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Islamic extremists, is there such a thing??

 
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dullah
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Islamic extremists, is there such a thing??
Islamic extremists, is there such a thing?

what would you define it as?

Is it only a media propaganda?

what is your input?
Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:12 pm View user's profile Send private message
proud
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get some information and education, boy!
Then you will know what it is.

all what you know is :"its all propaganda"
start to use your brains here and stop to talk crap like parrots
Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:38 pm View user's profile Send private message
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dullah wrote:
Islamic extremists, is there such a thing?

what would you define it as?

Is it only a media propaganda?

what is your input?

Milgya jawaab Bhai Sahab aap ko Question
Wesse hi poori dunyia Islam ke peeche paddi hoi hai, upper se aap jayse doast agar iss kissam ke topic lao ge to yeh loag aur batmezzi pey utrein ge Exclamation

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EnCounter
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proud wrote:
get some information and education, boy!
Then you will know what it is.

all what you know is :"its all propaganda"
start to use your brains here and stop to talk crap like parrots

Well, I don`t know that why you DO NOT want to study about your own religion before you blame others.... Shocked
I already answerd to your question in an other topic. But let me tell you that Islam is a peace full and a religion that tell us the manners and how to live peace full with others. Yes I believe 100% that pr today its a huge propaganda by western countries and USA against Islam and Islamic countries Exclamation

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Well well well. But who have given western media a chance 4 such propaganda. Arent these Taliban like Khan Khattab who litrily slaughtered ppl in the name of islam, he some of u have seen such video by them. Today they are distributing messages to Pakistani ppl, who are supplying POL to NATO that they are Murtad and Wajibul Qatl. Why they are Murtad, because helping enemies of islam? What about them who earned money by smuggling goods from Pakistan China border. And what about Usama, isnt he wisely used against islam. And we as nation, sorry to say, are still protecting them by saying its all western propaganda. The axis of evil actualy is Wahabism who slaughtered muslims in Arabia during 19th & 20th centuries, been used by British, and the experiment was so successful that it encouraged British to establish Deoband in India. Otherwise, let them prove their basis, before that who was calling himself Wahabbi or Ahle Hadees or Deobandi. West was using islam with their creation and now the time has come and they are criticizing islam on the basis of the acts performed by these so called muslims. So why now to weep. Ask them who backed them up when righteous ppl were condemning them for destroying islam in the name of their self defined Tawheed. At that time many welcomed them saying they are reviving islam. Here is the result of that revived islam. Tell me isnt these are terrorist attacks what bombing they are doing in there own countries and on unarmed ppl of western countries. Why to blame west, they dont claim for following a religion of peace. Deoband made Taliban Jehadis and when they were counter attacked, making propaganda all over that we follow religion of peace. Has any of their preacher yet condemned suicidal attacks. Note mostly these attacks are conducted on civilians.. Whether it is Iraq or Afghanistan these have mostly killed innocent civilians. Its not Jehad to terrorize civilians. Enemies forces are still there with no big loss.

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irfan5791
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We as Muslims should do the righful things and do not blame on one another. today we dont follow the teachings of islam properly and also misguided by some black sheep among us. we should stick to our real teachings and must not forget what we are.
Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:37 am View user's profile Send private message
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Well said dear, there indeed is no need to fight with one another. But look who has lifted the weapons, after all the advice to them that what they are doing is not only harmful to islam but also muslims will have to have it. Latest effort of such ppl is what Pur Israr done by insulting Maula Ali (Karram Ullah Wajhu). Still they are to become champions of unity of Ummat. Nobody can put down the Muqam-e-Ali (KUW) but winning a medal from Satan. Ppl like him (means Malun Rushdi, Kafir Naik, Ghamdi Haramdi) are just Dozkhi. On doubt in it. They surely are not among us, so we are not fighting among ourselves but with enemies of islam and army of Satan.

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Dr. HAM
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Pir saheb ne dozakh bharne ka theka tumhen hi tu dia hay.

