is HINDUSTAN our enemy?

If Hindustan is how to finish this Tussle ?
plz b Neutral
No vulgar/abusive comments
Just mature discussion

thnx

nearly twenty ppl replied 2 d topic not evn a single one had any idea(s) how v can settle this trouble no wonder for past 60 years thusand of mother have lost their beloved sons/daughters
thats a shame on us as a human

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I dont think so that he's our enemy.We have just only wasted 60 years in war and that war was not ours ... the Army Dictators had played a great role in it whenever they see that India is ageeing with them they are happy but when India says No to someone(as they are democratic country having mature politicians) the dictators decide to go till the end that is A New War.

I think no Pakistani Democratic Govt. Would Fight Against India.

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xclusive wrote:

I dont think so that he's our enemy.We have just only wasted 60 years in war and that war was not ours ... the Army Dictators had played a great role in it whenever they see that India is ageeing with them they are happy but when India says No to someone(as they are democratic country having mature politicians) the dictators decide to go till the end that is A New War.

I think no Pakistani Democratic Govt. Would Fight Against India.

lol

Pakistanis must know the indian (Bharat Mata/Hindustan) strategy to dismember pakistan from the end of kargil to present day
A Pakistan Think Tank Analysis :Tuesday, 09-11-07: India knows that it cannot destroy Pakistan militarily. The Kargil Debacle ,ending in the humiliating request by India to U.S. to save their encircled Army Corps in Leh and Drass, was the last nail in the coffin of the Indian Plan A. However, Plan B was put into affect after the realization, that the risk of direct confrontation with Pakistan would lead to total annhilation, has been put into action.

The Indian Plan B is to Split Pakistan (based on past East Pakistan experience) is not only focused on BLA type organizations. It is multi-pronged and includes numerous facets :

1) Financial support of subversive elements in North and South Waziristan to attack Pakistani troops

2) Use of anti-government "mullas" to create an image in their madrassas and thousands of talib-ilms that Pakistan Army is a "Kafir Army," because it supports the U.S. and NATO troops. In this effort Indian strategy runs counter to the U.S. and NATO objectives and plans, both of them want a stable Pakistan.

3)Use financial rewards to the rebellious "mullas" including Taliban through the Jalalabad and Kandahar consulate and active RAW agents among the Northern Alliance and Afghans recruited from large middle class Afghan refugees living in New Delhi.

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So the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan is bulvarized on Monday. 41 people including 4 Indians have died in the attack. Among the dead, the Indian Defence attache in Afghanistan and the alleged brain-child of the anti-Pakistan activities in Afghanistan Brig R Mehta and the press counsellor V Venkat Rao and two other Indian security guards. Fingers are already being pointed at the Pakistani Intelligence Service ISI by the Afghanis and the Indian media.

Frankly speaking, this attack should not have come as a surprise to the Indians especially since they have been pursuing policies that are reckless and damage their own strategic interests in the long run. Afghanistan can and will never become India’s base where they can roam freely threatening Pakistani interests and in the process undermining Western plans to stabilize the country.

According to these sources the spate of suicide bombings targeting US led ISAF forces in Afghanistan and targets inside Pakistan, have a distinct Indian signature. The two Indian Consulates at Kandahar and Jalalabad, in particular, located along Pakistani border, as suspected since long, are playing a pivotal role in fanning the fires of violence and turmoil by cultivating Taliban elements through a heavy flow of cash and arms and hoisting perverted ideological motivations to those unfazed by cash and looking to die for a’ cuties’.

Taliban’s ‘India Connection’ was recently revealed when in Kabul, Afghan police apprehended an Indian national from district Zarai of Kandahar province on September 3, 2007. The Indian agent, operating under cover as a Pakistani, was held on charges of assisting and financing Taliban militants in the region. He was shifted to Kabul for detailed interrogation on September 8, 2007. Afghan police investigations established the identity of the suspect as Rohit Vashisht, son of Padam Dev Sharma, belonging to Ranchi district in Bihar province of India. Vashisht had traveled from India to Kabul on passport No. G-3032400 issued on June 1, 2007 and when apprehended, was masquerading as a Pakistani, duly sustained by appropriate dress, complexion and fluency in Urdu. He confessed to, during initial interrogation by Afghan police in Kandahar, of acting as conduit for providing finances and facilitates recruiting elements among Taliban to carryout suicide attacks targeting Pakistan and ISAF forces.

