Is the fulcrum of India-Pakistan ties about to shift to Sind

By Jawed Naqvi

In Agra, President Musharraf and Prime Minister Vajpayee exuded a chemistry that flowed from their linguistic affinity. Vajpayee liked quoting Urdu couplets as he did during the Lahore summit. Remember how he crafted a key speech at the governor’s house there around an emotive poem of peace by Ali Sardar Jaafri. Musharraf was an avid listener in Agra. Barring his difficulty in grasping the frequent reference to “atoot ang” in the context of Kashmir, an awkward expression in Hindi for “integral part”, Musharraf struck a comfortable rapport with Vajpayee.

He also had a largely agreeable relationship with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Musharraf’s difficulty lay in not being on a similar cultural trajectory with Lal Kishan Advani, home minister during the Agra summit and now the opposition’s prime ministerial hopeful for elections due in May next year.

With Monday’s general elections in Pakistan almost certain to produce a government with its base in Sindh, and if Advani’s gambit in India’s parliamentary race in mid-2008 pays off, the two countries could see the fulcrum of their bilateral ties shifting to Sindh. In his condolence message to Asif Zardari in a prompt and emotional reaction to Benazir Bhutto’s assassination, Advani had even recalled his family ties with member’s of the slain leader’s family. If Advani does become prime minister in the next National Democratic Alliance government, what would it mean for Pakistan apart from a cultural affinity located in Karachi, where he was born? On the face of it he has cultivated an image as a hardliner on terrorism and in ties with Pakistan. Often though Advani’s sharp rhetoric has not matched his actions.

In fact the six-year NDA rule when he was regarded as the most powerful man in Vajpayee’s cabinet, wearing the mantle of home minister and deputy prime minister, Advani did everything possible to disabuse his followers of much of the “hardliner” mythology surrounding him. Three or four examples come to mind of which the Kandahar surrender to the hijackers of an Indian Airlines plane in December 1999 has been the most widely discussed. There was first of all the little known case of Hashim Qureishi, an accomplice of

Kashmiri rebel hero Maqbool Butt in the hijacking of an Indian Airlines plane to Lahore in 1971 and its destruction there. Butt was hanged during Indira Gandhi’s watch on Feb 11, 1984 in Delhi’s Tihar Jail after being kept on the death row for several years. Had JKLF men not killed an India diplomat, Maqbool Butt would perhaps not have been executed as he had turned into a vegetable when I saw him in the jail in 1978. When Hashim Qureishi was suddenly nabbed at the Delhi airport on his way from Holland one day, it was credited to Advani’s proactive leadership as it were. In a few weeks the mask was off. Qureishi was entertaining officially handpicked journalists to Pepsi and samosas in his supposedly high security prison in Srinagar. Soon after that he was projecting himself as a chief ministerial candidate in state elections.

And it was Qureishi who alerted me about the earlier decision by the home ministry under Advani’s watch to free six or seven Sikh hijackers who were repatriated from Dubai where they were forced to surrender thanks to Indira Gandhi’s clout as a respected and feared leader. Advani was asked at a news conference about the little noticed release of the Sikh hijackers when they should have been serving life terms handed by special anti-terror court. It was all the more significant to know because Indian agencies had claimed that the hijackers did not have any arms before some kindly official at the Lahore airport handed them a pistol during a refuelling stopover in Lahore. He said he would look into it, but nothing more was ever said or heard about the case. There were two or three other examples where Advani has shown a forgiving side to his nature.

One such pertains to the contrast between his demands as an opposition leader for the early execution of Kashmiri convict Afzal Guru, whose clemency petition is pending with the president. Guru was convicted along with three others for the attack in December 2001 on the Parliament House. The Supreme Court decided to only keep Guru’s conviction intact and turned down all petition’s to set him free. If Guru does get hanged by the next government which Advani is hoping to form, it would not be of a piece with the iron man’s approach to similar cases of death row convicts during his tenure.

In fact it was under Advani’s stewardship that Tamil Nadu Governor Fathima Beevi showed mercy to Nalini, one of the four condemned convicts in the Rajiv Gandhi assassination case, and commuted her death sentence to life imprisonment.

