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loje wrote:

Rehber101 wrote:

i am not giving you reasons to make them the same but i tolled you if you really search about good friends you will find them any where not in just in your area

we are discussing two differents things, one about online friends and other making friends in different a country.( really i dont know how both of them started, whatever it is intresting )
lets make it one what it was actually " it is easy to make an online friend from different country then making actual friend" or " online friendship is easy to make with a person from different country or society but it is not easy to make him actual friend" that is all what I say and you dont agree... am i right ?

that what i meant
becase you can find friends in your stay city and they will be your close friends if they are agood people
the traditions , cultures it not make big deffrent between you and this person if you both have qualities to be good people first and good friends second

Now I think I should be very specific, so tell me that... Do you think that the criteria for being a good person and good friend is same all over the world.. i a society you say good to a person but in another society you will find that they dont think that crector as a good,,,,, may be they will say foolish to him..... and vice versa.
give you an example, if a girl or boy love someone, but her parents are not willing for that and due to the respect of the parents, he or she agree to leave the love........ in our society we consider him or her a good person, but in some societies not.... example.... if a couple love each other ,in some socities they seperate by saying just that " our future is not good" while in some socities they secrify even their lives and people give them respect for that ...... and many examples, some one say selfish others say successful....... Dear meanings of friends are different in different societies...

and that qualities what our riligen tought us becase there is people who not muslims and they have same qualities that the muslim should have but the deffrence between him and the muslim that he is not a muslim in name

This is a different and sensitive topic, we can discuss after finish this on...

mabe the food will make deffrence if you dont like eat thier food Laughing

but this is not abig problem you can do your food with your own Wink

and you can give them some of your food to let them know about your food Cool

problem is of the friendship, if some one is your friend food can never be a problem between you (i experienced it just today), if some one is my friend he will never leave me because of my different food nor i will do that.

you dont ecept much from friend sthen why you are talking about your own people ??? Rolling Eyes

I dont expect "much" but atleast friendship Laughing

you want them becase you have some common ( cultures , traditions , food ) thats it ???? Rolling Eyes

yes you are right I want them because of culture, traditions........ the reason is this that they and me have the same learnings and idea about friendship and good friend and good person.

you say it ( WE HAVE THE HOPE TO BE USEFUL FOR THE OTHER ) its including any one not just the people in your area and from your country am i wrong in that ?? becase here you can binifet and be useful for the other and we dont have so much expectations from each other.

here now you speak about online friendship ... yes my dear you are right, we can have the same hope for online friends, but how our hope can be as strong as in real.. every online friends knows that how much i can be usefull for my friend while connected online.

no iam not deviating from reality but you need them both you need friends you see as much you need friends you talk to becase sometimes you have friends you see but they are not binifet to you if you want an advice or something as if you have online friends and they become rude sometimes but you will find the good people every where just you should search about them

I can not believe that you asked some person or a friend in your area for advice and he or she refuced to give you advice...

and when i did say that love can not be like between the friends you see ??? the relations can not be the same there is a relation on net and relation on the same area

yes, i say that the friendship on net can not be the same as is real, and it is not necessary that a person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area.

first he is one of the people i saw on tv and that show is about the people who is

i just mean that, first that was a tv program, it is not difficult for them to show a usual thing as very intresenting, secondly if he did that, and he came on tv, so it means it is not dones by the people usually.

yes i know that but i understood that your example that you make friendship with some one and they Convicted him then in this case you can know if he is a criminal or not becase you Cohabitated with him lived with him and know him

dear i mean that even actually if he is a criminal, you will make friendship with him, if he is a good friend..... dear it is not neccessary that a good person can only be a ggod friend.... because you can find that bad people also have very good friends.

i meant that i dont need the culture , traditions , food to make friends surrounding me eather

this is the actual thing that i dont believe, and i say every thing for this..... we need all those things to make friend in surroundings, as i said above.

no idont think so

I dont agree with you.... the behaviour of a person is off course affected by environment, traditions, society etc,

behavior of what ????????? all people if they go abroad what is must matter to them the religion if they go to non muslim country that what importent thing in the first and if some one is not muslim but has the qualites that muslim should has why not we make friend with him ??

if a person have the qualities that you dont want in your friend, or he have not those qualities which you need in your friend, he can not be your friend...

TALKING AND DISCUSSION IS NOT ONLY FRIENDSHIP ,,, ( AND SORRY IF MIND )SOMETHING

yes not only but the 90 % from friendship Wink

and i didnt know the last sentence means?? Rolling Eyes

you think that talking and discussion is 90% of friendship, but i say that the Fear of loosing the friend is 90% of friendship.. and i will say sorry to you after every reply, to make sure you didnt get hurt by my words

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Thanks For Sharing Them With Us.

