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CoolMind
Full PK Member


Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 222
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| Do You Know About ZAID HAMID (Brasstacks) Must Read |
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| Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:00 am |
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proactive37
Pak Newbie
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 2
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People like zaid hamid influence only those who dont read objectively this guy constantly blames jews for everything like Hitler but does not realize that he is only expressing his inferiority. In his discussions the women who interview just go through the motions because Zaid Hamid can only understand himself. He blames the jews for economic conspiracies but forgot that Nations who are successful dont look for conspiracies but they adopt strategies to change their societies. China is growing at an enormous rate and overtaking global markets, Has China ever complained about jewish plots and designs?
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:15 am |
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s0ul_mate1@yahoo.com
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 10 Aug 2008 Posts: 544 Location: khatmando |
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salamz
proactive37, bhi,,,,
i think jews hase nothing with China....
they dont like growing muslims only..
as u know,they r good with India also...
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:07 am |
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Alex9090
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 998
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Morons like zaid are part of the reason why things are so messed up in pakistan. Yea blame everyone but urself. Its everyone else s fault but ours. Atleast in america they elect fked up people but they also kick em out too!
Has anyone heard of any suicide bombers other than so called wanna be muslims?
Its about time people wake and smell the fricking coffee! Stop blaming other people and take a look at urself.
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:15 am |
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ahmet2910
Senior Member Pakistani

Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 909
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YEH TO SAB KUCH WOH HEY JO DOSSREY HAMAREY KHILAF KAR RAHEY HEIN
AUR HAM KIYA KAR RAHEY HEIN
WOH IMPORTANT HEIN
HAMAREY MUSLUMANON MEIN SEY HI LOG
IN CONSPIRACY KARENY WALON KA SAATH DETEY HEIN
KIYON
KABHI YEH BHI SOCHIYEY
AKHIR KIYA WAJAH HEY KEH
HISTORY MEIN AIK ZAMANA THA JAB
MUSLIMS HER FIELD MEIN DUNYA MEIN BOHOT AGEY THEY
US WAQT BHI CHRISITIANS AUR JEWS UNKEY KHILAF CONSPIRACIES KARTEY THEY
PHIR KIYA HOYA YANI HAM MUSLUMANON MEIN KIYA KAMZORI
AGAYIY KEH HAM LOG KAMZOR HOTEY CHALEY GAYEY
AUR WOH LOG JO HAMAREY KHILAF CONSPIRACY KARTEY HEIN
WOH MAZBOOT HOTEY JA RAHEY HEIN
ZARA SOCHIYEY
PLEASE BE PREPARED TO CRITICISE OURSELVES FIRST
BEFORE BUTTING BLAME ON OTHERS
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:10 pm |
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Alex9090
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 998
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YEH TO SAB KUCH WOH HEY JO DOSSREY HAMAREY KHILAF KAR RAHEY HEIN
AUR HAM KIYA KAR RAHEY HEIN
WOH IMPORTANT HEIN
HAMAREY MUSLUMANON MEIN SEY HI LOG
IN CONSPIRACY KARENY WALON KA SAATH DETEY HEIN
KIYON
KABHI YEH BHI SOCHIYEY
AKHIR KIYA WAJAH HEY KEH
HISTORY MEIN AIK ZAMANA THA JAB
MUSLIMS HER FIELD MEIN DUNYA MEIN BOHOT AGEY THEY
US WAQT BHI CHRISITIANS AUR JEWS UNKEY KHILAF CONSPIRACIES KARTEY THEY
PHIR KIYA HOYA YANI HAM MUSLUMANON MEIN KIYA KAMZORI
AGAYIY KEH HAM LOG KAMZOR HOTEY CHALEY GAYEY
AUR WOH LOG JO HAMAREY KHILAF CONSPIRACY KARTEY HEIN
WOH MAZBOOT HOTEY JA RAHEY HEIN
ZARA SOCHIYEY
PLEASE BE PREPARED TO CRITICISE OURSELVES FIRST
BEFORE BUTTING BLAME ON OTHERS |
Ok i almost understood all of what u wrote.
Well said.
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:20 pm |
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silverhawk2
Pak Newbie
Joined: 09 Oct 2008 Posts: 3 Location: World |
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Nice info. We need to look into all these type of persons who suddenly become the so called guardian of Pakistan. Whether Mr.Zaid Hamid is correct or not, Do not believe anyone by just looking at media.Coz this media is not responsible enough to judge their own programmes whether they are right or wrong.
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 7:29 pm |
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ugwaraich
Senior Proud Pakistani


Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1475
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I dont think it is fair to reply emotionally and not wisely here.
I came across zaid hamid recently and saw most of his videos about hindu zionism and CIA's missions etc. I was much impressed by his views, knowledge and his speaking skills.
About the column written above, I dont know the person who wrote this column so I cant testify or say that zaid hamid is a moron or something, we dont know how reliable is the person who wrote this article what was on his mind, who is nofil?
About Zaid hamid's views on the Kharjis explained in the beginning of this article I would agree with zaid hamid that people who do suicide bombings, who kill their own people, who kill children and women are surely Kharjis. There is a solid reason for that which is that Imam Kaaba has already released a FATWA on suicide bombings that it is haram to do so and there is no allowance for suicide bombing in Islam, so people who dont follow Imam e Kaaba's FATWA are kharjis in true sense they are not muslims. So zaid hamid is absolutely right on that.
About girl compares with western dress in his program brasstacks I dont have any problem, as we have some grave and much serious problems amongst our youth which should be resolved than wearing western dresses e.g. crime, unemployment, illiteracy, drinking, illegal relationships.(I am not saying that for the girl compares its right to wear western dress but we have some other priorities so you should not blame zaid hamid for that the channel should be blamed and its not a big deal anyway).
The third point of the writer is about Khatm e nabuwwat; if that is true about zaid hamid then it is really condemnable and zaid hamid should come out in open to accept these allegations or atleast clear those allegations if he was not invovled in it, because there is a possibility that he did touba to Allah and now he has become from a rotten pie to a good apple pie; no one knows if he did touba and if his touba was accepted infront of ALLAH and then he started saying the rightful and true things and facts about Jewish, hindu zionism and about american designs in this region.
If he really was the follower of yousuf and if he has done touba or if he is not at all the follower of yousuf, then I think he is the best speaker on current political and geo strategic affairs who is on media, I would second Dr. Shahid masood to him.
So please do a research before you start calling others moron, it is a responsible comment to make as it might change the views of his viewers in case he is right.
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 9:47 pm |
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ahmet2910
Senior Member Pakistani

