A True Pakistani Video (Video updated )

A True Pakistani Video

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It has become a fashion rather habit to criticise the Leaders, Rulers and Politicians, mostly.
Yes! Most of them are corrupt, inefficient and incapable.
What about 99.9 % Pakistani people, who are always looking for a Dictator or Imam Mehdi or Allah to set them right?
Do they perform their duties honestly? Do they pay their taxes? Do they respect and follow the traffic rules and regulations?
Do they have any civic sense?

Dear Shikra

I have been trying to raise the same points , in this forum, but it seems that as a nation we love to curse, put blame on everyone, except ourselves.

I once again repeat one of my point
The mosques are full
There is too much concern about what to wear, how to wear, etc etc
There is too much stress on size and style of beards
There is too much stress on brailvi, jamati, deubandi, etc. etc
etc etc etc

but we dont try to adopt the best points of Islam, which were learned by the non muslim europeans, from us.

Some of these best points are
Cleanliness
Straighforwardness
Honesty
Respect
Education
Forwardness not backwardness
Research
Using the mind, and not just accept what our political/religious leaders, etc. etc. say
etc
etc

BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO TAKE NOTE OF

just c wat v r doing as individuals before criticizing any one else,,,things will improve only if v all do our duty first

OMG..... the first pic was soo damn funny...haha lol Laughing

This video is really ironic; however, our politicians do not understand the situation of Pakistan right now. I wonder these politicians came with the same promises, same speeches and same motives. Consequently, our people still support them. All this is our fate or just outcome of our nation?

a nice video but we should do something practically to educate our bothers
basic education is very necessary to know their rights

Any way a step forward,but yes we have to educate our masses & show them the real faces of these Chors.Although such a videos doesn,t scratch on the conscience of these Thuggs."Bains ke aage been bajana" but every effort is appreciated.

Great vedio

Qoom ko QARZ UTARO MULK SANWARO ki raqam ka hisab chahiay, Zadari say IPP mein %age ka hisab chaiay. Mihtarma ki 2 hakoomatein ZADARi ki corruption ki waja say khatam hoin.

Aur namm nihad mullaoon say, jo qoom ki betion ko marta chor kar LONDON mein apc attend karnay chaly jatay hein.

In sab ka hisab qoom ko khud lena chaiya. KAB TAK AWAM sooti rahi gi.

Dear Nasooh, Inn ke tamam gunah jo aap ne chand ginwaye hain aur jinki list bohat daraaz he.Wo Qaom kabhi bhi aage nahih jaa sakhti jab thak wo loagoh se puraana hissab na le le.Inn loagoh ke gunah tho "Tbat al nasooh"se bhi muhaf nahih ho sakhte ke inno ne humari Qaom ka haq khaya hoowa he.Issi cheez ka ahsaas dilane ke liye hum waqtan fawaqtan apni Qaom ko yaad dilaate rehte hain.Kya hum sirf issi qabil ke ye sub Chor kaprre,hamaame,huliye,nahre aur rang badal badal ke humari Qaom ko lootne aa jhate hain.Inn ka rokna zaroori he.

shikra wrote:

It has become a fashion rather habit to criticise the Leaders, Rulers and Politicians, mostly.
Yes! Most of them are corrupt, inefficient and incapable.
What about 99.9 % Pakistani people, who are always looking for a Dictator or Imam Mehdi or Allah to set them right?
Do they perform their duties honestly? Do they pay their taxes? Do they respect and follow the traffic rules and regulations?
Do they have any civic sense?

You seem like sitting in America thats why you are are talking about taxes and stuff but I tell you that no body pay taxes by choice or do they? Its easy to criticise your own brother. I know what civilsed world is all about. If you have read the history then you should know that they were all robers, crimnals and pirates and worse then us. They have become so called civilised after centuries and you are expecting pakistanis to act same in 50 years. Its understandable when a rape happens in Pakistan but how would you justify some thing like what happened in France? If you remember, there was group of paedophiles where 4months babies were involved. How the hell can anybody justify that? And what's the harm in looking to Allah as a last resort? What would you look at when you have no hope? Where would you like to go if are to be kicked out from your safe heavon???

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SA Kayani

You seem like sitting in America thats why you are are talking about taxes and stuff but I tell you that no body pay taxes by choice or do they? Its easy to criticise your own brother. I know what civilsed world is all about. If you have read the history then you should know that they were all robers, crimnals and pirates and worse then us. They have become so called civilised after centuries and you are expecting pakistanis to act same in 50 years. Its understandable when a rape happens in Pakistan but how would you justify some thing like what happened in France? If you remember, there was group of paedophiles where 4months babies were involved. How the hell can anybody justify that? And what's the harm in looking to Allah as a last resort? What would you look at when you have no hope? Where would you like to go if are to be kicked out from your safe heavon???

