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Saad Khushal Kiani
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Islamabad Declaration What Danger 4 Mushraf Now Hotest Topic
Hi Dear All, as today PPP and PML-N give all details of declaration which is named as "Islamanad Declaration" what do you think that is there will be any change of it or just like Decleration's before Muree, dubai etc..... please comment it thanks




Hi ,I Am Saad and basically be belongs to Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) but I dont no what they are doing I must say the game they are playing with the nation of is actually unfair and against Mr Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto Shaheed and Mohtrma Banazir Bhutto Shaheed, now its not PPP of Bhutto's Family and the party of people but its a party of Zardai and its fraud Ministers or you can say his cheaters friends and they are proving that they are cheaters please comment on topic thanks.....!!!


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PPP has taken th place of PML-Q. The old leadership have mainly been sidelined in favour of Zardari's new people. They have confirmed from their speaches they will be continueing the past govs. policies and it looks like their corruption as well. How can they justify a cabinet meeting in Dubai, while people can't afford food.

In short my brother, our rulers are corrupt and this brutal non-islamic Nizam we are implementing is also corrupt. The only solution is the impllementation of Islam. Islam is complete way of life and can deal with inflation and all other problems we are facing. Please note I am not refering to Mullah Culture,

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Dear Wassam, You are 100 % correct but what should people do ? because we all get rid of all this discussions ? Mr Nawaz Sharif is doing good but he is helpless to nation and now N-League should make a strong decision before PPP will Kick them out of Govt. ......!!!

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ya its too sad that its not that PPP to whom ppl gave the votes.it has been hijacked by zardari & co. God Bless Pakistan

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Because the PPP is hijacked by the most corrupt un idealogical Zardari & his frontmen.All the idealogical PPP leaders are sidelined for the personal interests & benefits.Bhutto name is only use as a trademark.There is far from reality to compare one of today politics with Z.A.Bhutto,what he has innitiated they are plundering & lootering it.Zardari the oppertunist who was always overshadowed by the Benazir is trying to play the Boss role & lost his thread.
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AoA Dear Saad,

First we need to agree the correct solution then we can discuss how to work for it through peacful means!
When Islam was implemented in the past we were the leading nation and uptil 1924 we could defend ourselves and the honour of Prophet SAW.

Islam can solve inflation, please see below:

Selected points from The Rich Islamic Economic System that would help Check Inflation:

1 Hard Currency – Tied to Gold standard.
Today countries artificially create currency by printing money as required. Whenever our Govt borrows money from SBP it is effectively printing the money and devaluing our currency and the very notes in our pockets over night. This has a big knock on effect on inflation. Scary when you think about it, the very notes in our pockets have no intrinsic value of their own and only possess the value of the paper they are printed on.

The Islamic system requires currency / medium of exchange to be based on the Gold & Silver standard which have an intrinsic value. Notes can be used to represent the precious metals instead of carrying gold and silver around, but they must be backed up by them. Due to the intrinsic value in the precious metals stability is achieved and devaluation and inflation controlled.


2 No Artificial money
As well as printing, money is also artificially created via bank loans. Banks regularly loan out more money than they have and there is in circulation i.e. they lend what they don’t have (e.g. in US in 2007 the debt was seven times the amount of money in actual circulation). This artificial consumer spending power also leads to inflation, as artificially increased money supply is competing in chasing limited goods.

The Islamic system doesn’t only forbid Riba, but also does not allow you to loan what you don’t own or have. Money cannot be pulled out of a rabbit’s hat. Banks cannot produce money.


3 Ownership of Oil, Gas, Natural Resources.
Pricing and inflation is also linked to the cost of energy resources. The price of a barrel of oil is rising exponentially and likewise is the cost of production and transportation. This has a direct effect on the price of all commodities especially the basic necessities such as food items (due to the barbaric Capitalist system, the poor are finding it difficult to buy food). High-energy costs are affected by govt taxes and drive for profits by hungry companies and this contributes to inflation.

