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He founded the group Jaish-e-Mohammed after he was released by India, in exchange of the passengers of the hijacked Indian Airlines Flight 814 in 1999.[1][2]

Jaish is also accused by the Indian government to have closely worked with Lashkar-e-Taiba in carrying out planned attacks on the Indian Parliament on December 13, 2001.[3]

Rashid Rauf, his relative, was suspected and arrested in a plot to blow up trans-Atlantic jetliners.

rohit_bangalore wrote:

ugwaraich wrote:

rohit_bangalore wrote:

My ranking as a neutral person will be

1)Al-Quaida(Taliban/Islamic fundamentalist):There is no doubt they carried out 9/11,and IC814 hijacking got Azhar masood released.And they had been bombing USA consulate and killing americans/innocent persons in kenya/indonesia since 1990's.But Sep 11 made them world no1 terrorist group.Talibanis destroyed the worlds oldest bahmayian Buddhist statues.one/two of them were 100-150 feet big which provs
2)USA's policies:USA is not a terrorist state but its super power.And we have been seeing since 19th century that how super powers do bully and force weaker nation.so policy of usa sometimes disturb global peace..
3)Israel:Though they are india's ally but what they are doing in palestine is not good for world peace.Few days back they have blocked Gaja blockade
4)Palestine terror group:Although palestine was the one who suffered but war/terrorism is not the solution.Many issues were/are solved by peaceful talks/meditations.Initially palestine was backed by most of the countries,but later Palestine groups lost the support from many countries b'coz of their support to means of terror to counter-attack israel.

5)North korea:A rogue socialist state.

this is not what we call neutral ranking, this is what we call the come back of a hypocrite. Maulana Masood Azhar was rightly freed from India because india didnt have evidence to arrest him, its just that because that guy was so effective in speech against India, so india arrested him. for your answer to 911 thing you should watch this video boy, I would like to hear your hypocrite comments on that:

http://joox.net/cat/44/id/1863997

hei Maulana Masood Azhar heads Jaise mohammad..and dont tell me jaise mohammad is not responsible for killng innocents people in india...........

Maulana Masood Azhar
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maulana Masood Azhar ,founder of the organization Jaish-e-Mohammad, is a former clergyman whose family settled in Bahawalpur, Pakistan at the time of its independence. He is active in Terrorist activities in the Kashmir valley.[citation needed] The government of Pakistan interestingly, has been trying to spread rumours that Maulana Masood Azhar is a turncoat, who after spending time in Indian jails, was turned by India's intelligence agency RAW and who's sole intention it is to defame the supposed 'Independence movement' taking place in Indian controlled Kashmir and the government of Pakistan.

He founded the group Jaish-e-Mohammed after he was released by India, in exchange of the passengers of the hijacked Indian Airlines Flight 814 in 1999.[1][2]

Jaish is also accused by the Indian government to have closely worked with Lashkar-e-Taiba in carrying out planned attacks on the Indian Parliament on December 13, 2001.[3]

Rashid Rauf, his relative, was suspected and arrested in a plot to blow up trans-Atlantic jetliners.[3]

stop giving me references from wikipedia because I can go there and edit these information, so anyone in this world can edit the information about the knowledge they have on wikipedia, I didnt read anything on your posts, and dont want to but dont start it again because I will finish it this time.

and you know what you shouldnt come to any topics which are controversial, because you simply put senseless comments on there, and you should also stop sending any controversial news or topics. you should stick to only dance and songs section of this forum because you're thinking is not worth more than that.

got to go!

Saturday, February 21, 2004
Staff Report

GUJRANWALA: The district government on Friday banned the entry of Maulana Masood Azhar, head of the banned organisation Jaish Muhammad, Manzoor Ahmed Chinioti of Jhang and Zakir (Speaker) Gulfam Hashmi of Multan within its limits during Muharram.

The administration has also banned Maulana Khalid, prayer leader of Jamia Masjid in Ghakar, Maulana Haneef Rabbani, prayer leader from Kamokey, Sadaqat Ali, prayer leader of Jamia Masjid in Faiz Kamokay, Maulana Ayub Toofani of Kangnaywala, Maulana Taj Haidri of Rahwali, Maulana Muhammad Zahid of Jamia Masjid in Sheranwala Bagh, Qari Muhammad Asghar from Tetlaywali and Hafiz Saqlain belonging to the Sipah-e-Sahabah, from delivering public speeches.

source:http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_21-2-2004_pg7_52

ok mr u try 2 change any wikipedia info..

hei there are crores of users online....do u know also that u need a login for that..and if u put up something highly fake aticles someone else ill challenge u and u ll lose ur id and the articles keep getting appended every minutes by users all across world...

and terrorists like maulana azhar masood is in wanted list..he is not allowed 2 roam in pak by ur govt...

and above news was from ur govt who claims he is terrrorist...and dont act lke a kid of 3 month..

world knows he was released after talibanis demanded him for IC814 hijack...

and u r teaching me,,,,,,,,,,

i read ur history books and i came 2 know why u all crazy and different.........

hope ur govt stops teaching u wrong and fake stuffs...