The article also points to recent arrests of Indian operatives who have been caught red-handed
In another such incident recently, an Indian agent operating under cover as member of a medical team in Jalalabad, was caught red handed while working for RAW and cultivating patients for recruitment as suicide bombers. Instead of following up on the case the individual was repatriated quietly to India. Similarly, another Indian agent named Muhammad Tariq was arrested on March 6, 2007 in Jalalabad and remained under custody for five days. Some sensitive documents were recovered from his possession. During interrogation he confessed to working for RAW in Kabul but he was silently and inexplicably released. Vashisht case proved no different. It is reflective of the Indian influence with the levers of power in Afghanistan that despite over-whelming presence of incriminating evidence, intelligence agencies and police authorities released Rohit Vashisht on September 15, 2007 without further ado. To provide an alibi Afghan interrogators declared Rohit Vashisht as mentally deranged and repatriated him back to India on September 16, 2007, through assistance provided by the Indian Embassy in Kabul.

Indians retaliations following the death of their Afghan plan brain-child is likely to involve a tit-for-tat attacks on Pakistani assests especially Sri Lanka and Afghanistan. Already, 6 bomb attacks have went off in Karachi following the embassy bombing. Brig R Mehta is not your every-day potatoe. India will most likely retaliate. The question to be asked is to what degree.

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In the question remains, does ordinary Pakistan realize who are they really supporting when they support extremists (Indian connection) disguising under 'true Islam' or do they support their own country, people and culture.

Priya Das

P.S. It is funny that Pakistani Hindus have to come to the defense of Pakistan culture against Hindu majority India/Bharat Mata/Hindustan, simply because Pakistanis at large (Muslims) are so gullable and not able to see past anyone waving of 'true Islam' Did I mention those 'true Islam' people are not really Muslims ? Smile

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yup y not india is tha biggest enemy of pakistan

agar doost hota to kashmir hamaray pass hota
agar doost hota to bangladeesh nahi banta kabhi

Raa kay Agent pakistan me ghoom rahe hain afghanistan se beth kar attack karwatay hain

Baal thakray jisko indian Govt. ko support hasil hai pakistan ko tabah kar kay hindu state banana chahta hai

or Shew sina jinka manshoor hi pakistan ko hindustann me dekhna hai ....or indian govt. ki full support me ye loog yahan masjid me or market me khud khush blast karwatah hain

mushy good one

xclusive wrote:

I dont think so that he's our enemy.We have just only wasted 60 years in war and that war was not ours ... the Army Dictators had played a great role in it whenever they see that India is ageeing with them they are happy but when India says No to someone(as they are democratic country having mature politicians) the dictators decide to go till the end that is A New War.

I think no Pakistani Democratic Govt. Would Fight Against India.

aap ki sadgi par sirf afsos kar saktay hein

Its extremly refreshing to know that pakistan has people, non-muslim, who love the country as much if not more than there muslim counterparts. I salute you miss, from the bottom of my hart!

With regards a muslim par-desi!

No, not any more.

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a emaan walo apni dushmani main tum yahood aur mushrikeen ko sab se sakht pao gay ,....

anybody here read quran?

Mushrikeen = hindustan

ganday paleed mushrik

cow, rat and everything they are worshiping except the true lord i.e. ALLAH subhan wa talla

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yes india is our enemy whenever they got chance they go do stupid things. History shows

Our history has shown that India has never accepted the creation of Pakistan and has always tried to harm us. Therefore, questioning whteher India is our enemy is pretty naive and frankly, stupid.

India has itself proven that it is indeed our enemy.

	jamjee wrote:
	No, not any more.

I think india is our neighber and we should have good relation with india.

