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Chuba
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Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 1
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An open letter to Begum Pervez Musharraf and wives of army officers
Dear Begum Pervez Musharaff,
I recognize that every one of us is responsible for our own acts, as such, being the wife of a Military Dictator and a former General of Pakistan Army, I wound not hold you responsible for his acts, however I will request you to consider following facts on humanitarian grounds being a women and a mother yourself.
As you know very well, your husband General Pervez Musharraff belonged to a lower middle class family, with limited resources and opportunities, however this nation provided him an opportunity and he became the Chief of Army Staff of fourth strongest army in world, no doubt, it is a great honor for any one, especially an army of a third world Muslim country where a common Pakistani travelling in a public bus would offer his seat as a token of respect when he see a man in Army uniform, a conductor will refuse to charge him bus fair and a poor roadside restaurant owner would refuse to accept the payment for his meal, I have witnessed tears in eyes of soldier’s when they get this much love and respect from people of Pakistan.
It’s not difficult to understand the feelings of people towards our armed forces, the men in uniform are supposed to defend our borders, our women and children.
Unfortunately, your husband blinded by greed for more power forgot about this love and respect towards the institution he was heading and dismissed a democratically elected government, this was a crime punishable by death under constitution but his seven point agenda was so appealing that most of educated and moderate Pakistani’s supported him after takeover in a military coup and took him as a savior of Pakistan.
He did not turned much different from other dictators in world; he has destroyed each and every institution in country right from Pakistan Army itself to Judiciary and committed biggest economic frauds in history of Pakistan, people who were expecting a developed and moderate Pakistan under his rule are worried about a decent meal a day and afraid to go out of homes because of bomb blasts in every street, while they stay at home there is power outage, but let’s not get in to these details.
What compelled me to write this letter to you and the great daughters of this nation like you who are married to, ‘Men in Uniform’ (I can not say how much manly hood is left in them) are the reports about Dr. Afia Siddiqui, a respected daughter of this nation like you and others, who is presently being detained in isolation by the Americans in their Bagram detention centre in Afghanistan, for over four years called ‘Prisoner 650’ and that she has been tortured to the point where she has lost her mind. Britain’s Lord Nazeer Ahmed, (of the House of Lords), asked questions in the House about the condition of Prisoner 650 who, according to him is physically tortured and continuously raped by the officers at prison. Lord Nazeer has also submitted that Prisoner 650 has no separate toilet facilities and has to attend to her bathing and movements in full view of the other prisoners.
According to reports the ‘Prisoner 650’ Dr. Afia Siddiqui, a PhD degree holder, was arrested by Pakistani intelligence agencies while on her way to the Rawalpindi airport and that she was later handed over to the American Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). At the time of her arrest she was 30 years and accompanied by her three sons the oldest of which was four and the youngest only one month, one week after her disappearance, plain clothed intelligence went to her mother’s house and warned her, “We know that you are connected to higher-ups but do not make an issue out of your daughter’s disappearance.” the mother was threatened of ‘dire consequences’ in case she didn’t followed the instructions.
On December 30, 2003 Dr. Fawzia Siddiqui, Dr. Afia’s elder sister met with Mr. Faisal Saleh Hayat (the then minister of interior) at Islamabad with Mr. Ejazul Haq, MNA, regarding the whereabouts of Dr. Afia. Mr. Faisal told Dr. Fawzia and Mr. Ejazul Haq that according to his information Dr. Afia Siddiqui had already been released by ISI and that she (Dr. Fawzia) should go home and wait for a phone call from her sister, however the whereabouts of Dr. Afia were not known until another Pakistani, Mr. Moazzam Begg (a former Guantanamo Bay detainee), who was arrested from Islamabad by ISI and later handed over to FBI recounted his experience during his detention in Bagram, Afghanistan in his book ‘Enemy Combatant’ after his release in year 2005.
After reading Mr. Begg’s book, a British journalist, Yvonne Ridley, decided to find further details about the ’Prisoner 650’ and visited Bagram and later called for help in a press conference on July 6, 2008, for a Pakistani woman. “I call her the ‘grey lady’ because she is almost a ghost, a specter whose cries and screams continues to haunt those who heard her,” Ms Ridley said at a press conference, Dr. Afia is being held by Americans for her alleged links with Al-Quaida operatives.