READ ABOUT ALL IC 814 HIJACKING FROM PAKISTANI NEWS WRITER...THE BOOK COVERS ALL THING...
http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:8eL4mYX5NmoJ:www.qurtuba.edu.pk/thedialogue/The%2520Dialogue/1_1/11--Book%2520Review%2520Pak-India%2520War.pdf+Maulana+Masood+Azhar+IC+814&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=pk

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Tuesday, 28 December, 1999, 11:54 GMT
Hijackers refuse to release children

A Taleban guard keeps watch on the aircraft at Kandahar airport A Taleban guard keeps watch on the aircraft at Kandahar airport

The hijackers of an Indian plane have refused a request to release children and their mothers as conditions worsen on board the aircraft sitting on the tarmac at Kandahar airport in southern Afghanistan.

Indian Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh said the request was conveyed by Indian negotiators who were sent to Kandahar on Monday.

He also said the negotiating team had been given "some access" to the hostages but did not give any details.

The Indian negotiators are being led by Indian Foreign Ministry official Vivek Katju.

The talks were joined by UN officials and European diplomats who have come to represent their nationals on board the hijacked plane.

The first session of talks, which began on Monday evening, went on late into the night before being interrupted by loss of radio contact.

Taleban man passes water to plane Food and water are being supplied to the hostages

The plane lost power when its engines cut out early on Tuesday morning. The engines had been kept running since Saturday to provide heat for the passengers.

Ground technicians have been working on the airliner to try to get the engines running again.

Conditions on board

As the stand-off enters its fifth day conditions have been steadily deteriorating on board the aircraft.

We have two passengers on that plane with cancer
Indian diplomat

Reports say the stench from the aircraft is overwhelming and concern is rising over the physical and mental conditions of the hostages.

A doctor, part of the Indian team that was sent on Monday, said those on board would be under tremendous psychological pressure.

"Normally after four or five days hostages start losing their patience and can suffer a nervous breakdown," Dr Wishal Sharma said.

An Indian diplomat said two of the passengers on board had cancer and their condition could worsen in the cold.

Temperatures in Kandahar drop below freezing at night and the Taleban guards ringing the aircraft have lit small fires to stay warm.

Despairing relative Despairing relatives have been picketing the prime minister's residence in New Delhi

But Indian officials said the hostages had been allowed to change their clothes and were served food and water.

"As per our information, the toilets are being cleaned," he told relatives of the hostages in Delhi.

On Tuesday morning, the hostages were served a breakfast of eggs, bread and mineral water.

The Taleban have been serving the hostages rice and lentils, since many of the Indian passengers are vegetarians.

Hijack timeline
24 Dec 1055 GMT: Plane leaves Kathmandu
1130 GMT: Hijackers demand to be flown to Lahore, Pakistan
1331 GMT: Plane lands at Amritsar, India
1437 GMT: Plane lands at Lahore without Pakistani permission.
2010 GMT: Plane lands at Al-Minhad military air base near Dubai, UAE
25 Dec 0055 GMT: Some hostages released and plane takes off
0303 GMT: Plane lands at Kandahar, Afghanistan
27 Dec Indian negotiators arrive Kandahar
The hijackers are holding around 160 passengers and crew on the plane in Kandahar.

They had earlier threatened to start killing passengers if the Indian authorities did not take steps to meet their demands.

The hijackers, who seized flight IC-814 four days ago, are demanding the Indian Government release several Kashmiri separatists and a Muslim cleric, Maulana Masood Azhar, jailed in India.

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They have already stabbed one passenger to death.

Several truckloads of militiamen from Afghanistan's ruling Taleban have surrounded the aircraft, which has been on the tarmac for two days.

The Taleban have warned they will storm the plane if the hijackers start killing passengers.

United Nations official Erik de Mul said, that according to the captain of the hijacked aircraft, the passengers were in a ''bad'' mental and physical condition.

Desperate relatives

In Delhi, relatives of the captives clashed with riot police as they accused the government of bungling. Some say they cannot understand why Maulana Masood Azhar cannot be released in return for the lives of their loved ones.

India previously refused a similar demand to free the cleric after six Western tourists were kidnapped while trekking in Kashmir.

Twenty-eight people have been released since the hijackers took control of the plane. One was freed on Sunday in Afghanistan, the others, all Indians, were released in exchange for fuel in Dubai.

The body of 25-year-old businessman Rupin Katyal - the only person known to have been killed by the hijackers - was also taken off the plane in Dubai.

