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naseerfarooqi
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| Dr. Tahirul Qadri |
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I want to say just only one thing that Allah has granted us a very good scholar in the form of Dr. Tahirul Qadri who give lives to the Islamic values. Please listen him carefully and regularly and try to change your lives according his sayings.
Allah Hafiz
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AqsaAfridi
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Hmmm.. I have no idea about him.. But..Maybe he is a good scholar..
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hithere12345
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good man....
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| Thu May 01, 2008 8:32 pm |
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jamii
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Mr Tahir ul Qadri has tarnished his image when he made public his dreams in court about a decade back and casted false accusation on a public figure about firing at his house. The allegations were not substantiated.
He seems to be changing his caps / pagris more often as he changes his stances. May Allah help him.
Sayings of Prophet SAW are quite enough if somebody wants to change hisself.
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| Fri May 02, 2008 12:44 pm |
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sarfarazlovesu
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| Fri May 02, 2008 6:39 pm |
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sarfarazlovesu
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| Fri May 02, 2008 6:40 pm |
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Pak Champ
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Mashallah very good
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charmed ones
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Dr. Tahirul Qadri. does he come on peace tv
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| Sun May 04, 2008 5:49 pm |
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raj09
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thanks will do
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| Sun May 04, 2008 5:53 pm |
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naseerfarooqi
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A man who a dream, he can tell us what did he saw. If someone claims that he saw Hazoor Sallalah-o-Alaih-e-Wasallam in his dream. Then please accept it. You don't know about Hazoor Sallalah-o-Alaih-e-Wasall because you never saw him. What does he say, you can not know unless He say to you. So don't regret what Dr. Tahir Qadri said.
Thanks
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| Tue May 06, 2008 12:29 am |
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sarfarazlovesu
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| Tue May 06, 2008 5:34 pm |
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ugwaraich
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Islam in subcontinent has been deformed by a number of so called scholars, sufis (few not all) mainly because of misunderstanding of Islamic values and for personal or political interests and also by mixing hindu/christian/budhist norms into the Islamic religion by some of the rulers such as Akbar and many others, this person is one of the kind. But anyway as I say may ALLAH guide us in the righteous direction.
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| Tue May 06, 2008 5:39 pm |
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ugwaraich
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sarfarazlovesu
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tufail_74
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i think ppl did not watch his programmes last ramadhan on QTV where he clearly pointed fingers to gr8 imam bukhari (RA) and stated that the imam has either wrongly placed many places on various matters. or the imam did not knew where to place. according to him the imam was of the same view wht he is saying. ( The Biddatee way ).
since the day, i watched programme dear i am totally of the view the he is Dr. Tahir Fasadi not Dr. Tahir Qadri.
as far his so-called great speeches are concerned, dear u hear good speeches from our own politicians everyday but can u say that thos politicians are very good persons. same way, dont decide just from the speeches. check his contents. He is simply saying in the softest words, SHIRK in his speeches.
That is why, Peace TV who is the best and non-controversial channel has kept itself away frm even his shadow. May Allah keep giving Peace TV the courage to keep doing so.ameeen summaaa ameen.
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jamii
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great mind discuss ideas
average minds discuss events
& the lowest discuss people.
Lets not discuss Mr. Tahir ul Qadri, his matter should be left to Allah alone.
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tufail_74
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@ jamii
mr philosopher, this is not simple person and is leading thousand of ppl in the name of islam. it is responsibility of everyone to say any good thing he has to others.
otherwise, u will again say dont discuss salman rushdi or tasleema nasreen or any other who disgraces islam coz they r persons.
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jamii
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Every person has the right to express his point of veiw. If you people think that Mr. Qadri is doing something wrong why not go and attend his address and express your reservation then and there. Why not get his e-mail address and express your opinion about him.
By backbiting about his person we are increasing his good deeds and adding to our bad deeds.
I personally can't comment about his teachings, i never listened to him because of his disclosing his very personal dreams about Prophet (SAW). As far as his comments on Hazrat Bukhari, Bukhari again is a person who has done a tremendous job and served muslim nation (May Allah Bless him for that). His work is considered to be the most authentic after Quran (the word of Allah), so in I have a pretext in Qayamah when Allah ask me about something i did in this world, i will say that I read Sahi Bukhari and followed Sunnah of beloved Prophet (SAW).
At the same time if Mr. Qadri does not agree with Mr. Bukhari it is his opinion however this in any case does not render his faith faulty, although he might have earned some bad deeds due to wrong allegations.
Remember Hadith where suhabah commented that so and so person is very pious and Prophet forbade them to say so as only Allah knows. Beards, trousers above ankle, prayer marks on toes and brow can decieve.