There was, however, to be no clemency for the other three, including Nalini’s husband Murugan, Santhan and Perarivalan, all sentenced to death in January 1998, nearly seven years after the former prime minister met a gory end in Sriperumbudur on May 21, 1991. On May 11, 1998, the Supreme Court confirmed the sentence. That story was oddly enough overshadowed by India’s decision to have its nuclear tests in Pokharan that day. A review petition followed. The Supreme Court rejected it on Oct 8. The convicts then approached the Tamil Nadu governor.

The Tamil Nadu Cabinet in light of the fact that she was the mother of a girl, then eight years old, who was born in prison, recommended clemency for Nalini. Congress president Sonia Gandhi, widow of the late Rajiv Gandhi, had also appealed for clemency for Nalini. Advani, had he been the ogre he is often made out to be, could have pushed for the hangings to be carried out. A softer side in him had clearly prevailed again.

I have heard fellow journalist Iftikhar Gilani recounting a story that again shows the strong man, otherwise credited with disastrous events like the demolition of the Babri masjid, to be an agreeable human being. Gilani was picked up on charges of keeping maps and old write-ups on Indian troop movements in Kashmir, documents that were publicly available on the web. However, the terror of the BJP government was such that one night in Tihar Jail when a barber was summoned to give Gilani a rare bath, his fellow inmates, and the barber himself thought that he was being prepared for execution.

The trial had not begun and Gilani was going to be executed. Such was the fear even hardboiled prisoners at Tihar had of the government of that time.

The bath was ordered by prison authorities to make Gilani “presentable” for an inspection of his condition by the ICRC. To Advani’s credit though, he is authoritatively reported to have turned down permission to proceed with the official secrets act case against Gilani 17 times before the home ministry bureaucracy made it impossible for him to say no. Eventually it was his ministry though that bailed Gilani out against the spurious charges.

The Kandahar hijacking of course has been exploited by every one of Advani’s detractors, most of all by the Congress, to show him in poor light. Maulana Masood Azhar returned to Pakistan from Kandahar to a rapturous hero’s welcome. Omar Sheikh has been sentenced to death in Karachi for his involvement in the brutal assassination of American journalist Daniel Pearl. You could not miss the irony here. The tough sentence that should have gone better with Advani’s no nonsense image was in fact handed to a terrorist he had tamely released. To make it more humiliating the sentence was passed under the watch of a man – President Musharraf – who in Advani’s view had encouraged terrorism in India. As for Mushtaq Zargar, the third man released in the embarrassing Kandahar swap promptly got busy in Muzaffarabad staging the war in Jammu and Kashmir.

All this is more or less in keeping with Advani’s misunderstood personality. But that was not the end of it. In a final affront to the forces of Hindutva, he described Mohammed Ali Jinnah as a secular politician. More recently he was seen holding back tears during the special screening for him of a highly acclaimed movie about the life of brilliant children with learning disabilities. Therefore, Mr Zardari, or whoever else from Sindh gets to rule Pakistan after Monday’s polls should prepare themselves for an emotional tryst with an evidently wronged and misunderstood interlocutor from India should he make it to the top next year.
http://www.dawn.com/weekly/jawed/jawed.htm

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jawednaqvi is a senior correspondant for Dawn in Newdelhi for last 20 years.

The article is very beautifully written by javednaqbi.i am a great fan of him.

Even my friend has a postive feeling about Bjp.He says that bjp only brings up issue bcoz Cpi and congress use minority votes by wooing them unnecessarily even though everyperson gets equal rights/funds in india.

BJP doesnt want to see ISlamic republic of india ,which is justified bcoz ,india is home to 85 crore hindus.

I have been doing deep study and i also found that BJP although is formed on hinduism agenda but it follows the secularism and constitution of its country.

it can be made out that a muslim painter(M F hussain) who has been paiting pictures of hindu godess in nude for last 30 years,is a respected and famous artist of india.He was told to apologize by BJP only after Muslims in india rioted for denmark cartoon issue which has no relevance with india.So BJP realized that why hindus should be so calm once a muslim painter of india is making obscene painting,while muslim clerics(with CPI and muslims party support)are resorting to violence for an issue which happend in denmark.No one should expect 85 crore hindus represenative to be so peaceful if muslim party are using violence,burning things for a uselss isue which has no relation to their homeland.