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Rehber101 wrote:

we are discussing two differents things, one about online friends and other making friends in different a country.( really i dont know how both of them started, whatever it is intresting )
lets make it one what it was actually " it is easy to make an online friend from different country then making actual friend" or " online friendship is easy to make with a person from different country or society but it is not easy to make him actual friend" that is all what I say and you dont agree... am i right ?

no its the same the online friends means the people who are from diffrent countries

and who tolled you that it is easy to make friends online ( good friends ) its not easy

and all people has deffrent opinion about friendship means some people prefare his friends from the same country and some others prefare his friend from all over the world
it depends on the person's mind and the way he thinking

that what i meant
becase you can find friends in your stay city and they will be your close friends if they are agood people
the traditions , cultures it not make big deffrent between you and this person if you both have qualities to be good people first and good friends second

Now I think I should be very specific, so tell me that... Do you think that the criteria for being a good person and good friend is same all over the world.. i a society you say good to a person but in another society you will find that they dont think that crector as a good,,,,, may be they will say foolish to him..... and vice versa.
give you an example, if a girl or boy love someone, but her parents are not willing for that and due to the respect of the parents, he or she agree to leave the love........ in our society we consider him or her a good person, but in some societies not.... example.... if a couple love each other ,in some socities they seperate by saying just that " our future is not good" while in some socities they secrify even their lives and people give them respect for that ...... and many examples, some one say selfish others say successful....... Dear meanings of friends are different in different societies...

but we all agreed that the qualites for good friends is the same in every where

the main isue here that you dont know what is the quallites of the good friends is ??

and that example is for the lovers not aply on friendship

friendship is clear and known with every body i think

This is a different and sensitive topic, we can discuss after finish this on...

no its not deffrent topic its the same the muslim have qualites Discriminate him from the other and there is people who not a muslim and have some of those qualites and that qualites is the main qualites for friendship

problem is of the friendship, if some one is your friend food can never be a problem between you (i experienced it just today), if some one is my friend he will never leave me because of my different food nor i will do that.

that what i try to make you understand it

I dont expect "much" but atleast friendship Laughing

oh i see means you have some Conditions for friendship ??

yes you are right I want them because of culture, traditions........ the reason is this that they and me have the same learnings and idea about friendship and good friend and good person.

All people can Discrimination between the good friendship and bad friendship not just the people who is from my country

the good friendship is like theory not something depends on

here now you speak about online friendship ... yes my dear you are right, we can have the same hope for online friends, but how our hope can be as strong as in real.. every online friends knows that how much i can be usefull for my friend while connected online.

no iam talking about onlinefriends and the friends from other countries as same

and what is that means ??? in red

I can not believe that you asked some person or a friend in your area for advice and he or she refuced to give you advice...

yes there is people like this in the real life are you surprized ???? and its not just that you asked him \ her face to face but you are in setuation that you need that friend and he \ she goes away and didnt see them Until your problem Solved and dont tell me that you dont know about those kind of people Wink

yes, i say that the friendship on net can not be the same as is real, and it is not necessary that a person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area.

yes but it can be too right ??

i just mean that, first that was a tv program, it is not difficult for them to show a usual thing as very intresenting, secondly if he did that, and he came on tv, so it means it is not dones by the people usually.

they show us the poor life he lived but he still happy with his friends from that country not just from the same country

this is the actual thing that i dont believe, and i say every thing for this..... we need all those things to make friend in surroundings, as i said above.

this is your opinion and i respect it but i have another opinion and you know about it Wink

I dont agree with you.... the behaviour of a person is off course affected by environment, traditions, society etc,

if a person have the qualities that you dont want in your friend, or he have not those qualities which you need in your friend, he can not be your friend...

you think that talking and discussion is 90% of friendship, but i say that the Fear of loosing the friend is 90% of friendship.. and i will say sorry to you after every reply, to make sure you didnt get hurt by my words

there is no fear with good and real friends belive me for example i have friends online friends and in the same area that i live they understand me very well and if i didnt call them or come online for while they not upset from me and angry becase they know that i was so much busy and they call me we are Alhamdule Allah Alhamdule Allah not fighting ever And Insha Allah Will Not For The End Of Our Lives and that what we call it love for Allah And Be Friend For Allah Nothing Else Wink

and thanks for this great convarsation that i had with you and if you didnt said any rude words there is no way for hurt any body Wink

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loje wrote:

Rehber101 wrote:

but we all agreed that the qualites for good friends is the same in every where

the main isue here that you dont know what is the quallites of the good friends is ??

friendship is clear and known with every body i think.........