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one thing i can be sure now..

u r all misguided since Zia period

ur country adopted shariya

and u r nt ready2 listen2 any other source of news than pakistan government news which is fake 100% ...ask anyone in world...
and i can show u news from UK>USA>INDIA>CHINA(ur ally)
>IRAN(UR ALLY) and saudi arabia

and everyone in wrld knows all but ur eyes wont believe it coz u r born with so much intolerance ...and once i read the history book which i posted u ...i came 2 know...ya this is the reason pakistan is not prospering..

u have so much hatred and jealous for the other world.........

and u all use so much religion in all issues of life...that takes u closer 2 taliban...

and u hv no reason for 100 statues of buddhism (bahamas/gandhara) who are destroyed in afganistan and 100+ are destroyed in NWFP pakistan

but u wont mind raising finger on secularity of india if 1 masjid was destroyed by group of hindu fanatics..

I don`t wants to go into details.
Just short message to you that Israel & USA are
worlds most danger terror than Al-Qaida or anybody else you refare.

When USA or Israel is in truble then new & fresh videos of Osama or any other
belong to muslim religion comes to the world media. Wink

But when its no worry in USA & Israel. They are quite.

USA can read a number plait of a car from the satellite even in Pakistan or any
place arount the world. In other words they are Number one in the technology.
Then my question is that how 9/11 incident happened

Dud, it is just propaganda gainst muslims. Because Islam spreding all over the world
slowly but surely. That is a threat for Israel, therefore they need they require USA
support to do against that.

Israel is among Egypt, Jordan, Lebonan and Syria. No one of these muslim countries dare to
attack Israel. Why..... Question

Because of USA support.

Lots of jewish lobby in USA congress. Actuallu its those people who leade the USA politic.

Now India protest against Gawadar port in Bolochistan Mad

It is Pakistans own personal matter. But India now cry to both USA & Israel that please STOP
this Pakistani new port.

In other words I want to say, USA & Israel are biggest terror in the world for other
countries.

1980s. USA forces comes to Pakistan for traning. Lots of good relation with Pakistan that time.
But now even Pakistan support USA for War against terror (WAR AGAINST ISLAM) but still blaming
Pakistan for lots of other things. What India done for war against terror Question

But USA is very much favour into India now. I know lots lots lots of people the country I visit now
says that this is just to build India more strong against China & Pakistan. Otherwisw USA have no intrest at all
into India. Where was USA in 1970s & 1980s Question

Why USA is care so much about India Question

Even Pakistan is supportr to USA against War against terror. But USA is not sincere with Pakistan
at all.

My Dear Pakistan suffred a lot since 1947 and pr today. But sooner or later Pakistan will come to
more stability and will be more powerfull.

Akhir Raat Ke Baad Swerra Bhi Toh Hotta Hai.

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I do believe on Ghosts.

Those of people who calls Pelestainian people terrorists. must think 100 times before
they say that.

Why.......... Question

Pelestinaian have stones in their hands, and they are facing F-16, Apachi Helicopters,
missiles and lots of other danger weapon fron Israeli sides.

Even Israeli got modren wepons like F-16, Apachi Helicopters, Tanks, and lots lots
of other weapons. But they still not able to control over Pelestinians. Even Perstinaon only have
stones into their hands.

I also recommand that see again n again the pics ugwaraich posted. I seen this clip
on TV that time on even CNN, BBC, FOX NEWS & Euro News too.

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I do believe on Ghosts.

yes we are misguided from Zia's period. Zia was one of the best leader we had. will you please leave us alone now? and better concentrate on your job and your country, dont poke your nose in our matters and be self obsessive as you are.

Horrific Pictures from the PROMISE LAND

Subject: FW: Beauty of Israel
Israeli soldiers passing out candy to the kids

Making sure they get to school.

Helping children and women cross the street..

Providing Childcare

Allowing them a place to rest (permanently)

Access to Healthcare.

Construction Projects.

Respecting American and British pacifist resisters (such as American Rachel Corrie)

and Others

And if you are not satisfied, now, with the truth the following pictures are war crimes as defined by the UN, The Hague and the Geneva Convention.

Using images of your enemy dead or alive (violation)
may god give them guidence . ameen

Human shields (violation)

Live Burial Torture (violation)

And as a last resort, Execution (violation)

These IDF soldiers have faces... I can clearly see them...Cant you? Why are they not being prosecuted? Because it is systematic process that is driven by the government designed to force the people of Palestine into exile so Israel can claim all the land and resources.

This where my American tax dollars are going, do you know where your tax dollars are at? TAKE THE TIME TO FIND THE TRUTH. So many lives depend on it. I, like so many Americans, am Caucasian, non-Arab, and religious. I can no lon ger sit back with good conscience and do nothing while my government is supporting the types of terrorist actions that we have condemned Muslim Fundamentalist for. Call your Congressman and Senator, send an email to the White House and demand that our government negotiate FAIRLY with both sides and bring a fair and just solution to Palestine and Israel .