And BJP ,using M F hussain issue was rightly justified.why shouldnt they support or spread the message to hindus if muslims dont care for indian secular society.

i have great respect for Advani.He was the one who praised Jinnah for what he deserved.
There is no doubt Jinnah was secular.
Advani hailed from pakistan sindh(born in karanchi) and he is a very senior respected BJP indian leader,Now the top contender for PM of india leading BJP party (2009 May election)

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	Even my friend has a postive feeling about Bjp.He says that bjp only brings up issue bcoz Cpi and congress use minority votes by wooing them unnecessarily even though everyperson gets equal rights/funds in india. BJP doesnt want to see ISlamic republic of india ,which is justified bcoz ,india is home to 85 crore hindus.

lol, what a thought, Muslims of Subcontinent always wanted peace and for that reason they want indians to leave them on their own. Hindu majority in India has the opinion of merging the boundaries between india and Pakistan and find the subcontinent again or in other words they want to rule Pakistan as well and they want to form a single India. This is very clear from their claims and their foreign policy. You can read these from the topics of this forum as well.

Muslims of subcontinent on the other hand had a different stance which is more DEFENSIVE. Pakistani muslims are telling indians to LIVE and LET LIVE and drop their evil designs of mixing india with pakistan again. While hindus on the other side of the border want to attack Pakistan and extend their borders till afghanistan so that they can rule the so called "ancient india" again.

I donot believe you are a muslim or if by any chance you are a muslim then you must be from india. Indian muslims have some sort of this weird inferiority complex of being left behind after partition by Pakistani muslims which is completely wrong. So now they have become nationalists, they are more indians than muslims. This is what I have learnt from all indian muslims I have met till yet, which is absolutely against the teachings of Islam.

your source of information is only media, be it indian media or english media you will always see the wrong side or one side of the picture, the other side you wont be able to see until or unless you visit those places and spend a considerable amount of time.

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I have been doing deep study and i also found that BJP although is formed on hinduism agenda but it follows the secularism and constitution of its country.

it can be made out that a muslim painter(M F hussain) who has been paiting pictures of hindu godess in nude for last 30 years,is a respected and famous artist of india.He was told to apologize by BJP only after Muslims in india rioted for denmark cartoon issue which has no relevance with india.So BJP realized that why hindus should be so calm once a muslim painter of india is making obscene painting,while muslim clerics(with CPI and muslims party support)are resorting to violence for an issue which happend in denmark.No one should expect 85 crore hindus represenative to be so peaceful if muslim party are using violence,burning things for a uselss isue which has no relation to their homeland.And BJP ,using M F hussain issue was rightly justified.why shouldnt they support or spread the message to hindus if muslims dont care for indian secular society.

People have a very stupid concept of secularism, just as they see modernism. True essence of secularism is not what you read in the constitution, its what you see people practicing there. I completely disagree to the idea of india being secular, until or unless they stop calling kashmir their atoot ang and they call it integral part of india just on the base of religion. This is uttelry ridiculous, they claim at one hand they are secular and then they say kashmir is their part because all their gods came from KAshmir.

To the arguement of that muslim artist, pictures and idols are allowed in hinduism while they are not in Islam, and for your information there were protests against that artist's and its only that you were not mentally born those days, or probably still growing.
Islam has completely different structure as compared to hindus, Islam is universal, and whatever happens in this universe which is related to Islam affects muslim, whether the cartoons were published in denmark, china or on the moon, they should have been condemned strongly, not just by Pakistani muslims but indian muslims as well, there shouldnt be any tolerance for those people who have no tolerance for you. and if MF hussain makes wronged pictures of hindu gods that is wrong as well because that is not the message of Islam because 1) pictures are not allowed in islam 2) Islam teaches you tolerance, it doesnt teach you arrogance, hindus shouldnt be arrogant as well, they should have protested against that M F hussain if the pictures were inappropriate or were false. so indian muslims shouldnt care about so called homeland they should care for their religion otherwise this great religion will extinguish from their lives. Muslims cannot be secular, they cannot be NON RELIGIOUS if they do they wont be muslims anymore. So Muslims of Pakistan or india dont want to be secular and they shouldnt be.
I should admit here that peoeple like you who have this secular thinking know the genuine way to trip off muslims like myself. stop pretending like a muslim and come out in open from your real name. This strategy of spreading wronged ideas amongst muslims by pretending to be a muslim wont work. Its the thinking that makes you muslim, and clearly your thinking is not any closer to a true muslim.