WELL...i m a paki and acoording to my opinion
We pakis r the biggest enemies of ourselves..just look at our history ,the main things to stabilize our country nobody hav ever done

Bonethug,if you are calling yourself a Paki shows the level of your love for Pakistan.It is your mindset,manufacturing fault,complexes Or your origin.it is easy to blame & shift responsibilities on others,be a man & fullfill your duties as a member of a nation(if you consider).We know our problems but does it mean always to cry, feel sorry for ourselves & curse Pakistan.One should give views according to the topic.We want no friendship with anyone when not based on mutual respect,good intentions & without solving the outstanding political issues,because we think rational that it will not be durable & longlasting.

	sarfarazlovesu wrote:
	a emaan walo apni dushmani main tum yahood aur mushrikeen ko sab se sakht pao gay ,.... anybody here read quran? Mushrikeen = hindustan ganday paleed mushrik cow, rat and everything they are worshiping except the true lord i.e. ALLAH subhan wa talla

With all due respect 2 what u said my brother
When I said OUR I mean PAKISTANIS
There all millions of non muslims who live in Pakistan n luv their home land equally. best example would b miss DAS
N sir u av 2 understand Pakistan is a democratic state where every 1 is equal n whn u talk about Hindustan u shud always keep in ur mind that country has d largest muslim population in dis wrld
So with all due respect dnt make it a religious issue thnx
zeeshan

Is there any doubt that these hindus are our enemies?

they are constructing dams on our rivers .... they are stopping our water resources ....

they are killing our muslim brothers and raping our sisters in kashmir

have you read what they did in Gujurat in 2002

Hindus with the help of armed forces raped our muslims sister and killed all the muslims available and burned

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mushytail wrote:

Pakistanis must know the indian (Bharat Mata/Hindustan) strategy to dismember pakistan from the end of kargil to present day
A Pakistan Think Tank Analysis :Tuesday, 09-11-07: India knows that it cannot destroy Pakistan militarily. The Kargil Debacle ,ending in the humiliating request by India to U.S. to save their encircled Army Corps in Leh and Drass, was the last nail in the coffin of the Indian Plan A. However, Plan B was put into affect after the realization, that the risk of direct confrontation with Pakistan would lead to total annhilation, has been put into action.

The Indian Plan B is to Split Pakistan (based on past East Pakistan experience) is not only focused on BLA type organizations. It is multi-pronged and includes numerous facets :

1) Financial support of subversive elements in North and South Waziristan to attack Pakistani troops

2) Use of anti-government "mullas" to create an image in their madrassas and thousands of talib-ilms that Pakistan Army is a "Kafir Army," because it supports the U.S. and NATO troops. In this effort Indian strategy runs counter to the U.S. and NATO objectives and plans, both of them want a stable Pakistan.

3)Use financial rewards to the rebellious "mullas" including Taliban through the Jalalabad and Kandahar consulate and active RAW agents among the Northern Alliance and Afghans recruited from large middle class Afghan refugees living in New Delhi.

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So the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan is bulvarized on Monday. 41 people including 4 Indians have died in the attack. Among the dead, the Indian Defence attache in Afghanistan and the alleged brain-child of the anti-Pakistan activities in Afghanistan Brig R Mehta and the press counsellor V Venkat Rao and two other Indian security guards. Fingers are already being pointed at the Pakistani Intelligence Service ISI by the Afghanis and the Indian media.

Frankly speaking, this attack should not have come as a surprise to the Indians especially since they have been pursuing policies that are reckless and damage their own strategic interests in the long run. Afghanistan can and will never become India’s base where they can roam freely threatening Pakistani interests and in the process undermining Western plans to stabilize the country.

According to these sources the spate of suicide bombings targeting US led ISAF forces in Afghanistan and targets inside Pakistan, have a distinct Indian signature. The two Indian Consulates at Kandahar and Jalalabad, in particular, located along Pakistani border, as suspected since long, are playing a pivotal role in fanning the fires of violence and turmoil by cultivating Taliban elements through a heavy flow of cash and arms and hoisting perverted ideological motivations to those unfazed by cash and looking to die for a’ cuties’.

Taliban’s ‘India Connection’ was recently revealed when in Kabul, Afghan police apprehended an Indian national from district Zarai of Kandahar province on September 3, 2007. The Indian agent, operating under cover as a Pakistani, was held on charges of assisting and financing Taliban militants in the region. He was shifted to Kabul for detailed interrogation on September 8, 2007. Afghan police investigations established the identity of the suspect as Rohit Vashisht, son of Padam Dev Sharma, belonging to Ranchi district in Bihar province of India. Vashisht had traveled from India to Kabul on passport No. G-3032400 issued on June 1, 2007 and when apprehended, was masquerading as a Pakistani, duly sustained by appropriate dress, complexion and fluency in Urdu. He confessed to, during initial interrogation by Afghan police in Kandahar, of acting as conduit for providing finances and facilitates recruiting elements among Taliban to carryout suicide attacks targeting Pakistan and ISAF forces.