In the book ‘In the line of fire’, your husband General Pervez Musharraff has admitted the handing over of innocent people to Americans for bounty of Million of dollars in return, theses people are considered innocent unless given a chance of a fair trial and proven guilty by a competent court. He was COAS of Pakistan and self styled head of state and responsible to ensure the sovereignty of Pakistan and protection of lives and liberty of people.
Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan provided a guarantee to every citizen to be treated in accordance with law, there is a set procedure for those involved in criminal activities under Criminal Procedure Code which requires that charges against person involved in a crime outside the country and required by a International Police (Interpol) shall be brought before a court of law, the court shall decide about the validity and prima facie value of these charges and shall ensure that the person shall be treated according to law before handing him to a foreign state’s law enforcement agency. However in Dr. Afia’s case and handing over thousands other Pakistani’s to Americans, none of these procedures were followed, she was arrested with her children and handed over to Americans.
If she is involved in any criminal activity, she must have been treated in accordance with law, the charges against her should have been brought before a court and she must have been given a full opportunity to defend herself, even if found guilty, she, as a human being, enjoys protection under UN Charter of Human Rights while serving her sentence and her life and modesty is protected.
Her Children are as innocent as any other child and deserve the same opportunities and protection which is being provided to children of General Musharraff and other ‘men in uniform’. But unfortunately, those who are supposed to protect the women and children of this country have turned in to traders and selling their own people for sake of dollars.
In case the proper legal procedure was followed, it was ensured by court that she shall be treated in accordance with law; Dr. Afia would not have been subjected to inhuman treatment, sexual, physical and mental abuse to the point where he lost her mind!
You are blessed with children, you are a not only a mother but a grandmother, a daughter and a sister, apart from being the wife of a General, just imagine, what if it was not Dr. Afia it was your daughter Ayela and her beautiful children, and handed over to blood thirsty hounds, how would you feel if your daughter was being treated like Dr. Afia!
Please, look in to it from purely women’s prospective and think that how much dignity is left in the money with which you are feeding your children and grandchildren which is being paid by poor and helpless people of this country to your husband for protecting them and how much prosperity the dollars will bring in to your children lives which were earned by selling a daughter of this nation!
How can these soldiers stand with dignity and pride in front of their own daughters, sisters and wives, who arrested Dr. Afia, Moazzam Begg and thousands other missing Pakistani’s and handed them over to Americans for sake of money, which conquered Supreme Court of Pakistan when it was probing the issue of these innocent people.
Being daughters of this nation you have the power to take away that false pride from these cowards, you can make them realize that they are not much different from any other dirty pimp trading honor and modesty of a helpless women.
All of us have conscience, no matter how weak it becomes, it’s still there to guide us to make right decisions, no matter how late we are it’s never late to make a decision which is voice of our conscience, just take few moments and think over it and decide weather it’s worth spending rest of your life with the a person who have sold sons and daughters of this nation for his personal greed, who has betrayed the trust of those who assigned him the job to protect their women and children.
This country has given you a lot and it’s time to pay back that debt, obviously you are not in position to bring back the sufferings of Dr. Afia, her children or Moazzam Begg, but at least you can do this much, take away that false pride from the man who is responsible for sufferings of Dr. Afia, the pride and the dignity which he have shown you in uniform, which is symbol of bravery and sacrifice, for once ask your husband, why did he do this with a daughter of this country!
May Allah bless you and your children.
Best Regards,
A Son of Pakistan.
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adnanz
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| THE STAR RANKED ARMY OFFICERS ARE CORRUPT |
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Can any one give me any example of any honest army officer? Never, if a officer who is not corrupt will not be promoted to the Star Rank. And they are spoiling our country since independence. Can we expect that they can defend our country? I doubt,
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| Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:18 pm |
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pkb08101
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Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 11
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| Honest Army officer??? |
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Why is the focus on Army only. We as a nation are corrupt. Do we still remember the meaning of pakistan. Land of Pak (or good) peoples. Are we pak. i am sorry to say there is no direction of our nation. indeed as someone say we are not nation just crowd each person having his own agenda and direction.
and dont forget "u will have leaders the way people are" Bad people must have bad leaders.
cheers
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| Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:05 pm |
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ugwaraich
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Joined: 22 May 2007 Posts: 1529 Location: Karachi |
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A very good piece of writing. However, I dont think it will change mind of Mrs. Musharraf at all, as Power makes everyone deaf, dum and blind.