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SA Kayani

@ sakayani,
By putting the real issue and the topic of the thread aside, you started throwing and spitting venom against the West.
I am sure a nation comprising of people like you, even Allah cannot set right.
The society you have mentioned, have done so many extra -ordinary achievements in the fields of Science, Technology, Health, Education, Economy, Art and Culture. Even the rapes, Sexual freedom, crimes, murders and so many social evils didn't prevent their progress within 100 years.
They are shinning

Fine if you do not agree with me but,
What do you think of Allama Iqbal's saying
Apni umat ko qayaas aqwam-e-maghrib par na kar
Haas hey tarkeeb main Quom-e-Rasool-Hashmi

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SA Kayani

What where Allam Iqbal also said:

firdous jo tera hai kisi ne nahin dekha
afrang ka har qaryya hai firdous ki manind,

And what where he says:

Deen-i-kafir fikr-o-tadbeer-o-jihad
deen-i-mulla fi sabeel allah fasad

Let me just intervene,Our problem is that we expect too much from others rather leaning on.We should correct our mistakes & try to solve our problems rather than criticising West or others.The reason is that it is clearly said in Quran e Kareem not to rely on "Yahood & Nussarahs" which Allama Iqbal translated into this Verse.But we should not expect does not mean not to interract or having relations with West & westen people.As a Muslim we should be very broad minded,having knowledge of Islam in its true spirit & we should generalise things.How to convey the real message of Islam to western people only through our real Islamic character which means not only to fullfill the basic "Arkaan e Islam" rather Islam emphasising on "Muamalaat" our relations with other humanbeings,dealing correctly in every sense with other human beings eg.buyig,selling,respecting others believes,having good relations with neibours,respecting everyone private spheres,"Amanaat" of every kind etc because we have to show & present our religion in its true spirit,also not to forget that Allah is never mentioned "Rab ul Muslimeen" rather "Rab Ul Halameen"(Creator & God of Humanbeings) Even the Rasool Allah (SAW) is "Rahmat ul il Halameen" as well.Islam does not stop us learning knowledge from anyone,having relations with anyone (Accept Murtadeen)etc.There is no doubt for us to live the practical Islamic life anywhere in the world but in the meantime we have to present & project the positive side of it,not blaming others unnecessarily,start Islam from ourself & not to lean on or expect from others.If we mind our own business,not expecting from others than we will not be decieved.We have to safeguard or religious & national interests,let the other do their work.We do criticise USA,Britain & other countries etc for their anti- Islam intentions,perceptions & efforts but when we do that means not the people of these countries rather their governments & their policies.We can only convey the universal message of Islam in its true spirit to the others specially to non Muslims,with our good Islamic behaviour,conduct,way of living & way of respecting others.We need to stand on our own feet,work towards self relliance,self sufficiency, believing on ourselves & on our own resources for which we need a true & honest leadership.Criticising others is useless rather we should act as a nation,should keep an eye on our own polititions,their policies,on their responsibilities.Acountability start from our selves.

	shikra wrote:
	What where Allam Iqbal also said: firdous jo tera hai kisi ne nahin dekha afrang ka har qaryya hai firdous ki manind, And what where he says: Deen-i-kafir fikr-o-tadbeer-o-jihad deen-i-mulla fi sabeel allah fasad

First one exlains that we believe in life after death and for them, this world or life is everything. Isn't it? And in the second one mullahs have been criticised. All I want to say is that wealth does not necessarily makes a man a better human.

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SA Kayani

inayat khan qazi wrote:

Let me just intervene,Our problem is that we expect too much from others rather leaning on.We should correct our mistakes & try to solve our problems rather than criticising West or others.The reason is that it is clearly said in Quran e Kareem not to rely on "Yahood & Nussarahs" which Allama Iqbal translated into this Verse.But we should not expect does not mean not to interract or having relations with West & westen people.As a Muslim we should be very broad minded,having knowledge of Islam in its true spirit & we should generalise things.How to convey the real message of Islam to western people only through our real Islamic character which means not only to fullfill the basic "Arkaan e Islam" rather Islam emphasising on "Muamalaat" our relations with other humanbeings,dealing correctly in every sense with other human beings eg.buyig,selling,respecting others believes,having good relations with neibours,respecting everyone private spheres,"Amanaat" of every kind etc because we have to show & present our religion in its true spirit,also not to forget that Allah is never mentioned "Rab ul Muslimeen" rather "Rab Ul Halameen"(Creator & God of Humanbeings) Even the Rasool Allah (SAW) is "Rahmat ul il Halameen" as well.Islam does not stop us learning knowledge from anyone,having relations with anyone (Accept Murtadeen)etc.There is no doubt for us to live the practical Islamic life anywhere in the world but in the meantime we have to present & project the positive side of it,not blaming others unnecessarily,start Islam from ourself & not to lean on or expect from others.If we mind our own business,not expecting from others than we will not be decieved.We have to safeguard or religious & national interests,let the other do their work.We do criticise USA,Britain & other countries etc for their anti- Islam intentions,perceptions & efforts but when we do that means not the people of these countries rather their governments & their policies.We can only convey the universal message of Islam in its true spirit to the others specially to non Muslims,with our good Islamic behaviour,conduct,way of living & way of respecting others.We need to stand on our own feet,work towards self relliance,self sufficiency, believing on ourselves & on our own resources for which we need a true & honest leadership.Criticising others is useless rather we should act as a nation,should keep an eye on our own polititions,their policies,on their responsibilities.Acountability start from our selves.