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Hurrrrr... Ham, all kafirs are dozakhi & Dozakhi dozakh main nahin jayay ga to .....
In turn u r blaming Allah (SWT) who made the rule.
Also we are not distributing certificates of Heaven, thus ur Jehadis are trying to get them equal to Nabi Pak (SAWW) only who in the whole world is The Mubashir of the kind.
There is no doubt in Kufar of these ppl, anyway if one is blind and wants to remain, what we can do.
So the topic is extremism in Islam, and there indeed is no term or practice like it. The problem is terrorism in islam, and my point of view is that some ppl collected others in the name of their own described Tawheed and establishing a group of reasonable strength and after arranging finance became terrorist. As they were so called muslims, the label of terrorism stuck to islam. And the western media was clever enough to do propaganda out of this. But infact this all was their drama. Planting Wahabia, sponsoring Ismail Dehalwi, establishing Deoband, helping Saudis for concuring Hijaz, slaughtering ppl, turning sacred islamic places into ruins in the name of Jehad, giving birth to so called Jehadis after Soviet invasion (indeed mostly the war lords were gangsters prior to become Jehadis, tell me why once the Jehad of Afghanistan ended, they quarreled upon power of holding the country) and now using Taliban as their tool. Today most of the criminals in tribal areas of Pakistan are Taliban.
Well dear the truth is eminent, if ppl like Usama, Mehsood remain in proclaimed leadership of Jehad, what else be a label to the Ummah. And the double standards of their scholars is, mixing the freedom movement of Kashmir and Palestine with their cause. What is the correlation, they are fighting for their motherland and these slaughtered muslims in the name of holy war and the aim was to take control of the country. Do protect the Al Qaida to get the finance for them, like many of muslim countries governments are tiding them with west.
So what ordinary muslim of these countries got out of it. Being bombed by suicide bombers and facing label of terrorist nationals as they are the one who interact with others alike in western countries.

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Dr HAm

AOA

mujhe nahi lagta hai k is east ne quran ko samajh kar parha hai

ye to apne peer sahab ka dum chala lagta hai

agar quran ko samajh kar parha hota to aisee batain na kar rha hota

anyhow

east beta

refer to Sura Baqra verse 183, 216

Sura Tauba verse 24, 111, 112

read arabic and then translate word by word and then understand them ...

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Dr. HAM
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Hurrrrr... Ham, all kafirs are dozakhi & Dozakhi dozakh main nahin jayay ga to .....
In turn u r blaming Allah (SWT) who made the rule.
Also we are not distributing certificates of Heaven, thus ur Jehadis are trying to get them equal to Nabi Pak (SAWW) only who in the whole world is The Mubashir of the kind.
There is no doubt in Kufar of these ppl, anyway if one is blind and wants to remain, what we can do.
So the topic is extremism in Islam, and there indeed is no term or practice like it. The problem is terrorism in islam, and my point of view is that some ppl collected others in the name of their own described Tawheed and establishing a group of reasonable strength and after arranging finance became terrorist. As they were so called muslims, the label of terrorism stuck to islam. And the western media was clever enough to do propaganda out of this. But infact this all was their drama. Planting Wahabia, sponsoring Ismail Dehalwi, establishing Deoband, helping Saudis for concuring Hijaz, slaughtering ppl, turning sacred islamic places into ruins in the name of Jehad, giving birth to so called Jehadis after Soviet invasion (indeed mostly the war lords were gangsters prior to become Jehadis, tell me why once the Jehad of Afghanistan ended, they quarreled upon power of holding the country) and now using Taliban as their tool. Today most of the criminals in tribal areas of Pakistan are Taliban.
Well dear the truth is eminent, if ppl like Usama, Mehsood remain in proclaimed leadership of Jehad, what else be a label to the Ummah. And the double standards of their scholars is, mixing the freedom movement of Kashmir and Palestine with their cause. What is the correlation, they are fighting for their motherland and these slaughtered muslims in the name of holy war and the aim was to take control of the country. Do protect the Al Qaida to get the finance for them, like many of muslim countries governments are tiding them with west.
So what ordinary muslim of these countries got out of it. Being bombed by suicide bombers and facing label of terrorist nationals as they are the one who interact with others alike in western countries.


Bhai 007

Jihadion, Wahabion aur Deobandion ko aek taraf rakho aur batao ke Falasteen se yahoodion ko, Kashmir se hinduon ko, Afghanistan aur Iraq se Amrica bahadur ko kese nikala jaey? Yeh aap ke liye lamha-e-fikria hay. Please suggest what you and Peer saheban recommend for these crises? Aap ke firqay ke kitne bhaaion ne apne sar katwaay hen?

Keep in mind that now All the word is convinced that nine-eleven was not planned and done by Muslims. Yeh Yahoodion ki karastani tha.

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