Many Many thanks to Yvonne Ridley, she is our hero, may ALLAH show kafirs the right path and if still they dont learn from their mistakes, may ALLAH burn them in hell like no one ever burnt.
I must just say that take out 2-3 nations out of this world, this world will be a better place to live. Americans, Israelis, Indians and some europeans.
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| Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:30 pm |
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amalgamall
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apart from 2-3 thing u have done a great job but i dont think that begum pervez would even know of this let alone study this post and change her mind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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| Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:36 pm |
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j@de
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| Fri Aug 08, 2008 4:00 pm |
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pery312
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In the first place after pervez musheraf whom will you going to nominated for the president, Please dont tel me Nawashareef, Or Asif Zardari, Do you think they are clean as milk. Lok at the current situation of pakistan, it is much worst as compair to then musheraf was in power, ............. we just want to pull other legs, why dont you go and try to manage the government urself
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| Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:56 pm |
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ugwaraich
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In the first place after pervez musheraf whom will you going to nominated for the president, Please dont tel me Nawashareef, Or Asif Zardari, Do you think they are clean as milk. Lok at the current situation of pakistan, it is much worst as compair to then musheraf was in power, ............. we just want to pull other legs, why dont you go and try to manage the government urself |
current crisis is also because of musharraf, Pakistan is unstable because of problems between musharraf and our democratic leaders, if musharraf or any leader passes an unsuitable remark that never has a good effect on our economy as stock exchange is crashed every other day because of this unstability and less investors invest in Pakistan everday.
Secondly, anyone except musharraf can be the hope of light for the nation. Musharraf is not a human being he has been selling our poeple to america, he has been killing our brothers and sisters and on top of that he has done more corruption than zardari and nawaz sharif alone; so that makes musharraf worse;;;
did you ever see Pakistani army killing innocent Pakistanis in the rule of Benazir or Nawaz sharif? a big NO. Benazir only killed MQM terrorists who used to terrorise people and kill innocent people in karachi, we all know about the cells of laloo khait, FB area, north nazimabad and korangi, so lets not go into that detail.
And everyone knows that who killed Hakim Saeed.
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| Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:54 pm |
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mohdmuslim666
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Joined: 11 Jul 2008 Posts: 15
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Why is the focus on Army only. We as a nation are corrupt. Do we still remember the meaning of pakistan. Land of Pak (or good) peoples. Are we pak. i am sorry to say there is no direction of our nation. indeed as someone say we are not nation just crowd each person having his own agenda and direction.
and dont forget "u will have leaders the way people are" Bad people must have bad leaders.
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YOU ARE SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE OF DICTATORS AND MULLAS. DON,T SAY THE NATION AS
CORRUPT. IT IS THIS MILITARY DICTATORSHIP WHICH USED THE CORRUPTION AS FUEL OF THEIR
DESIRES. ALL ARMY GENERALS TRY SUPPRESS TO GOOD LEADERS AND PEOPLE AND GAVE FULL
SUPPORT TO THE CORRUPT, CRIMINALS AND BAD PEOPLE. THESE GENERALS AND THEIR
AGENCIES TRIED TO INSERT BAD PEOPLE AMONG LEADERSHIP. IT IS THESE GENERALS AND
AGENCIES WHO FORGAVE THE CRIMINALS FOR THEIR DIRTY, UNLAWFUL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL
PURPOSES.
IT IS THIS MILITARY AND AGENCIES WHO DEPLETED THE NATION FROM LEADERSHIP AS THEY
WANT NO HURDLE IN THEIR DIRTY AIMS. THESE POLICIES RESULTED LEADERLESS NATION.
BUT EVEN NOW WHEN THEIR IS ANY PROBLEM IN ANY AREA OF PAKISTAN, ALL PEOPLE STAND UP
AND TRY TO HELP THEIR PAKISTANI BROTHERS AS U SAW IN CASE OF EARTH QUACK IN KASHMIR
BUT THIS DICTATOR AND HIS AGENCIES WERE ANGRY WHEN TV CHANNELS SHOW THE FACTS TO
THE PAKISTANIS. THEREFORE HE BANNED TO SHOW THE EARTH QUACK AREAS SO THAT PEOPLE
SHOULD NOT KNOW THAT ALL AID HAS BEEN EATEN BY HIM AND HIS GANGSTERS.