I have not seen enough globelization, that can make qualities of the good friend same all over the world..." so can you pleas tell me that a friend with which qualities you think is considered good in your area"

no its not deffrent topic its the same the muslim have qualites Discriminate him from the other and there is people who not a muslim and have some of those qualites and that qualites is the main qualites for friendship

I have to think alot before speaking about that..

oh i see means you have some Conditions for friendship ??

speaking very clearly yes i have conditions for anyone to be my friend, because i dont want to get hurt again and again, havent you listened that "" Oh, God , save me from friends, i can deal with enemies"..

""but how our hope can be as strong as in real""

and what is that means ??? in red

because i hope to help my friend here and my hope is strong because he is here and I can do for him many, not only words... and i have hope to help friend online but i know that i have only words for him...

yes, i say that the friendship on net can not be the same as is real, and it is not necessary that a person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area.

yes but it can be too right ??

what that mean????????

And Insha Allah Will Not For The End Of Our Lives and that what we call it love for Allah And Be Friend For Allah Nothing Else Wink

if i am not wrong it actually means that " be friends of those whome ALLAH (SWT) wants you be friend, and be animy of those whome ALLAH (SWT) wants you to be enemy..

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Dear Arshkarim
i am afraid i couldn't catch u. Crying or Very sad

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Dear Loje, iqbal , Rehber

HowZ Labor's Day hliday Very Happy

seems the disscusion is ongoing. Wink

what a courteous conversation. trust me Rehber, there is no one get hurt. Wink

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Chinesewind.. thanks for your concern..
I spent my labour day in your city (CQ) to look around, and as you know that its really difficult to remember the name of resorts because those all are in Chinese, But i saw almost all those places that you have shown here by pictures.. I had a chinese (CQ native) friend with me and the place where i feel most better was the stairs on the river side where two riveres meet, and specially at night when the ships are doing their business.... The night view from the tower of ELING park and others are also beautiful.... and the crowd around the central tower of JIEFANGBEI, all amazing and nice......

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Chinesewind wrote:

	Arshkarim wrote:
	Sallam , Karachi is my city , nahee ha is sa koi , App jaha bhi rahey , kidhar bhi rahey , Mera karachi ki baat he kuch or ha .. I luv karachi..

Dear Arshkarim
i am afraid i couldn't catch u. Crying or Very sad

Dear Chinesewind, dont be afraid, as we discussed earlier its human nature.. he is just admiring his own city Karachi, And really to be happy with the people we have to know and understand the human nature and weaknesses.. Have happy time.

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Rehber101 wrote:

I have not seen enough globelization, that can make qualities of the good friend same all over the world..." so can you pleas tell me that a friend with which qualities you think is considered good in your area"

Do You Want Friends Be Selfish Doesnt Listen To You When You Are Angry,sad,happy,confused ?????

Do You Want Friends Mocked the feelings of others and your feelings ??????

Do You Want Friends Treat You like What They Want to be treated??????

Do You Want Friends Challenge You from behind ?????

Do You Want Friends Dont Respect Your Religion ????????

I Think The Answer For All These Qustions Is NO IDONT WANT
and that is the main qualites that you need in a friend as i think if there is other qualites its Secondary factors

and every one has his own conditions that he \ she need in a friend

I have to think alot before speaking about that..

ok as you wish Wink

speaking very clearly yes i have conditions for anyone to be my friend, because i dont want to get hurt again and again, havent you listened that "" Oh, God , save me from friends, i can deal with enemies"..

yes i heard about that before But Do You Listened That " What Is Not Kill Me , Makes Me Stronger "

because i hope to help my friend here and my hope is strong because he is here and I can do for him many, not only words... and i have hope to help friend online but i know that i have only words for him...

yes in that point you are right you cant do any thing to your online friends but just the words but is that words sometimes enaugh to us if we heard some sweet words from our friends ????
its enaugh for me i dont know about others but mabe some people are like me

its healing our sad sometimes Dont You Think ??? Wink

yes, i say that the friendship on net can not be the same as is real, and it is not necessary that a person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area.

yes but it can be too right ??

what that mean????????

means its not necessary that person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area
but mabe sometimes can be your real friend like your friend from the same area

And Insha Allah Will Not For The End Of Our Lives and that what we call it love for Allah And Be Friend For Allah Nothing Else Wink

if i am not wrong it actually means that " be friends of those whome ALLAH (SWT) wants you be friend, and be animy of those whome ALLAH (SWT) wants you to be enemy..

i meant that we should love people not becase their money or they have some thing we can binefit from it but we should love people becase they are good people and riliguos people
and hate the people who is not religuos Wink

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	Chinesewind wrote:
	Dear Loje, iqbal , Rehber HowZ Labor's Day hliday seems the disscusion is ongoing. what a courteous conversation. trust me Rehber, there is no one get hurt.

hi 杨杰

what is that day ??? labor's day ???? Rolling Eyes

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loje wrote:

Rehber101 wrote:

Do You Want Friends Be Selfish Doesnt Listen To You When You Are Angry,sad,happy,confused ?????