The article also points to recent arrests of Indian operatives who have been caught red-handed
In another such incident recently, an Indian agent operating under cover as member of a medical team in Jalalabad, was caught red handed while working for RAW and cultivating patients for recruitment as suicide bombers. Instead of following up on the case the individual was repatriated quietly to India. Similarly, another Indian agent named Muhammad Tariq was arrested on March 6, 2007 in Jalalabad and remained under custody for five days. Some sensitive documents were recovered from his possession. During interrogation he confessed to working for RAW in Kabul but he was silently and inexplicably released. Vashisht case proved no different. It is reflective of the Indian influence with the levers of power in Afghanistan that despite over-whelming presence of incriminating evidence, intelligence agencies and police authorities released Rohit Vashisht on September 15, 2007 without further ado. To provide an alibi Afghan interrogators declared Rohit Vashisht as mentally deranged and repatriated him back to India on September 16, 2007, through assistance provided by the Indian Embassy in Kabul.

Indians retaliations following the death of their Afghan plan brain-child is likely to involve a tit-for-tat attacks on Pakistani assests especially Sri Lanka and Afghanistan. Already, 6 bomb attacks have went off in Karachi following the embassy bombing. Brig R Mehta is not your every-day potatoe. India will most likely retaliate. The question to be asked is to what degree.

==================================

In the question remains, does ordinary Pakistan realize who are they really supporting when they support extremists (Indian connection) disguising under 'true Islam' or do they support their own country, people and culture.

Priya Das

P.S. It is funny that Pakistani Hindus have to come to the defense of Pakistan culture against Hindu majority India/Bharat Mata/Hindustan, simply because Pakistanis at large (Muslims) are so gullable and not able to see past anyone waving of 'true Islam' Did I mention those 'true Islam' people are not really Muslims ? Smile

i think she has gone mad india is a far more better country then pakistan. look at india developement they are developing at good pace. pakistan is a poor country. look at india bollywood and compare it with you k.uf shit loolywood.

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no.......

Nope dont think so

salam

Bhai ji India Hi hamra real enemy hai aa kul wo afghanistan min betha sari planing ker raha hai or jo bhi balochistan main problem hain sub kai connection india sai miltai hain... kuch or bhi news hain jo abhi clear nahi hain khair india hamara real dushman hai

Thanks

sinha wrote:

mushytail wrote:

Pakistanis must know the indian (Bharat Mata/Hindustan) strategy to dismember pakistan from the end of kargil to present day
A Pakistan Think Tank Analysis :Tuesday, 09-11-07: India knows that it cannot destroy Pakistan militarily. The Kargil Debacle ,ending in the humiliating request by India to U.S. to save their encircled Army Corps in Leh and Drass, was the last nail in the coffin of the Indian Plan A. However, Plan B was put into affect after the realization, that the risk of direct confrontation with Pakistan would lead to total annhilation, has been put into action.

The Indian Plan B is to Split Pakistan (based on past East Pakistan experience) is not only focused on BLA type organizations. It is multi-pronged and includes numerous facets :

1) Financial support of subversive elements in North and South Waziristan to attack Pakistani troops

2) Use of anti-government "mullas" to create an image in their madrassas and thousands of talib-ilms that Pakistan Army is a "Kafir Army," because it supports the U.S. and NATO troops. In this effort Indian strategy runs counter to the U.S. and NATO objectives and plans, both of them want a stable Pakistan.

3)Use financial rewards to the rebellious "mullas" including Taliban through the Jalalabad and Kandahar consulate and active RAW agents among the Northern Alliance and Afghans recruited from large middle class Afghan refugees living in New Delhi.