Islam’s solution is based on its view of ownership and permissibility of generating profits from natural resources. Islam is the only system that defines 3 types of ownership; individual, public and state property. The Prophet SAW in his Hadith has included natural resources that combust (oil field, gas field, coal mine, etc) as public property as well as other natural resources. Public property can not be transferred to the state or private sector, but remains the property of the public (Muslim Ummah) and is run by the Islamic state for their benefit on a no profit, no tax basis. Any profit generated by selling surplus oil to friendly non-muslim countries must be spent on the Ummah. Imagine you could receive a cheque in the post from the Khalif with your share from the profits generated by oil revenue.
Hence the Islamic view on natural resources would be a pivotal factor in reducing prices and controlling inflation.

4 No hoarding to manipulate supply and demand
We know the capitalists regularly hoard essential items in an attempt to artificially affect supply and demand in order to push up prices. This usually happens under the govts. nose.

The Islamic system would actively prevent hoarding and the artificial manipulation of supply and demand.
5 Revival of Dead Land
The Prophet SAW informed us that a Muslim who revives a dead Khiraji land, which was never cultivated since Muslims opened it, would own the neck as well as its produce. The Prophet SAW also informed us any Muslim or Zimmi (non-Muslim citizen of the Islamic state) who revives a dead Khiraji land on which Khiraj was applied in the past would own the produce, whilst the neck would remain with the State.

The concept being whoever revives a dead land can benefit from it. In Pakistan there is approx 9,709,300 (one crore) Acres of barren land can you imagine the benefit to the state and the populace of reviving this land. This presents a great incentive for poor farm workers and others to take advantage of this Islamic rule and revive dead land and the whole state would benefit. Poverty would be reduced, employment would increase and so would production. Increased production leads to increased supply and therefore cheaper prices and lower inflation.

6 Independence from dictates of Colonial Organisations
Muslim countries do not have independent economic policies but take dictates from colonial organisations such as World Bank, IMF, WTO, etc. These organisations dictate a wide range of policy issues including removal of govt. subsidies on energy resources and subsidies to industry and agriculture. These subsidy removals also lead to higher prices and inflation for the general populace.

The Islamic State would not take dictates from any organisations regarding its policies. The state would enact Islamic policies beneficial to its citizens, without a care for such organisations.



These are just a few aspects of the Islamic economic system that would help lower and control inflation. Islam is a complete way of life and implementing aspects of it in a pick and choose fashion would not achieve the desired result. The complete system must be implemented as other parts are interlinked and work together(social, political, economic, penal, education, etc). The motivation for implementing the Islamic System should be derived from our desire to please our Creator.

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Other aspects of the Islamic Economic System:

1. Company Structure.
a) Al-Inan (The Company of Equals),
b) Al-Abdan (The Company of Bodies),
c) Mudharaba (The Company of Body and Effort),
d) Wujooh (The Company of Reputation),
e) Mufawadha (Combination of Above).


2. Taxation System (Revenue and Expenditure)
No taxes on common man such as GST which does not differentiate between rich, poor, widow, child, etc all have to pay regardless of your economic standing. Wealth Tax, Income Tax, Withholding Tax all have no place in Islam. Islamic Taxes Include:
a) Al-Kharaj,
b) Al-Jizya,
c) Al-Ushr,
d) The Fifth of Al Rikaz (Hidden treasures),
e) Zackat on Import / Export of the Muslim Trader,
f) Hima,
g) Import / Export Duty on Foreign Traders.


3. Types of ownership
a) State Property,
b) Public Property,
c) Private Property.


4. Land Ownership and Land Laws
5. Non Interest banking system.

These are but a few.
Any mistakes or contradictions are from me and not from Islam, as Islam is from our Creator and therefore beyond any error, mistake or contradiction.

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Yes anything that curb the menace of corruption should bee implemented but as you know for that we need a new,honest & inside out Pakistani leadership because Chors cannot implement laws against their own selves.
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It is very sad to see the move of PPP now
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I was not accepting that any one will comment on this issue but its reality its becoming a problem for Pakistan ......


I thank you all for such Nice comments and please mention the solutions if you have any may be it will effect ....

