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kevin955
Senior Proud Pakistani

Joined: 22 Mar 2009 Posts: 1273 Location: India |
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| China gives 50 JF-17 thunderjets to Pakistan |
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As a gesture of strong friendship, China has provided 50 JF-17 thunderjets to Pakistan.
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China has agreed to immediately provide 50 JF-17 fighter jets to Pakistan, a major outcome of a visit by Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani to Beijing this week, Pakistani officials said Thursday.
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China and Pakistan have jointly produced the JF-17 aircraft, but the new planes would be equipped with more sophisticated avionics, the officials said. The latest jet fighters would be paid for by China, they said.
The announcement came as Pakistan’s already tense relations with the United States soured further after the killing of Osama bin Laden deep inside Pakistan on May 2.
Last week, Pakistan’s spy chief denounced the United States in a rare briefing before Parliament in which he condemned the American raid for breaching Pakistan’s sovereignty. Parliament, in turn, called for the government to revisit relations with the United States.
Mr. Gilani’s visit to Beijing served as a pointed reminder of Pakistani suggestions that the government might seek to recalibrate relations with the United States, using China to offset what many here view as an overdependence on Washington.
The United States has provided Pakistan with some $20 billion in aid, mostly military, for its cooperation in fighting terrorism since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Much of that aid has come in the form of reimbursements for Pakistani counterterrorism operations.
Both the aid and the effectiveness of Pakistan’s cooperation have been called into question by the discovery that Bin Laden had lived for years in a large compound adjacent to a top military academy in the city of Abbottabad, a two-hour drive from the capital, Islamabad.
While the Obama administration would still like Pakistan’s cooperation to wind down the war in Afghanistan and to root out terrorist groups, some American lawmakers are now calling for aid to Pakistan to be cut or suspended.
For their part, Pakistani officials were incensed that the Obama administration gave them no notice of the raid until helicopters bearing a Navy Seal team had already left the country.
Mr. Gilani’s four-day visit to China may help Pakistan as it tries to regain leverage with the United States. During his visit, Mr. Gilani met with Premier Wen Jiabao of China, who bolstered Pakistan by saying the United States should respect Pakistan’s sovereignty.
The news about the JF-17 aircraft is clearly a signal that Pakistan is shopping for alternatives to Washington, though the value of the deal may be more symbolic than decisive in terms of Pakistan’s military capacity.
Pakistani military officials have consistently complained that American aid, which they would nonetheless like to keep flowing, falls short on many essential military items that the Americans have been reluctant to offer.
The United States provides Pakistan with F-16 fighter jets to help the country match the air power of its archrival India, but Pakistani military officials have complained that their F-16 fleet is aging.
The deal is another sign that Pakistan’s relations with China are frequently far less encumbered than those with the United States, and that in many ways the interests of Pakistan and China coincide more easily.
The United States may be Pakistan’s largest benefactor, but China is Pakistan’s largest trading partner, and for years the Chinese have heavily invested in building a deep-water port in the Pakistani city of Gwadar.
China is often referred to as Pakistan’s “all-weather friend,” a contrast to the common depiction of its up-and-down relationship with the United States, which is deeply unpopular here. |
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| Sat May 21, 2011 4:58 am |
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patriotic2k
Junior PK Member

Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 52 Location: pakistan |
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China is always a very good friend of Pakistan and supporting them
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| Mon May 23, 2011 1:30 am |
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UNJUSTICE
Junior PK Member


Joined: 15 Dec 2010 Posts: 57
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| Very nice, China! |
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The joint venture JF-17 is a symbol of friendship of the two great nations. One is famous for its peaceful attitude and the other is famous for sacrificing every thing for peace. Unfortunately our time-favor friend USA, who is famous for faithless friendship all over the world seeking reasons to abandon after taking her favor. The few F-16 those've been given to Pakistan are from the old version and do not meet today requirements. In such conditions JF-17 will definitely help PAF to breath.
_________________ JUSTICE WE NEED |
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| Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:05 am |
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asharali
Pak Newbie
Joined: 04 Jun 2011 Posts: 18
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China has always helped Pakistan when in difficult times.
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| Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:45 pm |
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I K QAZI
Moderator


Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 12641 Location: Germany |
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We welcome every friendship gesture from China.Our friendship is time tested.What I don't trust is our Presedent & his 40 thieves.Know for taking commission in every deal rather known b4 as 10% but now he eat up 100%.We should buy or get all required technology & euipments but in the meantime we shouldn't be used as a dumping market of out dated equipments.What I doubt is our own socalled leaders.
_________________ Ehl E Wafa Hi Is Tarah Sey Girtay Hain Ishq Mey
Girto Ko Thaam Kar Khud Bikhartay Hain Ishq Mey
Mohabbat Mey Khud Ki Nafi Karna Sharth Hai Qazi
Dil Walay Fana Ho Kar Hi Nikhartay Hain Ishq Mey |
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| Sat Jun 04, 2011 7:47 pm |
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patriotic2k
Junior PK Member

Joined: 10 Apr 2009 Posts: 52 Location: pakistan |
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Pakistan and china friendship is great for ever
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| Fri Jun 17, 2011 3:16 am |
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Altairx3
Pak Newbie
Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 1
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looks p good!
Adds to our military might!
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| Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:40 am |
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ayeshakhan560
Pak Newbie
Joined: 25 Jul 2011 Posts: 48 Location: Lahore |
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China pakistan ka buhat acha friend han. our is nay buhat kam kia our ker rahay han. JF- Thunder our bi buhat jangi jaz dayee.
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| Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:44 am |
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zaidzaid
Pak Newbie
Joined: 08 Oct 2011 Posts: 8 Location: Sydney |
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Pakistan shouldn't cooperate with chinks.
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| Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:09 pm |
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Jarhead121
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 28 May 2011 Posts: 688 Location: Pandora. UK |
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ZAIDZAID: Can you explain and give reasons, why Pakistan shouldn’t co-operate with China? Or perhaps, why don’t you introduce another country/s with whom Pakistan should co-operate and give us reasons as well.
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| Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:40 pm |
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Jarhead121
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 28 May 2011 Posts: 688 Location: Pandora. UK |
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JF-17 Specifications:General
Crew One
Maiden Flight August, 2003
Type Multi-Role
Cost $15m-$25m
Dimensions
Length 14.9 m 49 ft
Height 4.77 m 15.6 ft
Wing Area 24.4 m² 263 ft²
Weights
Empty Weight 6,411 kg 14,134 lb
Maximum Take-Off Weight 12,474 kg 27,500 lb
Maximum Landing Weight 7,802 kg 17,200 lb
Fuel Weight 2,268 kg 5000 lb
Performance
Maximum Speed 1,910 km/h – 1,187 m/h 1.6 Mach
Ferry Range 2,037 km 1,266 miles
Operational Radius 1,352 km 850 miles
Service Ceiling 16,794 m 55,500 ft
Thrust/Weight 0.95
G-Limit +8 / -3
Hardpoints 7
Engine
Name Klimov RD-93 Guizhou WS-13
Type Turbofan Turbofan
Origin Russia, China
Number of Engines One
Dry Thrust 49.4 kN 51.2 kN
Thrust After Burner 84.4 kN 86.37 kN
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| Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:03 pm |
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Jarhead121
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 28 May 2011 Posts: 688 Location: Pandora. UK |
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F-16 Fighting Falcon
Primary Function Multirole fighter
Builder Lockheed Martin Corp.
Power Plant F-16C/D:
one Pratt and Whitney F100-PW-200/220/229 or
one General Electric F110-GE-100/129
Thrust F-16C/D, 27,000 pounds(12,150 kilograms)
Length 49 feet, 5 inches (14.8 meters)
Height 16 feet (4.8 meters)
Wingspan 32 feet, 8 inches (9.8 meters)
Speed 1,500 mph (Mach 2 at altitude)
Ceiling Above 50,000 feet (15 kilometers)
Maximum Takeoff Weight 37,500 pounds (16,875 kilograms)
Fuel Single-Seat Two-Seat
370 Gal 600 Gal 370 Gal 600 Gal
Internal 7,000 7,000 5,700 5,700
External 5,000 8,000 5,000 8,000
TOTAL * 10,000 13,000 8,700 11,700
Fuel on 3 & 7 5,000 5,000 5,000 5,000
Conformal 3,000 3,000 3,000 3,000
* less 2,000 lbs for takeoff & landing
Combat Radius [F-16C] • 740 nm (1,370 km)
w/ 2 2,000-lb bombs + 2 AIM-9 + 1,040 US gal external tanks
• 340 nm (630 km)
w/ 4 2,000-lb bombs + 2 AIM-9 + 340 US gal external tanks
• 200 nm (370 km) + 2 hr 10 min patrol
w/ 2 AIM-7 + 2 AIM-9 + 1,040 US gal external tanks
Range Over 2,100 nm (2,425 mi; 3,900 km)
Armament One M-61A1 20mm multibarrel cannon with 500 rounds; external stations can carry up to six air-to-air missiles, conventional air-to-air and air-to-surface munitions and electronic countermeasure pods.
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| Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:33 pm |
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guruji
Pak Newbie