Amy

now if you think hamas is a terrorist Party in Palestine, you are wrong boy, they won elections in Gaza. you people talk about democracy where is your democracy for Hamas? if Hamas wins elections it means that most of the people are pro hamas in palestine which means they are all against Israel, and why are they against Israel you know the reason after watching the pictures above. tell me if you have a cute adoreable daughter and a son, and if Pakistani tanks bombard your home tommorow and claim that india is our land and we need to dominate it and your daughter or son gets killed the way it is shown in the picture,,, tell me what would you do?

would you not bomb Pakistani tanks? would you not wear a bomb around your body and do suicide attack? there would be no motive in your life left apart from killing Pakistanis... try to put yourself in their shoes and feel the pain they are going through, I have seen jerks coming up on website with stupid news references and western or indian media news which always bark on Palestinians and call them terrorists. for instance if we believe that they are terrorists then WHAT MADE THEM A TERRORIST GROUP? know the cause.

you cannot simply kill the ideology with tanks or hi tech weapons you have, ideology needs to be dealt with ideology.
I hope I receive a mature response from you this time, although I havent in the past.

ugwaraich wrote:

now if you think hamas is a terrorist Party in Palestine, you are wrong boy, they won elections in Gaza. you people talk about democracy where is your democracy for Hamas? if Hamas wins elections it means that most of the people are pro hamas in palestine which means they are all against Israel, and why are they against Israel you know the reason after watching the pictures above. tell me if you have a cute adoreable daughter and a son, and if Pakistani tanks bombard your home tommorow and claim that india is our land and we need to dominate it and your daughter or son gets killed the way it is shown in the picture,,, tell me what would you do?

would you not bomb Pakistani tanks? would you not wear a bomb around your body and do suicide attack? there would be no motive in your life left apart from killing Pakistanis... try to put yourself in their shoes and feel the pain they are going through, I have seen jerks coming up on website with stupid news references and western or indian media news which always bark on Palestinians and call them terrorists. for instance if we believe that they are terrorists then WHAT MADE THEM A TERRORIST GROUP? know the cause.

you cannot simply kill the ideology with tanks or hi tech weapons you have, ideology needs to be dealt with ideology.
I hope I receive a mature response from you this time, although I havent in the past.

i saw those pics////i knw these pics do prove ur point....but u shouldnt post such pics in public forums..they only ll create more intolerant and sadist person in world..i also read abt UN warning to israel..

and for kind info india doesnt support israel in such acts of crime..india only says that we want the palestine and isreal issues solved peacefully....after all they are much powerful than india and other west....Israel has invested a lot of money on R&D and technology ...and their defense power is superior to india,china and other western powers...

only USA and russia has the might to challenge them..................

i have all sympathy with those peaceful people and i also read the news which u r quoting and showing......But world has become more of a strategic and political stand divided into groups for their own self interest......

India supported PLO and palestine organisation till1990s and we also didnt recognize isreal..In 1990's OIC didnt want india to be member of the organization...Then they started harping on kashmir issue..and that separated us from OIC and muslims country...........Even i agree that there are human rights violation in kashmir by indian army but is that not happening in pakistan army (in FATA) or balochistan.................Even people in FATA are getting worse treatment..While i ll tell u indian army will never cross its limits until someone start supporting those militants...and those militants are not localized to kashmir...they are bombing places delhi/mumbai/chennai/lucknow..............

And u read todays news about kashmir...the thing is much better....and if pak wouldnt have sent those 10000 muhajideen to promote havoc in india/kashmir,then kashmir would have been a big state via economy in india..but that stunt made indian govt send its army to tackle them.......and now its very peaceful..people of kashmir realize that by supporting militants (whom they term as pakistan centric),they will nt gain anything(infact lose their homeland to pakistan based militants)...so now they are neutral about pakistan and india...........

The year we have no militants targeting other people ,one can take assurance that indians are not rogue...and for ur kind info u can read kashmir news on google...............type kashmir news and then click on news in top.......and it will show u all news of kashmir from all sources...now things are btter in kashmir....and if we see no militancy in ksmr ,india wont keep army for just sake of it..........

Recently i heard OIC is repenting coz of its stand against india..........world knws we supported on palestine issues and do support now2.BUt world is stage of politics....i think its time to solve palestine problem and isreal should stop human rights violation.....they already have got so much of land and they should let those palestinians live ....

i know no country(USA>RUSSIA>FRANCE>UK) in world wants to solve any big issues..kashmir issue has bee termed as a way to bleed india...and i m seeing that in form of terrorism....and isreal is a very powerful country and they dnt listen2 anyone..........

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CHENNAI: The Gwadar port being built by Pakistan with Chinese assistance in its Baluchistan coast has "serious strategic implications for India", Naval Chief, Admiral Sureesh Mehta has said.

"Being only 180 nautical miles from the exit of the Straits of Hormuz, Gwadar, being bulit in Baluchistan coast, would enable Pakistan take control over the world energy jugular and interdiction of Indian tankers," he said delivering T S Narayanaswamy Memorial lecture in Chennai on Monday night.

The challenge for India was to balance relations with China in such a manner that competition for strategic significance of space in the Indian Ocean leads to cooperation rather than conflict, he said

"The pressure for countries to cooperate in the maritime military domain to ensure smooth flow of energy and commerce on the high seas will grow even further," he said speaking on "Oceanic Influence on India's Development in the next Decade."