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Yes anything that curb the menace of corruption should bee implemented but as you know for that we need a new,honest & inside out Pakistani leadership because Chors cannot implement laws against their own selves.

thanks for the comments Mr Qazi,

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Very very dissopointing situation in pakistan specially we sitting outside pakistan feel it more, I would say it is not PPP wanted to come in power on the price of losing Party´s idiology. As long as Preseident Musharaff is in power there is no party who can work with their idialogy.
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i think ppp was used to be a good part when big bhutto was dere...now it sems as if its a one man show..and zardari is controllign it.. but i think that even if its a PPP or PML or any other party...there is a need of a good leadership...which all of them are lacking .even nawaz is not a good leader..and he is lookign towards his own seat.
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Thanx Kiani for liking my post,but you are right we have to find or atleast give suggestion for the solution.In my opinion we have to reject all those already proved corrupt,we can give atleast one chance to Imran Khan to prove himself.We do not need a very extra ordinary qualities of leadership.What we need is the honesty,good governance,patriotism,a person who cares for his & nation respect.A person when not corrupt himself can meet anyone at eyes level,we don,t need someone having so many complexes & having apologetic approach.Without honour & national respect we are not a living nation.
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The PPP party has changed to Pakistan Zardari Party. Dont know what is he doing? He cheated all Pakistanis...
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very sad
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"As you sow,so shall you reap" Harram ki bunyadoh par qayam imarat zyada harse qayam nahih rehti.PPP ko tho hijack hona hi tha.
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PPP is doing nothin , no party can do anything with 3 pms , asif , rehman , and gillani
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its good to know what is "haram ki bunyaaden" and which "imaarat" is made on these "bunyaad".

As far as change of leadership is concerned .... everyone should decide based on clear information .......... its very important ......

as far as ppp is concerned ..... i think its a group involving good and bad people like most of other parties ..... in my view most of them are quite intelligent, capable and honest people .... i do not like many policies etc but it may be a difference of opinion ......
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You are right ssmezaan there are good & competent people in PPP & also in other Parties.Firstly the leadership counts,policies of national interest,addressing & delivering of it.The topic is about PPP so I will directly says:All the idealogical,honest,capable & compitent are sidelined,they are non functional or they have theirselves distanced from the Zardari PPP.We do criticise for the sake of improvement,developement & for the sake of Pakistani nation.We do recognise & appreciate the wpositive work of anyone,irrespective of belonging to any party.
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inayat khan qazi wrote:
Thanx Kiani for liking my post,but you are right we have to find or atleast give suggestion for the solution.In my opinion we have to reject all those already proved corrupt,we can give atleast one chance to Imran Khan to prove himself.We do not need a very extra ordinary qualities of leadership.What we need is the honesty,good governance,patriotism,a person who cares for his & nation respect.A person when not corrupt himself can meet anyone at eyes level,we don,t need someone having so many complexes & having apologetic approach.Without honour & national respect we are not a living nation.





I am 100 % with you Mr Qazi..... but Imran Khan have no future in politics he have to give Qurbani like in PPP and PML-N but now we have to give chance to the leading party who is Nawaz Sharif he can show eyes to any one dont think i am from his party but its fact dear , Imaran Khan is good but his party have to do a lot y not we chose the best solution in the nearest ...

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Every good move,positive action & news bring back smile on our faces.We will support any one bring fundamental & drastic changes in our political system.Every one should have the rights to enjoy the resources of the country not only few individuals or families.A real justice system,rule of law so that no one take law in their hands & across the board accountibility.Every one should fullfill their duties,get their due share & rights.We can than enjoy when it is collectively.
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Only a complete change of this corrupt system and removal of these corrupt rulers will achieve a real change!

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ITS NOT A DIFFERNT ONE...ITS HAPPEND IN PAST...ITS HAPPENING NOW AND IT WILL HAPPEN IN FUTURE
WHY WE HAVE EXPECTATIONS WITH PPP...ONLY Z ALI BHUTO WAS GOOD IN HIS TIIME..
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PPP is planning,Visiting & distributing "ROTTI,KAPRRA AUR MAKAN" whereas masses are facing "FAAQA,looking fo "KAFFAN to go to "GORISTAN.Badshah gar sahib is using his touts & frontmen to steal as much they can before they leave or run.
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zardari is doing a good job for himself only he knows he has a very short period of time and wills to grab the reserves of dollars and transfer into his foreign accounts this is the worst leader ship i have seen so far which is doing nothing for the nation and unfortunately our nation has no any other choice because all are corrupt my dua to Allah is to give a sincere and honest leadership for our nation in upcoming future .
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