Do You Want Friends Mocked the feelings of others and your feelings ??????

Do You Want Friends Treat You like What They Want to be treated??????

Do You Want Friends Challenge You from behind ?????

Do You Want Friends Dont Respect Your Religion ????????

I Think The Answer For All These Qustions Is NO IDONT WANT
and that is the main qualites that you need in a friend as i think if there is other qualites its Secondary factors

and every one has his own conditions that he \ she need in a friend

Are you really Idealistic? Confused

Do you think every one with such qualities will be your friend Shocked

and really in some areas of world people will not say for all as you said NO IDONT WANT

yes in that point you are right you cant do any thing to your online friends but just the words but is that words sometimes enaugh to us if we heard some sweet words from our friends ????
its enaugh for me i dont know about others but mabe some people are like me

its healing our sad sometimes Dont You Think ??? Wink

Dear as you mentioned that words are only for sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes... but you need friend not only sometimes, and i need friend here very close not only for sometimes.

means its not necessary that person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area but mabe sometimes can be your real friend like your friend from the same area

yes, you are right May be, may be, may be, may be, may be Very Happy

So dear it means that the perameters for online friend and real friend are not same. and that is what i wanted to explain

i meant that we should love people not becase their money or they have some thing we can binefit from it but we should love people becase they are good people and riliguos people
and hate the people who is not religuos Wink

so sensitive Surprised

dear if I follow your words i should not have any friend here and i can not have, because no one is religious here and most of people dont like religious thinkings and say that religion is resistant to development,(They say it because they dont know about true religion)...because they are atheist....

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Rehber101 wrote:

Chinesewind wrote:

	Arshkarim wrote:
	Sallam , Karachi is my city , nahee ha is sa koi , App jaha bhi rahey , kidhar bhi rahey , Mera karachi ki baat he kuch or ha .. I luv karachi..

Dear Arshkarim
i am afraid i couldn't catch u. Crying or Very sad

Dear Chinesewind, dont be afraid, as we discussed earlier its human nature.. he is just admiring his own city Karachi, And really to be happy with the people we have to know and understand the human nature and weaknesses.. Have happy time.

Dear Rehber,

What i mean is i could not understand what he said Rolling Eyes

.................................................(the last 2 sentences were not English, did u see that?) Wink

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loje wrote:

	Chinesewind wrote:
	Dear Loje, iqbal , Rehber HowZ Labor's Day hliday seems the disscusion is ongoing. what a courteous conversation. trust me Rehber, there is no one get hurt.

what is that day ??? labor's day ???? Rolling Eyes

A holiday for the working people all over the world. Very Happy

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Chinesewind wrote:

Rehber101 wrote:

Chinesewind wrote:

	Arshkarim wrote:
	Sallam , Karachi is my city , nahee ha is sa koi , App jaha bhi rahey , kidhar bhi rahey , Mera karachi ki baat he kuch or ha .. I luv karachi..

Dear Arshkarim
i am afraid i couldn't catch u. Crying or Very sad

Dear Chinesewind, dont be afraid, as we discussed earlier its human nature.. he is just admiring his own city Karachi, And really to be happy with the people we have to know and understand the human nature and weaknesses.. Have happy time.

Dear Rehber,

What i mean is i could not understand what he said Rolling Eyes

.................................................(the last 2 sentences were not English, did u see that?) Wink

its like this

Karachi is my city, " not any other like this"
" where ever you live and you are"
" My Karachi is different from others"

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Dear Loji, Pleas take it as a refrence for what i explained....

http://www.forumpakistan.com/viewtopic.php?t=10474&sid=c95b285bb8a1ca7b3a06e36068003aed

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[quote="Rehber101"][quote="loje"]

Rehber101 wrote:

Do You Want Friends Be Selfish Doesnt Listen To You When You Are Angry,sad,happy,confused ?????

Do You Want Friends Mocked the feelings of others and your feelings ??????

Do You Want Friends Treat You like What They Want to be treated??????

Do You Want Friends Challenge You from behind ?????

Do You Want Friends Dont Respect Your Religion ????????