LIKE ALL DICTATORS HE IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH AND CANNOT TOLERATE THE TRUTH IN ANY WAY.
I KNOW MANY AGENTS ARE APPOINTED FOR SUCH FORUMS TO MASK THE FACTS AND TRUTH.
I HOPE YOU WILL NOT BE AMONG THOSE AGENTS.
A HELPLESS PAKISTANI
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| Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:35 pm |
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langrial69
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good , bad , good
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55104135502693
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You Did Well
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| Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:45 am |
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pery312
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Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 72 Location: Saudi Arabia |
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Why is the focus on Army only. We as a nation are corrupt. Do we still remember the meaning of pakistan. Land of Pak (or good) peoples. Are we pak. i am sorry to say there is no direction of our nation. indeed as someone say we are not nation just crowd each person having his own agenda and direction.
and dont forget "u will have leaders the way people are" Bad people must have bad leaders.
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I agree with you, atleast we can see what is really going on in our pakistan,and where are we heding, we cannot just blame others, we are as a whole nation is responsible for the future of pakistan . as it is a old saying that ager awam kharab hogi to usko utna hi sakh leader milay ga.
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| Wed Aug 13, 2008 12:58 pm |
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pery312
Junior PK Member

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Why is the focus on Army only. We as a nation are corrupt. Do we still remember the meaning of pakistan. Land of Pak (or good) peoples. Are we pak. i am sorry to say there is no direction of our nation. indeed as someone say we are not nation just crowd each person having his own agenda and direction.
and dont forget "u will have leaders the way people are" Bad people must have bad leaders.
cheers |
YOU ARE SPEAKING THE LANGUAGE OF DICTATORS AND MULLAS. DON,T SAY THE NATION AS
CORRUPT. IT IS THIS MILITARY DICTATORSHIP WHICH USED THE CORRUPTION AS FUEL OF THEIR
DESIRES. ALL ARMY GENERALS TRY SUPPRESS TO GOOD LEADERS AND PEOPLE AND GAVE FULL
SUPPORT TO THE CORRUPT, CRIMINALS AND BAD PEOPLE. THESE GENERALS AND THEIR
AGENCIES TRIED TO INSERT BAD PEOPLE AMONG LEADERSHIP. IT IS THESE GENERALS AND
AGENCIES WHO FORGAVE THE CRIMINALS FOR THEIR DIRTY, UNLAWFUL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL
PURPOSES.
IT IS THIS MILITARY AND AGENCIES WHO DEPLETED THE NATION FROM LEADERSHIP AS THEY
WANT NO HURDLE IN THEIR DIRTY AIMS. THESE POLICIES RESULTED LEADERLESS NATION.
BUT EVEN NOW WHEN THEIR IS ANY PROBLEM IN ANY AREA OF PAKISTAN, ALL PEOPLE STAND UP
AND TRY TO HELP THEIR PAKISTANI BROTHERS AS U SAW IN CASE OF EARTH QUACK IN KASHMIR
BUT THIS DICTATOR AND HIS AGENCIES WERE ANGRY WHEN TV CHANNELS SHOW THE FACTS TO
THE PAKISTANIS. THEREFORE HE BANNED TO SHOW THE EARTH QUACK AREAS SO THAT PEOPLE
SHOULD NOT KNOW THAT ALL AID HAS BEEN EATEN BY HIM AND HIS GANGSTERS.
LIKE ALL DICTATORS HE IS THE ENEMY OF TRUTH AND CANNOT TOLERATE THE TRUTH IN ANY WAY.
I KNOW MANY AGENTS ARE APPOINTED FOR SUCH FORUMS TO MASK THE FACTS AND TRUTH.
I HOPE YOU WILL NOT BE AMONG THOSE AGENTS.