Talking about "Chinese designs on the Indian Ocean," Mehta said China had a strategy called `String of Pearls,' as per which it seeks to set up bases and outposts across the globe, strategically located along its energy lines, to monitor and safeguard energy flows. "Each pearl in the string is a link in a chain of the Chinese maritime presence," he said.

"Among other locations, the string moves Northwards up to Gwadar deep sea port on Pakistan's Makran coast. A highway is under construction joining Gwadar with Karachi and there are plans to connect the port with the Karakoram Highway, thus providing China a gateway to Arabian Sea," he said adding that this could pose a problem for India.

First this news came in media after indian navy chief talked about Rising chinese influence in pakistan..well india s not afraid of pakistan,but chinese strategy to form pearl size of bases around india ie,arabian sea and indian ocean worries us...and its nothing wrong to say that...

Then the return news from pakistan:

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QUETTA, Jan 24: Federal Minister for Information and Broadcasting Nisar A. Memon has said that India should close down its so-called information centres in Afghanistan because their involvement in acts of terrorism in Pakistan cannot be ruled out.

Addressing a press conference during a brief visit to Quetta on Thursday, he said that terrorism had come into Pakistan through the Afghan channel and India had opened around a dozen information centres close to the Pakistani border without any justification. If India wanted to improve relations with Pakistan it should close down these so-called information centres, the minister said.

He objected to Indian naval chief’s recent statement about the Gwadar port and termed it interference in the internal affairs of Pakistan. He said it indicated their involvement in terrorist activities taking place in different parts of Pakistan.

Mr Memon said: “We have serious concerns over the statement of the Indian naval chief and Pakistan will lodge a strong protest regarding it through diplomatic channels.”

Referring to the Indian information centres in Afghanistan, he said: “These so-called information centres are being used for spreading disinformation and their involvement in terrorism cannot be ruled out.”

He said Pakistan would not tolerate interference of India or any other country in its internal affairs. “Such statements could affect Pak-India relations,” he warned, and said no Pakistani was involved in attacks on Chinese engineers. He said that agents of those elements who were against the development of Pakistan were involved in the killing of Chinese engineers.

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He objected to Indian naval chief’s recent statement about the Gwadar port and termed it interference in the internal affairs of Pakistan. He said it indicated their involvement in terrorist activities taking place in different parts of Pakistan.

Mr Memon said: “We have serious concerns over the statement of the Indian naval chief and Pakistan will lodge a strong protest regarding it through diplomatic channels.”

i guess he has only this reason to say cz indian navy chief talked abt Gwadar and its chinese strings of pearls...but he never mentioned about his terrorist involvement in pakistan

this is also told by indian navy chief and it sounds peaceful

The challenge for India was to balance relations with China in such a manner that competition for strategic significance of space in the Indian Ocean leads to cooperation rather than conflict, he said

"The pressure for countries to cooperate in the maritime military domain to ensure smooth flow of energy and commerce on the high seas will grow even further," he said speaking on "Oceanic Influence on India's Development in the next Decade."

@nline wrote:

I don`t wants to go into details.
Just short message to you that Israel & USA are
worlds most danger terror than Al-Qaida or anybody else you refare.

When USA or Israel is in truble then new & fresh videos of Osama or any other
belong to muslim religion comes to the world media. Wink

But when its no worry in USA & Israel. They are quite.

USA can read a number plait of a car from the satellite even in Pakistan or any
place arount the world. In other words they are Number one in the technology.
Then my question is that how 9/11 incident happened

Dud, it is just propaganda gainst muslims. Because Islam spreding all over the world
slowly but surely. That is a threat for Israel, therefore they need they require USA
support to do against that.

Israel is among Egypt, Jordan, Lebonan and Syria. No one of these muslim countries dare to
attack Israel. Why..... Question

Because of USA support.

Lots of jewish lobby in USA congress. Actuallu its those people who leade the USA politic.

Now India protest against Gawadar port in Bolochistan Mad

It is Pakistans own personal matter. But India now cry to both USA & Israel that please STOP
this Pakistani new port.

In other words I want to say, USA & Israel are biggest terror in the world for other
countries.

1980s. USA forces comes to Pakistan for traning. Lots of good relation with Pakistan that time.
But now even Pakistan support USA for War against terror (WAR AGAINST ISLAM) but still blaming
Pakistan for lots of other things. What India done for war against terror Question

But USA is very much favour into India now. I know lots lots lots of people the country I visit now
says that this is just to build India more strong against China & Pakistan. Otherwisw USA have no intrest at all
into India. Where was USA in 1970s & 1980s Question

Why USA is care so much about India Question

Even Pakistan is supportr to USA against War against terror. But USA is not sincere with Pakistan
at all.

My Dear Pakistan suffred a lot since 1947 and pr today. But sooner or later Pakistan will come to
more stability and will be more powerfull.

Akhir Raat Ke Baad Swerra Bhi Toh Hotta Hai.

