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Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:36 pm
ugwaraich Mr. Pakistan
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1479
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With all due respect Usman yaar but that is a ridiculous argument. Everywhere in the world women work and take meternity leaves. The sole pupose of a woman cannot possibly be just to pop out babies and nothing else, there is a lot more to a women then just that.
lol. this is exactly what I said in my previous post that I would be expecting a comment like "women cannot just be baby machines", mate you know what the problem is; it is that my keys dont fit into your brain-lock. You completely misunderstood my point. I know about maternity leave, my point was that God did not make women fit for these kinds of physically and mentally hard jobs.
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Your implication that women are somehow worst drivers then men quite frankly is pretty rasict. I grew up with 4 sisters all of whom mashallah are gr8 drivers and 2 of them have private pilot licences and i can assure u they fly planes a lot faster then 20 mph (no plane flies at 20 mph, even the drones go faster then that).
(FYI I have flown drones and their average speed is 40-60 mph) I was only joking about F-16s on 20 mph well this is not just my observation that women are worst drivers it is what all men say but again I said with a few EXCEPTIONS. Secondly I dont find much sense in connecting private piloting with GDPs, GDPs are mainly aimed at warfare and combating and I still believe that women are not suitable for fighting pilots, this just doesnt mould into the mental and physical capabilities of a woman.
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Once again, God did not made women just to be mothers. There's a lot more to this of God's wonderful creation. The only reason a woman can even bare the excruciating pain of child labour is because emotionally she is much more stronger then a man.
This is exactly what I am saying, God did not make women for jobs that are not made for her, there is a lot more to this God's wonderful creation and that could be some better jobs, such as teaching children, being doctors, taking care of home, kids and hubby to bring up great nations and generations that make good engineers, scientists, doctors and economists. And as Loje rightfully said that women's role in warfare is to take care of patients as doctors and nurses and provide food services.
lol about labour, mate its not because women is much more stronger than men emotionally, physical pain has nothign to do with emotions and labour is physical pain, emotions are spirits and are vitual, women are low tempered and not emotionally strong in fact they are emotionally fragile they get emotional too quick, but yes they are patient. The only reason I understand why a woman can take all that pain during the labour is because GOD made her physically like that and she has the capability to do it.
Tue Jul 08, 2008 3:38 pm
sarfarazlovesu Senior Member Pakistani
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 556
keep it up ugwaraich and loje
jazakallah khair
bhai ye bewaqoof log hain jo ALLAH k quran par apni aqal ko tarjeeh dete hain
if you want knowledge then open quran and authentic ahadith ..
No No Usman, Infact I understand ure point very well. Apparently god has told "YOU" Personaly what he made women for. But thats ok, the cavemen sounded very fimiliar to you as well. Qasoor aap ka bhi nahin hai.
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(FYI I have flown drones and their average speed is 40-60 mph) I was only joking about F-16s on 20 mph well this is not just my observation that women are worst drivers it is what all men say but again I said with a few EXCEPTIONS. Secondly I dont find much sense in connecting private piloting with GDPs, GDPs are mainly aimed at warfare and combating and I still believe that women are not suitable for fighting pilots, this just doesnt mould into the mental and physical capabilities of a woman.
See, there you go talking out of ure a@@ again. You could not have possibly flown a drone. Maybe ou dont know what a drone is. A drone is an un-manned spy plane used by several millitary forces in the world. I think you are talking about toy-planes and no toy plane goes as fast as 60 MPH. try to make some sense be4 putting ure foot in ure mouth.
I know what you and ure racist kind think of women drivers as you had made that very clear, i just feel sorry for any women in ure life, now or in the future.
Do not preach to me about the difference between a GDP and a PPL. My father was an Aeronautical engineer for Pakistan Air Force for 35 years and I have 2 cousins flying as sqaudren leaders on F-16 at sargodha base. I think I know the difference between a fighter pilot and a person with the PPL (Psssst.....FYI. That stands for private pilot licence).