A HELPLESS PAKISTANI |
Language of mullas and dictator, do you think we dont want good for this country. we are also pakistani, i just believe in one thing, that before pointing out others we should repair ourselves. pakistan mai naik oor shareef insaan ki misaal shezad roe nay apnay news song mai batai hai, aaj kal naik wohi hai jis ko mokka nahi milla. aaj appko president musherraf say replace kerdain phir dekhna kis terha app nay apnay accounts bhernay hain.
couruption koon kerta hai, yeah aap oor hum hi hain, musheraf aaker tum say paisa rishwat nahi laitta. who are raising prices in the market in the name of mehangai, yaar halat itnay buray nahi jitnay hum loog khud kerdaitay hain. just ask yourself what have you done for your country, where is the nationalism. we can just come on media and say bad words about our leaders, have you ever though what impression it will create about pakistan among other nations. mind one thing that who ever come out on streets and do propaganda is not from us, these are one who do not have worries about food and they are living in luxuries. we should think for development of this nation, i think this current leaders have made the situation much worst, look at the economy of the pakistan, where is the fireigner investment now. this is not the way to tackle the situation, and country affairs are not settled on streets, there are proper channels for that and can be settled with peace too.
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| Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:17 pm |
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imtiaz2334
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| Army is our strength |
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Please dont speak against the army. They are the greatest strength of our nation. Long live pakistan and independence day mubarak to you all!
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| Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:26 am |
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sarfarazlovesu
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| Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:55 am |
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rocky
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salam to every buddy
Jashan-e-azadi mubarak to all pakistanis (is there any)
is the day which is the greatest day of all to country their independence day so that what we have today but do we know what it means really I donnt think so , the top news of todays is impeachment of president and the funniest thing is that 99.1 % pepole donnt even know the meaning of this and the pakistani people have the shortest memory in the world for example the diffrence between who is impeaching and who is impeached the people who are impeaching their past is full of voilations of every thing also the constitution but they are the elected by the people of pakistan same as the past times when suprem court of pakistan was attacked by Nawaz sharif govt or when the qarz utaro mulk sanwaro scheme was looted by his gov OR on the other hand when the whole pakistan was on sale from zardari associates and the pakistan was is the top ranking of curruption.
so pls think about it that whats going on and what are you doing.
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nouman310
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| Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:43 am |
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pery312
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salam to every buddy
Jashan-e-azadi mubarak to all pakistanis (is there any)
is the day which is the greatest day of all to country their independence day so that what we have today but do we know what it means really I donnt think so , the top news of todays is impeachment of president and the funniest thing is that 99.1 % pepole donnt even know the meaning of this and the pakistani people have the shortest memory in the world for example the diffrence between who is impeaching and who is impeached the people who are impeaching their past is full of voilations of every thing also the constitution but they are the elected by the people of pakistan same as the past times when suprem court of pakistan was attacked by Nawaz sharif govt or when the qarz utaro mulk sanwaro scheme was looted by his gov OR on the other hand when the whole pakistan was on sale from zardari associates and the pakistan was is the top ranking of curruption.
so pls think about it that whats going on and what are you doing. |
VERY NICE, I DO AGREE WITH YOU , WELL DONE
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baba007
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pkb08101
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| Jishan azadi mubarak |
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Salam to everone.
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| Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:18 pm |
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rashidawan
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confused!
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| Thu Aug 14, 2008 7:45 pm |
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nonapona
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I am touched with your words bro. The man has degraded the nation to an extent that people are hiding their IDs and nationalities. I pray to God that he gets deserving treatment. Following the comment from someone below that "bad leader" for "bad nation" - just think for one second how bad we are as nation that we have leaders like Musharaf and Zardari !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:23 pm |
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mavrik2k
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First of all .......those who try to create a negative image of army are not pakistani........
have u every said any thing about ur family or any person in your home who is responsible for your safty.......
every one is not an angel ........
i read that can any one give a name of an honest army officer who has been promoted to a star rank
General mushtak shaheed ....... was killed by a suicide bomber....
under stand this that these bombing in pakistan are not a result of musharaf policies rather a planned attempt to weak our defences ..... none other than
our neighbors......
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| Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:19 am |
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jutt512
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one an army officer is promoted to colnel, his mentalily is that he is a better pakistani then other.. and so called national interest is actually his personal interest.
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hello735
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Begums can do a lot unless they are also corrupt.
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