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	i have great respect for Advani.He was the one who praised Jinnah for what he deserved. There is no doubt Jinnah was secular. Advani hailed from pakistan sindh(born in karanchi) and he is a very senior respected BJP indian leader,Now the top contender for PM of india leading BJP party (2009 May election)

as I said earlier the way you talk it clearly seems that you are an indian undercover, or your knowledge is nothing but a complete pile of mess, which came from indian side. read the meanings of being secular and try to find it in their society not by sitting on internet and searching for secularly engraved articles but by their history and psychology.

I can see what happens to muslims who are born and brought up abroad, they have no concept or idea about Islam whatsoever, raising your children abroad is like throwing them in fire and complete waste of their lives and muslim generations(with a few exceptions), if Islam goes towards extinction God forbid, the major contributers will be the muslims who were brought up abroad who might be able to grasp british or foreign culture and blend into it they are the ones who are unable to understand true islam and passing on the false image of Islam to their generations. and this is equally applicable to muslims back home. these people are like a herd of swines who live their lives on no purpose without any ideology or vision in mind.

eh, secularism!

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	indian muslims shouldnt care about so called homeland they should care for their religion otherwise this great religion will extinguish from their lives. Muslims cannot be secular, they cannot be NON RELIGIOUS if they do they wont be muslims anymore. So Muslims of Pakistan or india dont want to be secular and they shouldnt be.

Dont ever talk to me like this.what do you think of yourself.

I am a muslim.My grandfather migrated to UK before independence.i am a british and not pakistani.

My grandfather although hailed from punjab (pak) but at that time ,it was india.

you are right,i call myself indian.

i support india.They are secular,developing and a great nation.
its not like pakistan who keeps fighting.
I have many Indian friends mainly hindus and few indian muslims.They have high moral,secular values and they know how to respect woman.
and i dont like pakistanis who are arrogant,anti woman and the educated lots are like you.

Educated Hindus respect woman,and they are so polite,moderate and composed.

And i have a hindu bf.we celebrate Dipawali and Eid together.

and indian muslims here are all different from pakistanis ones.They socialize with us,behave like cultured persons.

They think high about their country.I love their feeling of nationalism.And in the college there are also some pakistanis who have recently started coming bcoz of some Pakistan govt scholarship for higher studies.

They are not good in anything.Indians are in top 10 in every stream.And i hardly see any pakistani in top 10.
why should i call myself pakistani? i am a british with indian origin.

My ancestors lived in united india.

And what do you know about them?

They are the best brains in each field.
Bcoz of pakistanis who have started flooding UK,we have to face some problems.Most of people who are involved in terrorism are pakistanis.They are creating problem for us.And Cops are 24 hrs ready to get hold of this terrorists from pakistan.They bust 10 in a month.

So you think now ,how tolerant pakistani muslims in UK.

Go to some pakistani area in UK,they all hate pakistani who come here to spread terror.Please stay in your country and dont pollute UK

Luckily we stay with indians.Indian politicians command so high respect.Once musharaf comes ,he is treated like normal person.And once indian politicians come ,they are given royal treatment.They are treated as par with P5 and G8.
Cops here regularly check up places.we are staying for 70 years .so we dont face problems.But they keep checking at different places.I being woman have hardly been asked,but i see my male friends.And they just reply to cops that they are indians.Cops dont feel like checking them.

We didnt want divided india.Forget hindus,even i also have pity on pakistan.India was my homeland and i call myself a NRI.i will visit india with my Bf next year.And if i marry him,then i will also get indian citizenship.