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This is exactly what I am saying, God did not make women for jobs that are not made for her, there is a lot more to this God's wonderful creation and that could be some better jobs, such as teaching children, being doctors, taking care of home, kids and hubby to bring up great nations and generations that make good engineers, scientists, doctors and economists. And as Loje rightfully said that women's role in warfare is to take care of patients as doctors and nurses and provide food services.
Like I said, when did god personaly came to you and specified women's role as "florence nightingale" in war like situations?? I can understans why pethetic, conceeded and racist men like ureself would have a problem with women fighting side by side with men. Afterall, "Your kind want to keep a woman in her place" and thats understandable too. qasoor aap ka bhi nahin hai, qasoor tou jahalat ka hua naa bhai.
Anyways, I do not want to argue with you about this anymore because I can see its going nowhere. For me its like banging my head agaist a dumba@@ wall. AAP ki sooch wohi ghissi phitti aur ghattia hi rahay gi., so lets just acknowledge the diff of opinion and move on.
later.
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:32 pm
que10 Full PK Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 499 Location: Chi-town
sarfarazlovesu wrote:
keep it up ugwaraich and loje
jazakallah khair
bhai ye bewaqoof log hain jo ALLAH k quran par apni aqal ko tarjeeh dete hain
if you want knowledge then open quran and authentic ahadith ..
these are the way to guidance
Aur tum jaisay ghattia jahil aur daqia noosi loogon kay daanay bhi sabb nay ginnay huay hain.
Naam kay saath "CA Finalist, MIIA (usa), B. Com" laganay say yeh naa samjho kay loug tumhain parha likhaa samjhay gain. Tumhaari jahalat mien eik doosray thread mien parhh chukka hoon jo keh delete kia jaa chukka hai.
get a life. idiot.
_________________ "You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.
Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:35 pm
que10 Full PK Member
Joined: 11 Nov 2007 Posts: 499 Location: Chi-town
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just one simple qustion
is that raise a woman ????????????????????????????????????????????
belive me my friend the woman know's how to defend for her country when the enemies comes without needing all these things
Allah know's what is the best and the worse for all people why u all talk like u know better than Allah
in the days of prophet Mohamad the women goes to the war and their mission completly deffrent from men they was heals the patients and cook for them
and when the defecult thing comes (((( defend for thier prophet )))) they was Efficient for that without needing to learn and do all these
i dont need to call me that i love my country becase i work there but when time come's i am in the hospital for child labour
the Equality between women and men is in ur mind not in the Sensory ways ((( i meant the work )))
in the moral not in the Physically things
if u really want Equality for women share the all problems u have with her
if u really want equality for women dont rape her in the streets
if u really want equality for women dont spank her every time u come to the home without reason
if u really want equality for women dont Demeaned from her and Delude that she doesnt know any thing
and the importent thing ::::
if u really want equality for women[/b] RESPECT HER in every way
THANKS
You know what, I'm not going to argue with all the narrow minded ppl in here. I just want to say thank god that "pakistan armed forces" are ran by ppl with open minds and they are not cavemen.
This thread is about Pakistan" air force, and we all know how women are treated in saudi arabia and how they were bieng treated during the taliban regime in afghanistan in late 90's.
The dream of changing pakistan into wut taliban led afghanistan was will never come true. Pakistan is not supposed to be a theocracy, as was stated by its founder.
_________________ "You are free- you are free to go to your temples mosques or any other place of worship in this state of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BUSINESS OF THE STATE"... Jinnah, Aug 11th 1947.
Tue Jul 08, 2008 5:17 pm
loje Sweetest Heart
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 2832 Location: Saudia Arabia
que10 wrote:
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just one simple qustion
is that raise a woman ????????????????????????????????????????????
belive me my friend the woman know's how to defend for her country when the enemies comes without needing all these things
Allah know's what is the best and the worse for all people why u all talk like u know better than Allah
in the days of prophet Mohamad the women goes to the war and their mission completly deffrent from men they was heals the patients and cook for them
and when the defecult thing comes (((( defend for thier prophet )))) they was Efficient for that without needing to learn and do all these
i dont need to call me that i love my country becase i work there but when time come's i am in the hospital for child labour
the Equality between women and men is in ur mind not in the Sensory ways ((( i meant the work )))
in the moral not in the Physically things
if u really want Equality for women share the all problems u have with her
if u really want equality for women dont rape her in the streets
if u really want equality for women dont beat her every time u come to the home without reason
if u really want equality for women dont Demeaned from her and Delude that she doesnt know any thing
and the importent thing ::::
if u really want equality for women[/b] RESPECT HER in every way
THANKS
You know what, I'm not going to argue with all the narrow minded ppl in here. I just want to say thank god that "pakistan armed forces" are ran by ppl with open minds and they are not cavemen.
