket and mortar attacks from Gaza.

Its Ok I am living in Europe...Its a great difference between Pakistan n here but IF SOME ONE IS GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE....MAKE A CHANGE LETS DO IT>>>>

karachi is the hub of pakistan and mustafa kamal often says there was no planning for this city ever before but know i think he is doing something...if he is sincere with KARACHI then ALLAH WILL HELP HIM...OUR ALL PRAYERS AND SUPPORT IS WITH HIM ITS NOT MATTER OF A POLITICAL PARTY OR....MQM ITS MATTER OF KARACHI AND MATTER OF PAKISTAN