ARYAN RACE: AN OBJECTIVE AND HONEST ANALYSIS

The area of Pakistan, all the Indian subcontinent, Iran, Central Asia has a very clear history. No Semitic (Jewish-Arab) influence was known in this area before our blessed Islam (A Semitic) religion came into this region. All was Aryan and even to this day the people are mainly of Aryan Race stock in this region. We have no Macedonian or Greek blood, genetic testing done at Oxford has removed this doubt. In fact the British made many of our tribal areas to believe that we were Greeks or Macedonians, We were Aryans much before even Alexander. Also Iran has Aryan written all over her past even way back in 6th century BC. So let is not get swayed to lose our identity.The Kalash people are pure Aryans and also follow an Aryan religion and have nothing to do with Greeks or Macedonians. The Kalash language a Dardic Aryan language is original to this area for several millenia before Christ:

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No one should be allowed to seduce us from our great past.

Seeking true knowledge is an integral part of Islamic thinking.

THE ORIGINAL HOME OF THE RACE OF ARYANS WAS THE INDIAN SUBCONTINENT AND IRAN. THEY WERE THEN AND ARE ARYANS NOW

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I am Darius, the great king, the king of kings
The king of many countries and many peoples
The king of this expansive land,

The son of Wishtaspa of Achaemenid,

Persian, the son of a Persian,

'Aryan', from the Aryan Race

"From the Darius the Great's Inscription in Naqshe-e-Rostam"

The above scripture is one of most valid written evidences of the history of the Aryan race, and as can be seen, Darius the Great, the third king of Kings of the Achaemenid dynasty, in the 5th century BC

Asalaam u Alaeykum

we need to prove ourselves , and not get glory of our ancestors. Before we were ayrans who were we, where does ayran race start from. which nations arised from Nuh (as) and than who were his sons and which nations emerge from there. At the end we all come from ADAM (AS) and thus must be better than the other based upon our character, taqwaa not a label that we are this race. For indeed the blessed amongst the race is the tribe of rasul allah (saw) and even there through the teaching of messemger Muhammad (saw) we find that even if you see the bani quraish not follow islam than remove them. so who are we to label ourselve with ayran race and than our state is at rock bottom

salaam

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Shahid

[b][b]Brother,

Asalaam u Alaeykum

Our prophet (pbuh) said look for the truth. Before gloroius Islam came to our region, we also followed Aryan Religions like Zoroastrianism and Hinduism-Buddism. In these religions no Semitic prophets, Like Ibrahim, Daud, Issa, Naoh were known. The first man was not Adam but Manu (the word Man comes from this). After we took up our great Islam (a Semitic religion like Judaism) we started to accept, Adam, Ibrahim, Daud, Noah, Sulaiman and others.

Thus most of in the region are pure Aryans and now follow the greatest religion Islam, which is Semitic not Aryan.

If you have studied your religion you will realize that our prophets names, and even influence on Urdu language is Semitic as Jews and Arabs are cousins and children of Ibrahim.[/b][/b] Hebrew and Arabic are very close languasges. Praise be to Allah!

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	Brother, Asalaam u Alaeykum Our prophet (pbuh) said look for the truth. Before gloroius Islam came to our region, we also followed Aryan Religions like Zoroastrianism and Hinduism-Buddism. In these religions no Semitic prophets, Like Ibrahim, Daud, Issa, Naoh were known.

We can find also Nuh , Abraham , Sara (as) in Hindouism (Manuh , Brahma , Saraswita etc ...) and Zoroastrianism is very close to monotheist religions (judaism , christianism , islam) and above all it's close to islam (with the 5 prayers , the big similarity between Quran and Avesta etc ...)

Remember : in Qoran , we learn that all religions come from one God and God sent prophets and messengers to all people not only in Middle East and as the Quran says : 40/78 : And, indeed We have sent Messengers before you (O Muhammad ); of some of them We have related to you their story and of some We have not related to you their story, and it was not given to any Messenger that he should bring a sign except by the Leave of Allâh.