Joined: 21 Jun 2008 Posts: 909
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I DONT KNOW HIM
ALL THAT I KNOW ABOUT HIM IS WHAT HAS SO FAR BEEN WRITTEN IN THIS FORUM
MY QUESTION IS THAT HOW COME THE ENEMIES OF ISLAM
CAN FIND SUCH PEOPLE
FROM THE CONTRIBUTIONS TO THESE FORUMS HERE
I HAVE REALISED THAT
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1. AL QUAIDA ARE MUSLIMS BUT THEY ARE NOT MUSLIMS
BECAUSE THEY ARE THE AGENTYS OF CHRISTIANS AND JEWS
2. TALIBANS ARE MUSLIM BUT THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM
BECAUSE THEIR ACTIONS ARE UNISLAMIC
3. OUR PRESIDENTS, PRIME MINISTERS ETC ARE MUSLIM
BUT THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM...........BECAUSE THEY ARE THE AGENTS
OF NON MUSLIMS
4. OUR POLITICIANS ARE MUSLIMS BUT THEY ARE NOT MUSLIM
BECAUSE THEY ARE CORRUPT AND SOLD OUT
5. A BIG NUMBER OF MOULVIS (FOR EXAMPLE THOSE IN THE RUAET E HILAL COMMITTEE
HAVE BEEN DECLARED BY MY FRIEND INAYAT KHAN QAZI AS SOLD OUT MOULVIS
AND MAULANA FAZLUR RAHMAN ETC AS SOLD OUT MAULVIS)
SO THEY TOO ARE NOT MUSLIMS
6. BRIBE IS VERY COMMON EVERYWHERE
AND SINCE BOTH WHO GIVE AND THOSE WHO TAKE BRIBE ARE
MUSLIMS BUT ARE NOT MUSLIM
7. A MUSLIM IS SUPPOSED TO HELP POOR (PARTICULARLY HIS NEIGHBOUR)
BUT THE NON MUSLIMS COME AND HELP OUR MUSLIM POOR
BECAUSE WE MUSLIMS DONT CARE ABOUT OUR POOR NEIGHBOURS
SO ALL THOSE WHO DONT CARE ABOUT THEIR POOR NEIGHBOURS
ARE MUSLIM BUT NOT MUSLIM
YOU CAN CONTINUE LISTING DOWN EXAMPLES AND EXAMPLES LIKE THIS
SO WHO ARE WE
IF WE START THINKING THIS WAY
WE WILL FIND THE ANSWER
WHICH IS VERY VERY SIMPLE
WE HAVE LIMITED OUR ISLAM TO NAMAZ ROZA ZAKAT HAJ ONLY
AND NOTHING MORE THAN THAT
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| Thu Oct 09, 2008 10:13 pm |
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Alex9090
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 998
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I dont think it is fair to reply emotionally and not wisely here.
I came across zaid hamid recently and saw most of his videos about hindu zionism and CIA's missions etc. I was much impressed by his views, knowledge and his speaking skills.
About the column written above, I dont know the person who wrote this column so I cant testify or say that zaid hamid is a moron or something, we dont know how reliable is the person who wrote this article what was on his mind, who is nofil?
About Zaid hamid's views on the Kharjis explained in the beginning of this article I would agree with zaid hamid that people who do suicide bombings, who kill their own people, who kill children and women are surely Kharjis. There is a solid reason for that which is that Imam Kaaba has already released a FATWA on suicide bombings that it is haram to do so and there is no allowance for suicide bombing in Islam, so people who dont follow Imam e Kaaba's FATWA are kharjis in true sense they are not muslims. So zaid hamid is absolutely right on that.
About girl compares with western dress in his program brasstacks I dont have any problem, as we have some grave and much serious problems amongst our youth which should be resolved than wearing western dresses e.g. crime, unemployment, illiteracy, drinking, illegal relationships.(I am not saying that for the girl compares its right to wear western dress but we have some other priorities so you should not blame zaid hamid for that the channel should be blamed and its not a big deal anyway).
The third point of the writer is about Khatm e nabuwwat; if that is true about zaid hamid then it is really condemnable and zaid hamid should come out in open to accept these allegations or atleast clear those allegations if he was not invovled in it, because there is a possibility that he did touba to Allah and now he has become from a rotten pie to a good apple pie; no one knows if he did touba and if his touba was accepted infront of ALLAH and then he started saying the rightful and true things and facts about Jewish, hindu zionism and about american designs in this region.
If he really was the follower of yousuf and if he has done touba or if he is not at all the follower of yousuf, then I think he is the best speaker on current political and geo strategic affairs who is on media, I would second Dr. Shahid masood to him.
So please do a research before you start calling others moron, it is a responsible comment to make as it might change the views of his viewers in case he is right. |
HIya Usman ..hows it going matey.
Well i called this guy moron because he sure sounds like one. I am sick of these dumbasses poping up left right and center whining all the time..O we are being plotted against. People should stop crying coz thats how the world works. If u r weak urself everyone s going to step on you and treat u like crap. This whining is not going to change that. My point is instead of offering these moronic theories and complaining ...these people should be telling ordinary people to wake up and stop being dumbasses. Change urself ..make ur country educated ..get better economically and everyone will kiss ur a.. like they r kissing indian a... Simple as that.
I mean why should usa and west should care for Pakistan? what possible reason do they have? So I wish people would stop whinging and blaming. Simple fact..they are more powerful than Pakistan in every sense. They proly have more people with better values than in Pakistan. Straying away from your beliefs and Your God gets you to this position. So unless people going to change that they r going to stay on the bottom of this pile.
Cheers!
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| Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:02 pm |
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inayat khan qazi
Senior Proud Pakistani


Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 1600 Location: 55743 idar-oberstein Germany |
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A very good topic.Both side have arguments.i don,t know Zaid Hamid so I can,t comment.I will just wait for him or all of you to resolve & conclude this topic.We want to educate ourselves & to gain knowledge.
"RAB E ZIDNI HILMA"[/b]
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| Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:29 pm |
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