Why will india want to acquire pakistan?They don want to embrace people like you who although educated but talk no less than a mullah fanatic.

Dont treat all muslims like pakistanis.pakistan name is a omen in UK.

noor.yours wrote:

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	indian muslims shouldnt care about so called homeland they should care for their religion otherwise this great religion will extinguish from their lives. Muslims cannot be secular, they cannot be NON RELIGIOUS if they do they wont be muslims anymore. So Muslims of Pakistan or india dont want to be secular and they shouldnt be.

Dont ever talk to me like this.what do you think of yourself.

I am a muslim.My grandfather migrated to UK before independence.i am a british and not pakistani.

My grandfather although hailed from punjab (pak) but at that time ,it was india.

you are right,i call myself indian.

i support india.They are secular,developing and a great nation.
its not like pakistan who keeps fighting.
I have many Indian friends mainly hindus and few indian muslims.They have high moral,secular values and they know how to respect woman.
and i dont like pakistanis who are arrogant,anti woman and the educated lots are like you.

Educated Hindus respect woman,and they are so polite,moderate and composed.

And i have a hindu bf.we celebrate Dipawali and Eid together.

and indian muslims here are all different from pakistanis ones.They socialize with us,behave like cultured persons.

They think high about their country.I love their feeling of nationalism.And in the college there are also some pakistanis who have recently started coming bcoz of some Pakistan govt scholarship for higher studies.

They are not good in anything.Indians are in top 10 in every stream.And i hardly see any pakistani in top 10.
why should i call myself pakistani? i am a british with indian origin.

My ancestors lived in united india.

And what do you know about them?

They are the best brains in each field.
Bcoz of pakistanis who have started flooding UK,we have to face some problems.Most of people who are involved in terrorism are pakistanis.They are creating problem for us.And Cops are 24 hrs ready to get hold of this terrorists from pakistan.They bust 10 in a month.

So you think now ,how tolerant pakistani muslims in UK.

Go to some pakistani area in UK,they all hate pakistani who come here to spread terror.Please stay in your country and dont pollute UK

Luckily we stay with indians.Indian politicians command so high respect.Once musharaf comes ,he is treated like normal person.And once indian politicians come ,they are given royal treatment.They are treated as par with P5 and G8.
Cops here regularly check up places.we are staying for 70 years .so we dont face problems.But they keep checking at different places.I being woman have hardly been asked,but i see my male friends.And they just reply to cops that they are indians.Cops dont feel like checking them.

We didnt want divided india.Forget hindus,even i also have pity on pakistan.India was my homeland and i call myself a NRI.i will visit india with my Bf next year.And if i marry him,then i will also get indian citizenship.

Why will india want to acquire pakistan?They don want to embrace people like you who although educated but talk no less than a mullah fanatic.

Dont treat all muslims like pakistanis.pakistan name is a omen in UK.

well, I wouldnt tell you to change your religion because I dont want to take this curse just in case.
First of all let me tell you something which you know very well and that is that you are not a british, yes you are an indian.
a day time story that once upon a time there was an indian guy here on this forum who was properly bashed by proud Pakistanis here, but he kept coming as he is now; changing ids, sometimes using muslims ids, sometimes muslim girls ids. All he is doing is trying to create problems for muslims, I wonder if he sleeps well at night, afterll he is a bloo.. hindu and wonder how he feels by shouting under a muslim id, what they say as "untouchable muslims(concept taken from subcontinent)". he tried to find any way to a low life survival.

Now you dont sound british at all, lol Cops. So however I know that you are not a muslim and probably the same person who have been coming here under different ids, I would still repeat myself. and if you still believe that you are a british and a muslim then just drop me your mobile number, I would like to meet you in britain, I want to see this arrogant reality, this person who is ditched down into the depth of inferiority/superiority complex. So lets meet somewhere in UK

The stuff I am gona say is probably a repetition and is basically meant for a muslim not for you, but anyway whoever reads this text will get the true message.