Thats all true but my whole point was that living in a developed county does not give us right to criticise our own people.

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SA Kayani

If the real life starts after death, why you are supporting those who are making this World look like Hell?
Nations like America and Japan get closer after fighting the II World War, and the Muslims for the last 1400 years are working how to kill and destroy the Jews and the Christians and other Infidels.
The west produced Scientists, Engineers, and Philosophers, who contributed a lot to serve the Humanity in the fields of Science, Technology, Medicine, Art, Culture, Electronics, Education, and economics, where the Muslim world is promoting, producing and patronizing Terrorists and Suicide Bombers, killing the innocent civilians.
Let the Non-Muslims and Infidels enjoy the life before death and you wait for the life after death.

If we live anywhere our identity is Pakistan.I can only criticise my brothers when I want them to wake up because no matter where we are our heart beats with Pakistan & with Pakistani people.We are never fascinated by the west & their so called culture.When we discussing amongst us we can do productive criticism but when come to the outsiders we defend our country like lions.We are not seperated from our people,we mostly criticise the political system & corrupt polititions not our Masses because we are from them.Our families & roots are in Pakistan.we need to see our own country to be develop where we belong to.What I want from my nation to stand on their own feet & not to expect from others.We have resources,man power & potential,what we actually need is a true pakistani leadership.

shikra wrote:

If the real life starts after death, why you are supporting those who are making this World look like Hell?
Nations like America and Japan get closer after fighting the II World War, and the Muslims for the last 1400 years are working how to kill and destroy the Jews and the Christians and other Infidels.
The west produced Scientists, Engineers, and Philosophers, who contributed a lot to serve the Humanity in the fields of Science, Technology, Medicine, Art, Culture, Electronics, Education, and economics, where the Muslim world is promoting, producing and patronizing Terrorists and Suicide Bombers, killing the innocent civilians.
Let the Non-Muslims and Infidels enjoy the life before death and you wait for the life after death.

Well my friend you are not familier with history then. Who killed who, you can find that in pages from the past. And who is stopping them from enjoying their life?

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SA Kayani

inayat khan qazi wrote:

If we live anywhere our identity is Pakistan.I can only criticise my brothers when I want them to wake up because no matter where we are our heart beats with Pakistan & with Pakistani people.We are never fascinated by the west & their so called culture.When we discussing amongst us we can do productive criticism but when come to the outsiders we defend our country like lions.We are not seperated from our people,we mostly criticise the political system & corrupt polititions not our Masses because we are from them.Our families & roots are in Pakistan.we need to see our own country to be develop where we belong to.What I want from my nation to stand on their own feet & not to expect from others.We have resources,man power & potential,what we actually need is a true pakistani leadership.

I meant people who are Pakistanies themseves but look down at their fellow country men.

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SA Kayani

It is their own complexes & they are fools to do so.If you spit towards sky come down on your face.Theere are some people crossing all the limits to be integrated & nationalise abroad but it doesn,t change their origin.We belong to where our roots are,no matter you do anything to forget your real identity,it will follow you eg.You can have the foreign nationality & passport,firstly it is written their where you are born,secondly our faces & features are our real passport,so how to hide them.Everywhere in the world the foreigners remain foreigners,so they have to accept that fact & live with it with grace.Most important of everything is your feelings,sentiments & your sense of belonging.The people laugh or mock at their fellow Pakistanis are small people with a lot of complexes,they thing to make some one small their hight will grow but reality remains.By doing so they are denying their identity & roots,someone do so are illigitimate.Be proud of what you are,when you respect yourself than others will respect you.Allah Hamdo Lillah I am enjoying a sound & respectable position here as a Pakistani.never felt or face any problem rather calling my self anything else will firstly negate my identity & the locals cannot,will not accept me because it is obvious to them who originally I am.

good ond nice

shikra wrote:

It has become a fashion rather habit to criticise the Leaders, Rulers and Politicians, mostly.
Yes! Most of them are corrupt, inefficient and incapable.
What about 99.9 % Pakistani people, who are always looking for a Dictator or Imam Mehdi or Allah to set them right?
Do they perform their duties honestly? Do they pay their taxes? Do they respect and follow the traffic rules and regulations?
Do they have any civic sense?

yes they a traffic police constable perform his duty honestly and then he doesn't have enough money for dinner at the night. yes they pay taxes.Sales tax on every thing from the store, even the bread they buy. But they never get incentives as a reward for that. Very few of them have civic sense, most are selfish.

I, from beginning, is blaming the system for this. Yes i noe we are the one makes it. But selfishness is something which is in every person; not just pak ppl. The system should be right. Mushharraf govt took steps, they computerized the ID cards, passports, taxation and land records. I am not another musharaff freak; he also did some wrong things though. But the Govt should further take steps to implement strict rules and regulation so that a greeb can get the reward he deserves. Alas for the gareeb people of pakistan.