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	Just short message to you that Israel & USA are worlds most danger terror than Al-Qaida or anybody else you refare.

Dont put blame on full america ....Clinton was a peaceful person..and us is feeling the heat on its economy...
but if someone shows u 10 proves of USA involvement into 9/11,there are millions of proves that says they didnt..how can someone kill its own citizen..and democracy and politics is not so bad as u think in pakistan..

and about 100-200 indians died in WTC attack

Quote:

USA can read a number plait of a car from the satellite even in Pakistan or any
place arount the world. In other words they are Number one in the technology.
Then my question is that how 9/11 incident happened

Dud, it is just propaganda gainst muslims. Because Islam spreding all over the world
slowly but surely. That is a threat for Israel, therefore they need they require USA
support to do against that.

Israel is among Egypt, Jordan, Lebonan and Syria. No one of these muslim countries dare to
attack Israel. Why..... Question

Because of USA support.

Lots of jewish lobby in USA congress. Actuallu its those people who leade the USA politic.

ya thats right,,...they can monitor by satellites..9/11 was not a mistake of agency...those people wre like suicide killers..and if anyone wants to die and kill others in plane ...den how can some one would have saved the plane??they got the plane hijacked on knife....and its possible..

hehe...why they will be after islam?they are not after islam...but they are after fundamentalism in islam...and islamic extremism..why dont they target hindus??coz hindus hav track record of non-violence and no intervention in other affairs.and they are worried about people in islam who bother a lot about other issues...i m not bothered about whats happening to hindus in malaysia and srilanka..cz thy are not in indias internal affairs....den people of pakistan shouldnt think about muslims of other country.Be tolerant and be moderate and be peaceful...why will someone go after u??and other reason behind all this is : we always find terrorist in uk,australia,scotland of a particular religion..so they are afraid of such religion who has produced so many terrorists..i thank 2 our good education,indian muslims are peaceful nd tolerant and they are just like us...

u r right,jewish lobby is strongest n world..and isreal is stronger than india,uk,china,france in defense...

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I don`t wants to go into details.
Just short message to you that Israel & USA are
worlds most danger terror than Al-Qaida or anybody else you refare.

When USA or Israel is in truble then new & fresh videos of Osama or any other
belong to muslim religion comes to the world media. Wink

But when its no worry in USA & Israel. They are quite.

USA can read a number plait of a car from the satellite even in Pakistan or any
place arount the world. In other words they are Number one in the technology.
Then my question is that how 9/11 incident happened

Dud, it is just propaganda gainst muslims. Because Islam spreding all over the world
slowly but surely. That is a threat for Israel, therefore they need they require USA
support to do against that.

Israel is among Egypt, Jordan, Lebonan and Syria. No one of these muslim countries dare to
attack Israel. Why..... Question

Because of USA support.

Lots of jewish lobby in USA congress. Actuallu its those people who leade the USA politic.

Now India protest against Gawadar port in Bolochistan Mad

It is Pakistans own personal matter. But India now cry to both USA & Israel that please STOP
this Pakistani new port.

In other words I want to say, USA & Israel are biggest terror in the world for other
countries.

1980s. USA forces comes to Pakistan for traning. Lots of good relation with Pakistan that time.
But now even Pakistan support USA for War against terror (WAR AGAINST ISLAM) but still blaming
Pakistan for lots of other things. What India done for war against terror Question

But USA is very much favour into India now. I know lots lots lots of people the country I visit now
says that this is just to build India more strong against China & Pakistan. Otherwisw USA have no intrest at all
into India. Where was USA in 1970s & 1980s Question

Why USA is care so much about India Question

Even Pakistan is supportr to USA against War against terror. But USA is not sincere with Pakistan
at all.

My Dear Pakistan suffred a lot since 1947 and pr today. But sooner or later Pakistan will come to
more stability and will be more powerfull.

Akhir Raat Ke Baad Swerra Bhi Toh Hotta Hai.

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	Just short message to you that Israel & USA are worlds most danger terror than Al-Qaida or anybody else you refare.

Dont put blame on full america ....Clinton was a peaceful person..and us is feeling the heat on its economy...
but if someone shows u 10 proves of USA involvement into 9/11,there are millions of proves that says they didnt..how can someone kill its own citizen..and democracy and politics is not so bad as u think in pakistan..

and about 100-200 indians died in WTC attack

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USA can read a number plait of a car from the satellite even in Pakistan or any
place arount the world. In other words they are Number one in the technology.
Then my question is that how 9/11 incident happened

Dud, it is just propaganda gainst muslims. Because Islam spreding all over the world
slowly but surely. That is a threat for Israel, therefore they need they require USA
support to do against that.

Israel is among Egypt, Jordan, Lebonan and Syria. No one of these muslim countries dare to
attack Israel. Why..... Question

Because of USA support.