In my previous posts I didnt say that we want you to be called as pakistani or you are a pakistani. there are a few reasons why I didnt say that, I was only saying that try to be called as a muslim rather a pakistani, saudi, egyptian or afghani. I was only trying to tell you that there is no essence of nationalism based on terrritories in islam, muslim nationalism is religious nationalism and its boundaries may be birth and death, I appreciate the nationalism for the country but that is a secondary thing which comes after being a nationalist as a muslim. One more reason is that even if you were muslim, we would never accept people like you in Pakistan, we dont need an indian filth who have a corrupt thinking about their own religion, we want to keep our country clean and tidy. and for your information, before partition the area based on present pakistan, india and bangladesh was called as subcontinent not India.

About all that crap you said about religion, I would like you to first tell me what is the meaning of "secularism"; you might have a self crafted definition of this word, and for that you are extremely wronged.

for your information, I dont want to boast here, but pakistanis here work for top companies. Pakistan might be an omen in your eyes but I proudly tell everyone that I am from Pakistan and I stand by it, I dont hide from anyone here being a Pakistani or muslim as some people like you might have been doing this by not revealing that you are an indian, I dont know where does this inferiority complex come from. We have paki boys working in all bluetooth companies at top positions, I myself work for a petroleum giant.
But anyway this is not the criteria in my eyes of evaluating someone based on how good they do, the only criteria is being better muslims and hence being better humans, and I personally think that muslims are far better humans than hindus and for this reason I would like to offer you to convert to Islam so that you can be recognised as a human being lol.

I appreciate your effort of fooling people here about your identity, I dont think someone from britain could speak the way you are, because whatever fake information you are passing on is completely false, it shows how far you go in your designs being a bloo.. hindu brahaman and how ingenuine is your talk in terms of pretending to be a british.

So again lets meet somewhere in UK, pass me on your number I am up for it, lets see if you are for real.

ALLAH HO AKBAR
(ALLAH is Greatest of all)
Pakistan Zindabad

i know pakistan govt(HEC) had paid a lot of money to send its uneducated graduates to UK to do Masters,that doesnt make you people literate .Getting a job in British petorleum/Chevron is nothing great.After all ,processes are automoated,and working for a company is like a doing B grade copy-paste job.

Are you into research?

No..Then you are nothing.A child who has know Phy,CHem can do those jobs in a refinery/petroleum sector.

Everyone who does decent graduation knows elementary subjects.

There are millions of people working for such jobs in world.
do you know what a bluetooth is ?And if 1% of 100 tech graduates get a job in Blue tooth ,that doesnt change the image of pakistan which is a "Failed state".

you lack any kind of common sense.wow you want to meet me?i dont want to meet barbaric people like you.

you are a lump of filth on this earth.and remember that all of you will be thrown out of UK with in 2 years.you are a Fanatic.Give me your no. i will hand over to police here and next day you will get deported to your filth place.

Dont pollute UK.

Go to pakistan and die with taliban

noor.yours wrote:

i know pakistan govt(HEC) had paid a lot of money to send its uneducated graduates to UK to do Masters,that doesnt make you people literate .Getting a job in British petorleum/Chevron is nothing great.After all ,processes are automoated,and working for a company is like a doing B grade copy-paste job.

Are you into research?

No..Then you are nothing.A child who has know Phy,CHem can do those jobs in a refinery/petroleum sector.

Everyone who does decent graduation knows elementary subjects.

There are millions of people working for such jobs in world.
do you know what a bluetooth is ?And if 1% of 100 tech graduates get a job in Blue tooth ,that doesnt change the image of pakistan which is a "Failed state".

you lack any kind of common sense.wow you want to meet me?i dont want to meet barbaric people like you.

you are a lump of filth on this earth.and remember that all of you will be thrown out of UK with in 2 years.you are a Fanatic.Give me your no. i will hand over to police here and next day you will get deported to your filth place.

Dont pollute UK.