Joined: 30 Nov 2010 Posts: 30 Location: Fiji Islands |
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Chinese products are of low quality and generally not reliable
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| Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:47 pm |
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Jarhead121
Senior Member Pakistani


Joined: 28 May 2011 Posts: 688 Location: Pandora. UK |
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Chinese products are of low quality and generally not reliable |
No, I don't agree with you. Chinese products are used all over the world and again it is up to the client what he/she wants.
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| Tue Nov 29, 2011 10:28 pm |
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freeeadz.com
Pak Newbie
Joined: 01 Feb 2012 Posts: 5 Location: Lahore, Pakistan |
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Chinese products are of low quality and generally not reliable |
No, I don't agree with you. Chinese products are used all over the world and again it is up to the client what he/she wants. |
Me too agreed with Jarhead121
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| Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:11 pm |
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abbas.icmap
Pak Newbie
Joined: 10 Jan 2012 Posts: 21 Location: islamabad |
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| Pakistan-China friendship ZINDABAD |
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CHINA!!!
The true friend of Pakistan.
Thank you CHINA.
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| Tue Feb 07, 2012 2:20 pm |
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mahreenangel74
Pak Newbie

Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Posts: 30 Location: lahore |
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china he sirf pakistan ka ek kabil-e-itmaad dost hy
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| Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:57 pm |
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beducation2
Pak Newbie
Joined: 21 Feb 2012 Posts: 1
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Wow the chinese government are really helpful there is also an iPhone and Android App which you can use to search for jobs in china it called ChinaJobsApp. U can check it out
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| Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:53 pm |
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alviataylor
Pak Newbie
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Posts: 21
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China is the only country which has ever helped Pakistan.
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| Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:42 pm |
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maqboolfida
Full PK Member

Joined: 14 Aug 2009 Posts: 110
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| Re: Very nice, China! |
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The joint venture JF-17 is a symbol of friendship of the two great nations. One is famous for its peaceful attitude and the other is famous for sacrificing every thing for peace. Unfortunately our time-favor friend USA, who is famous for faithless friendship all over the world seeking reasons to abandon after taking her favor. The few F-16 those've been given to Pakistan are from the old version and do not meet today requirements. In such conditions JF-17 will definitely help PAF to breath.
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You should hold US accountable for what they did in Afghanistan..and they are paying the price today for it..but that doesn't mean pak is clean..look what you guys have done taking those mujahideen from afghan in kashmir...so stop blowing your trumpet..if you can live in peace do that..why in the world did you get involved with US in afghanistan against USSR???
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| Wed May 16, 2012 6:43 pm |
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jacinthemilton
Pak Newbie
Joined: 05 Jul 2012 Posts: 6
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Those two countries are getting stronger with their ties. Friendship never ends. 
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| Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:57 pm |
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amalook
Pak Newbie
Joined: 26 Sep 2012 Posts: 1 Location: Jhang |
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| very nice |
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But it will continue with new PM also?

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| Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:25 pm |
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