This thread is about Pakistan" air force, and we all know how women are treated in saudi arabia and how they were bieng treated during the taliban regime in afghanistan in late 90's.
The dream of changing pakistan into wut taliban led afghanistan was will never come true. Pakistan is not supposed to be a theocracy, as was stated by its founder.
first :: why u soo angry now??? u tolled me u r cool in the arguing where is that cool now
second : who is having narow minded ?????? when we talk the truth we become the one who has narrow minded how comes
is any thing we said wrong ??? i think ,,,,,,,no no i am SURE that nothing we said is wrong
u people talking about emancipation the woman without knowing the real means of it
this term was created by men who want thier personal interest
they want the woman just for the outer appearance by claiming CLAIMING that they want her to be instead of men in these works but in the other side they treat woman in very abusive way and alot of men treat women like a Garbage
if i talk about the men who knows how to treat women i just can count them becase they r rare Currency
iam talking here as iam a women
and we follow our prophet in every thing.
does our prophet tell's us to do that ??? NO he does not
but if that thing (( follow our porphet ))) make us narrow minded we will accept it with pleasure
who dont want to be free and have rites like others
but we talking with rational thinking not like u
we are talking about rapes and beating and Disparaging the women and these the importent things on ((( Women's emancipation ))) NOT THIS ^^^^
you should really search in ur mind about that word (( Women's emancipation ))) how it should be
is it should be in working in men jobs and reavels her body to men and talk with them without shy
or it should be in working in Decent place for her and be ACT LIKE A WOMAN
third : about saudia arabia plz dont talk about something u dont know
and if some one did something wrong that doesnt mean that all people in the same area like him i wanted to inform u with that to be informed cos u seems doesnt know this
,,,,,,,,((( This one of the images of narrow-minded )))
forth and final : i didnt expect that ur thinking and ur Behavior will be like this at some point
iam sure now that they Are not the people who have narrow minded i knew now who has narrow minded for real
thanks
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:00 pm
ugwaraich Mr. Pakistan
Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1479
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See, there you go talking out of ure a@@ again. You could not have possibly flown a drone. Maybe ou dont know what a drone is. A drone is an un-manned spy plane used by several millitary forces in the world. I think you are talking about toy-planes and no toy plane goes as fast as 60 MPH. try to make some sense be4 putting ure foot in ure mouth.
This is what I am saying that women should remain in their homes and probably spend more time on the kids like yourself so that they become more civilised and dont use any abusive language against others like you are now.
I don’t know what makes you so angry, but anyways for your information, there is a difference between a drone and a UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle), drone is a general term used for engine/battery propelled planes which can be either autonomous or can be controlled by a remote link. A simple toy plane with 4 channel servos can be called as a drone as well, but UAV is a broader and much modern system with GPS (Global Positioning System) normally on board, with satellite links for remote bombing or spying missions and other sensors on board along with flight and mission processors, which basically takes care of the stability of the plane and then en route the tracks for the UAV to complete the mission. UAVs are special systems while drone is a general term used for it. Anyways the high winged plane has a speed not more than 30mph at most because they are more stable due to lower centre of gravity but low winged drones sometimes reach 60mph. Also I have designed and implemented a UAV in collaboration with National Defence Complex and UAV complex in Malir Garrisons at Karachi and had a few flights with them, so you need not discuss this again and lets not go into the details of it
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I know what you and ure racist kind think of women drivers as you had made that very clear, i just feel sorry for any women in ure life, now or in the future.