I Think The Answer For All These Qustions Is NO IDONT WANT
and that is the main qualites that you need in a friend as i think if there is other qualites its Secondary factors

and every one has his own conditions that he \ she need in a friend

Are you really Idealistic? Confused

Do you think every one with such qualities will be your friend Shocked

and really in some areas of world people will not say for all as you said NO IDONT WANT

yes if i thought All muslims Are My Brothers And My Sisters Why Not The One Who Have These Qualites Be My Friend Even I Didnt See Him \ her ???? Wink

yes in that point you are right you cant do any thing to your online friends but just the words but is that words sometimes enaugh to us if we heard some sweet words from our friends ????
its enaugh for me i dont know about others but mabe some people are like me

its healing our sad sometimes Dont You Think ??? Wink

Dear as you mentioned that words are only for sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes... but you need friend not only sometimes, and i need friend here very close not only for sometimes.

yes sometimes even if you have surounding friends you will have them sometimes you cant forced any one to be with you 24 hours in 7 days right ????

and you want to be with your self sometimes ???? Rolling Eyes

and in other way your sad moments are sometimes not all the time i think ? Wink

means its not necessary that person who can be your online friend can also be your friend when that is in your area but mabe sometimes can be your real friend like your friend from the same area

yes, you are right May be, may be, may be, may be, may be Very Happy

So dear it means that the perameters for online friend and real friend are not same. and that is what i wanted to explain

in every thing in our lives is depends on may be
the risks for online firend is more than the freindship in surrounding us i admit in that but there is a chance to have this friendship real one online and there is risks in friendship surrounding us

i meant that we should love people not becase their money or they have some thing we can binefit from it but we should love people becase they are good people and riliguos people
and hate the people who is not religuos Wink

so sensitive Surprised

dear if I follow your words i should not have any friend here and i can not have, because no one is religious here and most of people dont like religious thinkings and say that religion is resistant to development,(They say it because they dont know about true religion)...because they are atheist....

all people have sins this is not mean that i cant have friends with them becase all people all people have sins but we can make friendship with them and if we see some thing wrong we should show them the right way and i meant with religuos that people who know the simple thing in islam and have rules good rules in their lives and try to become a good muslims

and there is alot of people here in this forum that is careing about islam and how to become agood muslims
and i think you know about this forum now more than before and know who is know's about islam and who is not

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Chinesewind wrote:

loje wrote:

	Chinesewind wrote:
	Dear Loje, iqbal , Rehber HowZ Labor's Day hliday seems the disscusion is ongoing. what a courteous conversation. trust me Rehber, there is no one get hurt.

what is that day ??? labor's day ???? Rolling Eyes

A holiday for the working people all over the world. Very Happy

oh is that in china ???? Wink

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[quote="loje"][quote="Rehber101"]

loje wrote:

Rehber101 wrote:

yes if i thought All muslims Are My Brothers And My Sisters Why Not The One Who Have These Qualites Be My Friend Even I Didnt See Him \ her ???? Wink

OK, I agree all the muslims are your brothers and sisters, and for me too and should be.... So dear sister When I said they are not ? Even I say that the non muslims who respect our religion are also our brothers..... And I appriciate you in the case if you say that any one with such qualities should be your friend... Very Happy

all people have sins this is not mean that i cant have friends with them becase all people all people have sins but we can make friendship with them and if we see some thing wrong we should show them the right way and i meant with religuos that people who know the simple thing in islam and have rules good rules in their lives and try to become a good muslims

and there is alot of people here in this forum that is careing about islam and how to become agood muslims
and i think you know about this forum now more than before and know who is know's about islam and who is not

I agree with that,so tell you at last that
Now I think that I can find some friends here where I am and those can be my good friends, If they think the same which i think about friendship and they respect my religion and believes.. Cool

Secondly I can also find some friends on the Forum, and those will be my good friends but not as good as the friend can be in my surrounding...... Cool

Do you agree dear loji ?????

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[quote="Rehber101"][quote="loje"][quote="Rehber101"][quote="loje"]

Rehber101 wrote:

yes if i thought All muslims Are My Brothers And My Sisters Why Not The One Who Have These Qualites Be My Friend Even I Didnt See Him \ her ???? Wink

OK, I agree all the muslims are your brothers and sisters, and for me too and should be.... So dear sister When I said they are not ? Even I say that the non muslims who respect our religion are also our brothers..... And I appriciate you in the case if you say that any one with such qualities should be your friend... Very Happy

iam talking here about my carector Wink

and i am like this all people who hae these qualites they are my friends Wink

and if that theory good for you then you can follow it