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well well well here v go again
listen y dnt u grasp d idea it meant 2 b a discussion forum not a bloo.. shizzle contest
if u really wana say sum fin read d topic n thn av ur say

So the Indian Embassy in Afghanistan is bulvarized on Monday. 41 people including 4 Indians have died in the attack. Among the dead, the Indian Defence attache in Afghanistan and the alleged brain-child of the anti-Pakistan activities in Afghanistan Brig R Mehta and the press counsellor V Venkat Rao and two other Indian security guards. Fingers are already being pointed at the Pakistani Intelligence Service ISI by the Afghanis and the Indian media.

Frankly speaking, this attack should not have come as a surprise to the Indians especially since they have been pursuing policies that are reckless and damage their own strategic interests in the long run. Afghanistan can and will never become India’s base where they can roam freely threatening Pakistani interests and in the process undermining Western plans to stabilize the country.

According to these sources the spate of suicide bombings targeting US led ISAF forces in Afghanistan and targets inside Pakistan, have a distinct Indian signature. The two Indian Consulates at Kandahar and Jalalabad, in particular, located along Pakistani border, as suspected since long, are playing a pivotal role in fanning the fires of violence and turmoil by cultivating Taliban elements through a heavy flow of cash and arms and hoisting perverted ideological motivations to those unfazed by cash and looking to die for a’ cuties’.

Taliban’s ‘India Connection’ was recently revealed when in Kabul, Afghan police apprehended an Indian national from district Zarai of Kandahar province on September 3, 2007. The Indian agent, operating under cover as a Pakistani, was held on charges of assisting and financing Taliban militants in the region. He was shifted to Kabul for detailed interrogation on September 8, 2007. Afghan police investigations established the identity of the suspect as Rohit Vashisht, son of Padam Dev Sharma, belonging to Ranchi district in Bihar province of India. Vashisht had traveled from India to Kabul on passport No. G-3032400 issued on June 1, 2007 and when apprehended, was masquerading as a Pakistani, duly sustained by appropriate dress, complexion and fluency in Urdu. He confessed to, during initial interrogation by Afghan police in Kandahar, of acting as conduit for providing finances and facilitates recruiting elements among Taliban to carryout suicide attacks targeting Pakistan and ISAF forces.

The article also points to recent arrests of Indian operatives who have been caught red-handed
In another such incident recently, an Indian agent operating under cover as member of a medical team in Jalalabad, was caught red handed while working for RAW and cultivating patients for recruitment as suicide bombers. Instead of following up on the case the individual was repatriated quietly to India. Similarly, another Indian agent named Muhammad Tariq was arrested on March 6, 2007 in Jalalabad and remained under custody for five days. Some sensitive documents were recovered from his possession. During interrogation he confessed to working for RAW in Kabul but he was silently and inexplicably released. Vashisht case proved no different. It is reflective of the Indian influence with the levers of power in Afghanistan that despite over-whelming presence of incriminating evidence, intelligence agencies and police authorities released Rohit Vashisht on September 15, 2007 without further ado. To provide an alibi Afghan interrogators declared Rohit Vashisht as mentally deranged and repatriated him back to India on September 16, 2007, through assistance provided by the Indian Embassy in Kabul.

Indians retaliations following the death of their Afghan plan brain-child is likely to involve a tit-for-tat attacks on Pakistani assests especially Sri Lanka and Afghanistan. Already, 6 bomb attacks have went off in Karachi following the embassy bombing. Brig R Mehta is not your every-day potatoe. India will most likely retaliate. The question to be asked is to what degree.

==================================

In the question remains, does ordinary Pakistan realize who are they really supporting when they support extremists (Indian connection) disguising under 'true Islam' or do they support their own country, people and culture.

Priya Das

P.S. It is funny that Pakistani Hindus have to come to the defense of Pakistan culture against Hindu majority India/Bharat Mata/Hindustan, simply because Pakistanis at large (Muslims) are so gullable and not able to see past anyone waving of 'true Islam' Did I mention those 'true Islam' people are not really Muslims ? Smile

i think she has gone mad india is a far more better country then pakistan. look at india developement they are developing at good pace. pakistan is a poor country. look at india bollywood and compare it with you k.uf shit loolywood.

no...

I think we would have progressed far more, if we had friendly relations with India.
We would have a reduced defence budget, and more would have been spent on social development.
Allah Hafiz