Very interesting comment, you have certainly lost all your credit by start making the personal offenses now, the only thing I should perhaps say in return is that you shouldn’t be sorry for the women around me, in fact we should be sorry for the women around you as its you who is going to take them to the battlefield and use them as war shields or ask for their help, our women are much more respectable than what you have at your end, we don’t take women to battlefields we face our enemies ourselves and don’t require help from women. If women around you would have stayed at home and had spent some useful time on you then we wouldnt have seen you abusing today.
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Do not preach to me about the difference between a GDP and a PPL. My father was an Aeronautical engineer for Pakistan Air Force for 35 years and I have 2 cousins flying as sqaudren leaders on F-16 at sargodha base. I think I know the difference between a fighter pilot and a person with the PPL (Psssst.....FYI. That stands for private pilot licence).
You might know the difference better than me just in terms but you don’t know the difference of the mental pressure that a GDP has to go through as compared to the people who hold PPL. Try to know the difference of job and not just the title.
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Like I said, when did god personaly came to you and specified women's role as "florence nightingale" in war like situations?? I can understans why pethetic, conceeded and racist men like ureself would have a problem with women fighting side by side with men. Afterall, "Your kind want to keep a woman in her place" and thats understandable too. qasoor aap ka bhi nahin hai, qasoor tou jahalat ka hua naa bhai.
did I say anywhere that God came and told me personally? Do you find any hadith or Quranic verse in which women are literally asked to fight in the war? I would certainly have problem with women fighting side by side in the battlefield and the sole reason for that is because women deserve more respect than that, you sound like men in your community don’t have enough confidence, power and intelligence to fight the enemy alone and you need women’s help, will you take women around you to the battlefield to fight? Tell us if you can I would be interested to know. And if you cant take them to the battlefield then stop asking and appreciating other women from someone else’s family to come out in open and apply for armed forces job which require combat missions.
Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:04 pm
wasee Pak Newbie
Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 2 Location: chakwal
hy. iam from paf
Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:34 am
SHUMULUSUYING Full PK Member
Joined: 29 Jun 2008 Posts: 222 Location: China
que10 wrote:
iftikhar_7 wrote:
NO its not a good
They are looking good in uniform .... but during fighting their competition will be with Men.
They will loose their lives ..... then what will be the feelings of us?
We cannot bear their death .....
Women are for nice and light works ....... not for hard woks
Fighting is for Men ..... only
Hi. So nice to know ure still living in the 16th century. But its ok. Aap ki ghalti bhi nahin hai, qasur tou jahalat ka hua na bhaii.
Aap ki roshan khayali daikh ker dil garden garden ho gaya. .... NOT.
what what what are you saying ?? can not understand
PS: girls are beautiful
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Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:06 pm
sarfarazlovesu Senior Member Pakistani
Joined: 28 Feb 2008 Posts: 556
que10 wrote:
sarfarazlovesu wrote:
keep it up ugwaraich and loje
jazakallah khair
bhai ye bewaqoof log hain jo ALLAH k quran par apni aqal ko tarjeeh dete hain
if you want knowledge then open quran and authentic ahadith ..
these are the way to guidance
Aur tum jaisay ghattia jahil aur daqia noosi loogon kay daanay bhi sabb nay ginnay huay hain.
Naam kay saath "CA Finalist, MIIA (usa), B. Com" laganay say yeh naa samjho kay loug tumhain parha likhaa samjhay gain. Tumhaari jahalat mien eik doosray thread mien parhh chukka hoon jo keh delete kia jaa chukka hai.
get a life. idiot.
Hehe this is not education
this is not illm
its hunar
like people are coblar, carpenter etc, i m accountant ..
What illm is
ALLAH says in Surah muhammad
fallamu innahu la illaha illalah
pas iss baat ka illm hasil karo k beshak ALLAH k illawa koi illaha nahi
so illm to wohi hai jo ALLAH ne diya hai
baqi yeh duniyawi cheezain to humain help karti hai humain hamara kaam karnay main
woh hai
surah zariayat chap 51 verse 56 main
ALLAH ne jinno aur insano ko iss liye paida kiya hai k woh uss ki ibadat karain ....
how comes 