Go to pakistan and die with taliban

lol, I only respectably asked to meet you which you have denied, which clearly means you are no real Very Happy

, I have no problem in meeting people like you and by the way I am a barbaric person but praise to great police of britain they can take care of me and I can meet you peacefully. secondly you can call police and tell them that a terrorist is coming to meet you and that they should arrest me how about that? Wink

I am still ready to meet you Very Happy

lol, how do you know my qualifications? by the way thanks for saying that I am here on MSc scholarship, cuz actually I am only matric pass (I only passed the tenth grade) and now working as a labour; as I said greatness is in being a human not a hindu or not being highly qualified. Hinduism is a curse on this planet, the other face of the devil; thats what everyone understand about hinduism, based on myths.

The next step on this forum should be to stop people like you, there should be a proof of identity before anyone can register on here.
lets do it again

ALLAH HO AKBAR

Pakistan Zindabad

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Oh i dont believe this! this transvestite is spreading crap over here too.

Dude i was just posting a reply for her/him here lol

http://www.forumpakistan.com/jodhaa-akbar-review-t7319.html

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	Alex9090 wrote:
	Oh i dont believe this! this transvestite is spreading crap over here too. Dude i was just posting a reply for her/him here lol http://www.forumpakistan.com/jodhaa-akbar-review-t7319.html

and I didnt know that he is sending crap over there tooo, lets swap the topics for now Very Happy

ugwaraich wrote:

	Alex9090 wrote:
	Oh i dont believe this! this transvestite is spreading crap over here too. Dude i was just posting a reply for her/him here lol http://www.forumpakistan.com/jodhaa-akbar-review-t7319.html

and I didnt know that he is sending crap over there tooo, lets swap the topics for now Very Happy

Yea i dont understand these people. Why come here and hang out wen u have nothing constructive to add. NAAHHH i know exactly why!

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ugwaraich wrote:

noor.yours wrote:

i know pakistan govt(HEC) had paid a lot of money to send its uneducated graduates to UK to do Masters,that doesnt make you people literate .Getting a job in British petorleum/Chevron is nothing great.After all ,processes are automoated,and working for a company is like a doing B grade copy-paste job.

Are you into research?

No..Then you are nothing.A child who has know Phy,CHem can do those jobs in a refinery/petroleum sector.

Everyone who does decent graduation knows elementary subjects.

There are millions of people working for such jobs in world.
do you know what a bluetooth is ?And if 1% of 100 tech graduates get a job in Blue tooth ,that doesnt change the image of pakistan which is a "Failed state".

you lack any kind of common sense.wow you want to meet me?i dont want to meet barbaric people like you.

you are a lump of filth on this earth.and remember that all of you will be thrown out of UK with in 2 years.you are a Fanatic.Give me your no. i will hand over to police here and next day you will get deported to your filth place.

Dont pollute UK.

Go to pakistan and die with taliban

lol, I only respectably asked to meet you which you have denied, which clearly means you are no real Very Happy

, I have no problem in meeting people like you and by the way I am a barbaric person but praise to great police of britain they can take care of me and I can meet you peacefully. secondly you can call police and tell them that a terrorist is coming to meet you and that they should arrest me how about that? Wink

I am still ready to meet you Very Happy

lol, how do you know my qualifications? by the way thanks for saying that I am here on MSc scholarship, cuz actually I am only matric pass (I only passed the tenth grade) and now working as a labour; as I said greatness is in being a human not a hindu or not being highly qualified. Hinduism is a curse on this planet, the other face of the devil; thats what everyone understand about hinduism, based on myths.

The next step on this forum should be to stop people like you, there should be a proof of identity before anyone can register on here.
lets do it again

ALLAH HO AKBAR

Pakistan Zindabad

Every week,we hear a few bunch of paki fanatics who are part of taliban nexus.
its not my business to know that you are working as a labour or Research scholar.
Noone is asking you about other religion.This is the main difference between backward radical and forward people .
You all are screwd in your own mess.And if you all continue to trouble UK ,they wont mind deporting all of you irrespective of your qualification.

I havent violated any rules of the site.But if the administrator wants to ban me ,then i know how to use my methods.

First of all i am on a firewall.so Noone can detect my IP address.
and if someone tries to ban my ID for no reason,then site might face DOS.

Dont bother about my address or no.I am not saying that you are on scholarships,but most of pakis in UK who have cme recently are funded for Masters by HEC.