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i think ppl did not watch his programmes last ramadhan on QTV where he clearly pointed fingers to gr8 imam bukhari (RA) and stated that the imam has either wrongly placed many places on various matters. or the imam did not knew where to place. according to him the imam was of the same view wht he is saying. ( The Biddatee way ).
since the day, i watched programme dear i am totally of the view the he is Dr. Tahir Fasadi not Dr. Tahir Qadri.
as far his so-called great speeches are concerned, dear u hear good speeches from our own politicians everyday but can u say that thos politicians are very good persons. same way, dont decide just from the speeches. check his contents. He is simply saying in the softest words, SHIRK in his speeches.
That is why, Peace TV who is the best and non-controversial channel has kept itself away frm even his shadow. May Allah keep giving Peace TV the courage to keep doing so.ameeen summaaa ameen. |
Dude r u wahabi?
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Dr. HAM
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Alex, I could not find the definition of Wahabi. I discussed with many people opposing wahabis and came to conclusion that THE PERSON WHO DOES NOT COMMIT SHIRK is called wahabi.
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Alex9090
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Alex, I could not find the definition of Wahabi. I discussed with many people opposing wahabis and came to conclusion that THE PERSON WHO DOES NOT COMMIT SHIRK is called wahabi. |
So then you are. Thanks
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tufail_74
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our problem is that instead of replying logically we keep on following the mushrikeen-e-makkah and and, anyone who asks for the basis of deeds, says him wahabi or some other.
dear prove urself to be good muslim by just following the islam not just following the traditional molvees who have really harmed islam a lot.
ur reply just seems to show that u r not interested positively but came to play the blame game.
as far mr.qadri's saying is concerned and just keeping quiet or sending an email as mentioned by jamii, i think he forgot the well-agreed wordings " stop evil by,hand or by words or feel adverse frm the heart. and this is the weakest of eemaaan."
if u dont say wrong to wrong deeds, dear u r clearly goin against the islamic teachings. if someone is doing wrong just for himself , u have to approach politely adn tell him wht is wrong. but if someone is misleading a number of ppl, u have make ur effort to nullify the action.
i hope alex will reply with logic not the traditional molvee style.
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All i can say Science N Sufyism are not for idiots.
I do not know Doctor Tahir ul qadri...but from videos i do not see anything wrong with him.
I understand your opinion of him. You would stop him by means within ur power right? clearly u r not doing enough coz he s still going.
I have to ask ..what islamic school did u go to? Do u think that u know more than a known scholar? Did u spend years in islamic school studying bout what s right and whats wrong in islam ?More importantly did you graduate after all that... If yea then i am ready to listen to you if not then piss off. we dont need self taught morons here. Thats pretty logical dont u think.
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ugwaraich
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All i can say Science N Sufyism are not for idiots.
I do not know Doctor Tahir ul qadri...but from videos i do not see anything wrong with him.
I understand your opinion of him. You would stop him by means within ur power right? clearly u r not doing enough coz he s still going.
I have to ask ..what islamic school did u go to? Do u think that u know more than a known scholar? Did u spend years in islamic school studying bout what s right and whats wrong in islam ?More importantly did you graduate after all that... If yea then i am ready to listen to you if not then piss off. we dont need self taught morons here. Thats pretty logical dont u think. |
mate you missed the point. Let me first say something here before I make any comment, my elder brother is a scholar/mufti and he is qualified from one of the most advanced (he studied science as well as Islamic Sharia) institutes in Pakistan. I have discussed almost all of the matters that are being discussed here, additionally I keep in touch with him and keep asking him about whats right and whats wrong.
Now as far as sufism is concerned, sufism is not wrong until it touches shirk and bidaat; any kind of sufism that touches upon these two things is strongly prohibited in Islam. The reason is Shirk is clearly prohibited in Islam and in clear verses from Quran, if someone does shirk he/she is no more muslim because shirk is equal to denying the fact that there is only one God. About bidaat, it is somethign that is added into the religion which has never been proved from the history of the religion and people still do it. Things like music in sufism is bidaat.
Science have nothing to do with religion, religion is an absolute thing, if you believe in Kalima Tayyiba, you believe in your religion otherwise you dont practice it. Although it is true that religious teachings have been proved by science but that doesnt make science bigger than religion. Religion will always be greater than anything, science or sufism.
About Dr. Tahir ul Qadri, he might have vast knowledge or he might be a sufi; we dont know but as soon as the wordings he utter involve shirk, or bidaat he is absolutely doing against Islam, and he is actually preaching bidaat and shikr if he does so. Now the dancing thing in these videos is undeniably Bidaat, there is no where in Islam anyone can prove that Rasulullah SAW or Sahaba danced like this or clapped so it is clearly bidaat.
I hope that clears things abit.
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