Lots of jewish lobby in USA congress. Actuallu its those people who leade the USA politic.

ya thats right,,...they can monitor by satellites..9/11 was not a mistake of agency...those people wre like suicide killers..and if anyone wants to die and kill others in plane ...den how can some one would have saved the plane??they got the plane hijacked on knife....and its possible..

hehe...why they will be after islam?they are not after islam...but they are after fundamentalism in islam...and islamic extremism..why dont they target hindus??coz hindus hav track record of non-violence and no intervention in other affairs.and they are worried about people in islam who bother a lot about other issues...i m not bothered about whats happening to hindus in malaysia and srilanka..cz thy are not in indias internal affairs....den people of pakistan shouldnt think about muslims of other country.Be tolerant and be moderate and be peaceful...why will someone go after u??and other reason behind all this is : we always find terrorist in uk,australia,scotland of a particular religion..so they are afraid of such religion who has produced so many terrorists..i thank 2 our good education,indian muslims are peaceful nd tolerant and they are just like us...

u r right,jewish lobby is strongest n world..and isreal is stronger than india,uk,china,france in defense...

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	Israel is among Egypt, Jordan, Lebonan and Syria. No one of these muslim countries dare to attack Israel. Why..... Because of USA support.

u hve not read about isreal...once they wre settles by UN in isreal..they fought wars with all their neighbours like libya,egypt.jordon and syria but isreal defeated them all and now forget these smaller country...india and china alone cant fight isreal..they are years ahead of us in tehcnology

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	Now India protest against Gawadar port in Bolochistan It is Pakistans own personal matter. But India now cry to both USA & Israel that please STOP this Pakistani new port.

i hve explained before ...india afraid of chinese plans to surround us by string of pearls but we have only information centre in afganistan...and Mr menon started speculating more and his speech came after india navey chief talked abt the fear ..but he also told that we can avoid all by moving ahead with china or by befriending them..

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	1980s. USA forces comes to Pakistan for traning. Lots of good relation with Pakistan that time. But now even Pakistan support USA for War against terror (WAR AGAINST ISLAM) but still blaming Pakistan for lots of other things. What India done for war against terror

ya in 1980 pak and usa were good frends but us is not a truested ally...it dumps every country after they use them..well india is 1.1 billion population..and its a big market for usa and india is a very big economy only after china,japan in asia...and usa companies invest a lot in india....but pakistan is usa strategic ally...but u have no democratic govt..so ur general hav2 travel to west to gain sympathy nd support frm them coz he has lost home support....
in war against terror,india gave them all information about al-quaida and terrorist camps which wre located in pak and which has talibani funding......and indians dont cheat anyone...so we gave them whatever they asked...

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	But USA is very much favour into India now. I know lots lots lots of people the country I visit now says that this is just to build India more strong against China & Pakistan. Otherwisw USA have no intrest at all into India. Where was USA in 1970s & 1980s

usa favours india..but does india is usa ally??we have our own independent policy..some parties favour China and some are pro america...and india need usa for their investments anD FDI and they need our market....
india is building on its own...no country wants 2 build other nation for their own interest and indians will never form an alliance with usa..we knw usa uses country for short time goals....even china was built frm usa money whie usa and russia were fighting and usa made an alliance with china and poured lot of money in china.....

pakistan is not cmparable to india??ya china and india are strong competitors....

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	Why USA is care so much about India

india is democratic,secular and we follow our ethics,principles ..we have 1 stance ...we dont ditch our frends...we are biggest democracy n world...and we are the most reliable country...and india is still russian side2...and basically indians are no side....russia,china and us all are appeasing india..and we want them all

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	Even Pakistan is supportr to USA against War against terror. But USA is not sincere with Pakistan at all.

Ur country has no democratic leaders..army runs govt and they have no support..so they need usa but usa needs u for terrorism only..
Zia supported usa..then he implemented a shariya in pak..he started with those hatred books...i ll tell u books play a major rule in a persons nature....AS a whole educated indians will be very tolerant but pakistanis wll keep fighting over trivial issues...first pakistan needs peope who love pakistan more than their religion....

i love my country1000000000times more than religion....the day u people understand importance of secular,democratic notions ,ur country will be on track..

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	My Dear Pakistan suffred a lot since 1947 and pr today. But sooner or later Pakistan will come to more stability and will be more powerfull

.

Army ruled for 30 years ...and still is ruling......and 1 big reason for the prob is :

while india was part of NAM (non aligned movement),pak wnt into usa cz of money .......
in the end india also went wit russia but we had our own stance and we love russians for helping us ..and no india will ever think of cheating/hating russian gratitude coz they helped us financially,and by defense...
i read about pak and usa supporting about punjab based terrorism:khalistan and other kashmir issue in 1970/////but russians always vetoed in favor of india...

what pakistan needs:
1)independent policy
2)secular/democratic society:as jinnah has mentioned
3)Fair law/judiciary and media
4)Moderate islam (lke turkey/malaysia)

and last not the least stop fighting and supporting any proxy war with india.................coz of india ur books contain so much hatred for hindus..and i read them and was shocked...and that created fundamentalist...and even educated pakistanis are not able to judge ...

come in india..and we have no hatred against pakistan in our books....
u all need revised education policy..........our books show secularity and all people start believing that india is above all religion nd religion is just a faith and way of living nothng more...but we dont stop people frm reading their religious text books..

u can come to delhi and see how hindus and muslims live there...and u can visit jama masjid and have talk with people ...they call themselves indian before they are hindus /muslims...

ha ha hahaha

Well i read the entite incident which is happening these days in gaja..and i hope u read news from all sources...

and read it..