There are muslims that consider Zarathoustra and Buddha as messengers but , according the idea of these muslims , their original message was lost ...

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	The first man was not Adam but Manu (the word Man comes from this). After we took up our great Islam (a Semitic religion like Judaism) we started to accept, Adam, Ibrahim, Daud, Noah, Sulaiman and others.

It is the same ! Adam in arabic means "human" , and Manu , which comes from the word "manushiya" means also "human" in sanskrit and pahlavi Wink

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	Thus most of in the region are pure Aryans and now follow the greatest religion Islam, which is Semitic not Aryan.

maybe because the message of Islam is universal ...

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Amin !

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	NOORKHAN wrote:
	[ 'Aryan', from the Aryan Race "From the Darius the Great's Inscription in Naqshe-e-Rostam" The above scripture is one of most valid written evidences of the history of the Aryan race, and as can be seen, Darius the Great, the third king of Kings of the Achaemenid dynasty, in the 5th century BC

Okay but in Islam there is no notion of "race" ...

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	NOORKHAN wrote:
	[ 'Aryan', from the Aryan Race "From the Darius the Great's Inscription in Naqshe-e-Rostam" The above scripture is one of most valid written evidences of the history of the Aryan race, and as can be seen, Darius the Great, the third king of Kings of the Achaemenid dynasty, in the 5th century BC

Okay but in Islam there is no notion of "race" ...

Our Prophet (pbuh) would have been delighted. Yes indeed there is no racial link between the Semites (Jews and Arabs) and we the pure Aryans. After Islam appealed to us we accepted the holy Koran and Adam as the first man, before that we accepted Manu who had no link in history or religion to Adam.

Our religion has solid roots and we must respect the people of the book, but let us not marry with Semites (Jews and Arabs as some of us have) as then we will be Semitized ethnically by propaganda.
The Shah of Iran was proud to belong to the Aryan Race (no link to the Semites) and yet followed a Semitic religion Islam with great pride. the present leader of Iran Ahmadinjad may differ from the Shah but is proud to be a Muslim and yet an Aryan. The laws given through our beloved Prophet are divine thus perfect. Let us not be blind. We are Aryans following a Semitic religion Islam. The Prophet emphasized this when he said, "Educate yourself, even if you have to go to China".

nice discussion,,,though caste or race is not the criteria of being noble in Islam yet it has a social value and we should recognize that

This has surely become an objective discussion. Race and religion can be separate issues. Example Christ was Semitic (Jewish) yet he has many followers amongst Black Africans. Many Black- Africans follow Christianity but by Race they are Negroid.

Our Prophet (Pbuh) believed in the truth. The truth is many people in the Indian subcontinent are Aryans and a reasonable percentage follows the great Islam, a Semitic religion. In the spirit of our faith let us respect Negroids, Mongoloid People, Semities (Jews and Arabs), etc. yet there is nothing wrong in being proud of our rich Aryan Past.

Why do people always make a link between the pride and the culture or the past of a civilization etc ? I am proud of what I do by myself, what my hands do not of what people before me have done ! Have you chosen your origin ? Your family ? Your country ? Talking of "pride" in this kind of subject is totally illogical !

I am reading words like "pure", "pride"and it reminds me of the Hitlerian theories, sorry ....

PS : I am also of Persian origins so don't think that my post is against you or against your origins ...

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[color=red][color=red][[color=red]size=18]The Aryan Race has lived in the Indian Subcontinent, Iran and Central Asia for thousand of years. So how could they come to our region in 1,500 B.C.? Also Prince Ghazenfar Ali Khan of Hunza claims he is of European origin to get favour from the Europeans. In our very vicinity there are Aryan Mummies which are 4000 years old and these people also spoke an Indo-Aryan language. So how could Khan’s ancestors come to our country in 300 B.C? All this fabricated data is being clearly inserted to create a confusion in our region and get rid of the Aryan Race concept. But history can not be changed even if some people do not like the truth. Aryan Mummies---http://www.centralasiatraveler.com/cn/xj/h/images/h_c04_mummy_museum.jpg[/color][/color][/color][/size]