Jan 26, 2008 13:51
Abbas says he won't negotiate with Hamas, despite Gaza chaos

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas on Saturday stuck to his tough conditions for resuming contacts with Hamas, despite attempts by Egypt to bring the rivals together to solve the growing chaos on the Gaza-Egypt border.

In a speech Saturday, Abbas denounced the Hamas takeover of Gaza as a "crime" and said the Islamic militants must reverse these steps if they want to resume talks with him.

On Friday, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak had proposed in a newspaper interview that representatives of Hamas and Abbas' Fatah movement come to Cairo for talks. Abbas made no mention of that offer, and instead reiterated his plan to have his forces deploy on the Gaza crossings, instead of Hamas.

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RAFAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Egyptian riot police and armored vehicles restricted Gaza motorists to a small border area of Egypt on Saturday, in the second attempt in two days to restore control over the chaotic frontier breached by Hamas militants.

At least 38 members of the Egyptian security forces have been hospitalized, some in critical condition, because of cross-border confrontations, Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Aboul Gheit said. The minister complained of "provocations" at the border, a thinly veiled reprimand of Hamas, and said that while Egypt is ready to ease the suffering of Gazans, this should not endanger Egyptian lives.

In the West Bank, meanwhile, moderate Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas stuck to his tough conditions for resuming contacts with Gaza's Hamas rulers, dimming prospects for Egypt's proposal to have the two Palestinian rivals come to Cairo for talks on resolving the border crisis.

Earlier, Hamas had accepted Egypt's proposal, and Hamas hardliner Sami Abu Zuhri accused Abbas of trying to bypass Hamas: "His statements are a rejection of the Egyptian initiative."

Abbas insists he will only talk to Hamas if it retreats from its violent June takeover of Gaza, something Hamas is unlikely to do. Abbas renewed his offer of deploying his forces at the Gaza crossings, as a way of ending the closure of Gaza by Israel and Egypt.

On the Gaza-Egypt border, traffic of cars and pedestrians remained heavy Saturday, four days after Hamas militants blew down the border wall, sending hundreds of thousands of Gazans rushing into Egypt.

In an attempt to restore some control, Egyptian armored vehicles blocked the main street of the Egyptian border town of Rafah, causing a traffic jam of honking cars filled with Gazans shopping for fuel, food and consumer products.

Earlier Saturday, dozens of riot police formed human chains to block the two passages cut through the breached border, before once again giving up and allowing the cars to cross into the Egyptian side of the divided town. Authorities were making renewed efforts, however, to keep them out of the rest of the country.

Israel, meanwhile, expressed growing concern about the possible influx of Palestinian militants into areas of Egypt that border Israel. The Israeli military announced Saturday that its troops were on heightened alert along the border with Egypt, and that an Israeli road and tourism sites in the area are temporarily closed.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Abbas were to meet in Jerusalem on Sunday.

Abbas aide Nabil Abu Rdeneh said the Palestinian leader would ask Olmert to open Israel's crossings with Gaza, closed last week after a spike in rocket attacks. Abbas will tell Olmert "about the readiness of the Palestinian Authority to take responsibility of the Gaza borders," Abu Rdeneh said.

The border breach was engineered by Hamas to pressure Egypt to negotiate new border arrangements. Both Israel and Egypt have kept Gaza largely sealed in the past two years, especially since the violent Hamas takeover of the territory in June.

Egypt faces a dilemma over how to handle the border crisis. If it acts forcefully against the Gazans, it could anger its own people, who sympathize with the Palestinians' plight. But if it does nothing, it risks infiltration by Islamic militants.

Early Saturday, hundreds of Gaza cars crossed into Egypt.

Palestinians and Egyptians bypassed the checkpoints around Rafah, however, via dirt roads. In the coastal town of El Arish, about 20 miles west Gaza, the roadblocks were tighter and police were witnessed telling shopkeepers to close their stores.

Hundreds of cars with Gaza license plates were seen in El Arish on Saturday, many lining up at gas stations. An elderly Gaza man, Saleh Abu Ghosheh, stood in one of the lines, hoping that a gasoline tanker would eventually arrive to refill the station.

Abu Ghosheh said he was worried the tanker would not show, and that he would have wasted precious fuel getting to El Arish. Still, he said, the trip was not in vain. "It's worth it, at least I bought a goat, dairy products and some items for my children," he said.

The traffic flowed in both directions. Many Egyptian cars were seen in Gaza, including a truck carrying $65,000 worth of cheese, candy bars and cleaning supplies for a Gaza City supermarket.