1st Anniversary of Shohdayee Lal Masjid Operation

Allah se dua hai kay Tamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen
Or Is Operation kay Zammay Daroon ko Dyunya me hi Sabaq Sikhaa ameen

Not all of them are women - leader of Lal Masjid is one of them, spot who ! Lal masjid leadership hides behind women's burqa -- Is this Islam ?

www.durdesh.net/news/Article619.html
"Whether it is a Maulana Abdul Aziz or an Osama Bin Laden, no preacher of hatred wants to see his own family suffer or to find martyrdom himself. The Maulana extracted a promise of martyrdom from hundreds of young people and then conveniently tried escaping with a woman's and by hiding among young girls."

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Should this be going on in a Masjid ? Did leaders of Lal Masjid have any shame at desecrating the place of worship ?

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do u know what is the reason of this incident if u don't 9 so plz read this

well mene jo reason bayan kia (masajid Shaheed karne ka) aapne inkar kardia to me yahan kuch prove kay sath dobara reason post karr raha hoon takay ye ap sab ko maloom ho jae kay Jamia hafsa kay students sarkoon per kioon niklay or unhoo ne library ka qabza kioon kia................. agar phir bhi yaqeen na ae to jang News Paper ya kisi dosray news paper kay office se phone kar kay maloom kar saktay hain AAP..........

REASON:
Ye letter Jamia Hafsa ne Govt. ko likha tha::::

I draw your attention to our Muslim Pakistani Government. They are going against the laws of Quran (above) and hadith. In a Muslim country masajid and madariss should be encouraged but the very people responsible for attending to them are demolishing them

The government of Pakistan has demolished a masjid in Islamabad and has given warrants to 30 other masajid and madaris to demolish them by themselves, In other case government will be going to destroy them forcibly within 15 days,
More Details :
The Islamabad district administration and Capital Development Authority (CDA) on Saturday demolished two mosques near the Islamabad Highway and Murree Road after intelligence reports indicated they could be used to launch terrorist attacks on VIPs, including foreign dignitaries, traveling to and fro from the airport The CDA claimed that the demolition was in accordance to a ruling by the Council of Islamic Ideology (CII) that mosques and madariss constructed on encroached land were illegal.
"The government has launched an operation against mosques and seminaries in Islamabad, therefore, the Ittehad-e-Tanzimat- e-Madaris-e-Deeniyah (ITMD) has decided to boycott its dialogue with the government," ITMD central leader Qari Hanif Jalandhry Sahib said.
Students of Jamia Hafsa yesterday "occupied" a government library, adjacent to the seminary, in protest against the demolition of Amir Hamza Mosque on Murree Road and others.
The girls said they had decided to "raise their voice" after area residents remained "silent" over the issue.
The students told city magistrate Farasat Ali that they would end their peaceful protest if the government reconstructs the mosques, withdraws demolition notices sent to various mosques and promises not to demolish any mosque in future.
Thousands of Islamic activists rallied in the Pakistani capital Wednesday to protest against the demolition of two mosques that authorities said were built in violation of the law.
"Down with [President Pervez] Musharraf," the crowd of around 5,000 demonstrators chanted, condemning what they say are the pro-American policies of the military strongman. The protestors marched from the city center and dispersed peacefully at a nearby market while hundreds of riot police armed with batons kept a tight vigil.
"MP Maulana Abdul Malik said
"Demolishing holy places is inviting the wrath of God and all this is being done on the orders of Parvez Musharraf, who is an American agent here.
Demolished Amir Hamza mosque
General Zia ul-Haq, the then chief executive of the country who encouraged the building of seminaries during his term, had issued directives for the construction of this mosque

Agar Ab bhi Dil me koi baat reh gae hai to 1 Interview post karr raha hoon ye bhi parhleen to shayad kuch Haqeeqat ka pata chal sakay:

On 12th July, AAJ Tv boradcasted a program of Live with Talat in which Talat Hussain visited Jamia Hafsa. While touring the bullet ridden compound a number of military personal hovered around, at a certain point Talat Hussain asked an accompanying Army personal about all the evidence of smoke around the area asking, “Why is there so much smoke?”, the solider replied “WP”, Talat put another question “Please explain WP?”, the solider answered “White Phosphorus.”
is a flare / smoke producing incendiary weapon which is also used as an offensive Anti-Personnel flame compound capable of causing serious burns or death. White phosphorus weapons are controversial today because of its potential use against humans, for whom one-tenth of a gram is a deadly dose and according to the Geneva Convention which was later amended by the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons signed into effect in 1997, expressively prohibits the use against civilians. White Phosphorus weapons have been used in the recent past by Israel in Lebanon and US and UK in Iraq, but probably the first time ever by a an army against its own people

This Is Islam

This Is Islam???????????????????

	mushytail wrote:
	Are they the so-called shauhada ?? Pointing guns towards Pakistani law enforcement & shooting to kill ? Is this Islam ?

Lol@u weirdo!!! Peek a boo!!! I hope u gotcha

What u kno bout Islam!!!!??

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I am sure a lot of people have their own gripes with government. The way to resolve is to have it discussed in the parliament and brought to the courts, that sensisble and logical.

Converting places of workship into an armed compound and bunker, kidnapping citizens and enforcing judgement, essentially running your own government in the capital is just sheer wrong. Tell me one place in the world or which govt. will ever allow such an insanity ?? No one will.

Hint, don't try it again Smile

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i agree with you 110 percent..
we are muslims.. dont try to make teach us ur version of islam which only promote hate

mushytail wrote:

I am sure a lot of people have their own gripes with government. The way to resolve is to have it discussed in the parliament and brought to the courts, that sensisble and logical.

Converting places of workship into an armed compound and bunker, kidnapping citizens and enforcing judgement, essentially running your own government in the capital is just sheer wrong. Tell me one place in the world or which govt. will ever allow such an insanity ?? No one will.

Hint, don't try it again Smile

Priya

	CoolMind wrote:
	Allah se dua hai kay Tamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen Or Is Operation kay Zammay Daroon ko Dyunya me hi Sabaq Sikhaa ameen

AFTER READING THIS INTERVIEW,I SWEAR I HAD TEARS IN MA EYES....MARTYRS OF JAMIA HAFZA AND LAL MASJID WERE JUST TRYING TO SPREAD ISLAMIC VALUES IN THE WHOLE PAK.......BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAD TO FACE MUSHARRAF,WHO IS NOT A MUSLIM ACCORDING TO ME.....

mein bhi dua kerti hun keTamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen

fairy552 wrote:

	CoolMind wrote:
	Allah se dua hai kay Tamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen Or Is Operation kay Zammay Daroon ko Dyunya me hi Sabaq Sikhaa ameen

AFTER READING THIS INTERVIEW,I SWEAR I HAD TEARS IN MA EYES....MARTYRS OF JAMIA HAFZA AND LAL MASJID WERE JUST TRYING TO SPREAD ISLAMIC VALUES IN THE WHOLE PAK.......BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAD TO FACE MUSHARRAF,WHO IS NOT A MUSLIM ACCORDING TO ME.....

mein bhi dua kerti hun keTamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen

Unless you are wahabi yourself, you will not agree that what they spreading is NOT Islam or Islamic values. It is what Al wahab made up in 1700s and being propagated by Ibne Saud Tribe.

What they represent, the ideology and practices they attempt to impose upon all Muslims, is a narrow-minded interpretation that neither captures the spirit nor the humanity of Islam. Unfortunately, they are particularly vocal and well-funded (courtesy of the “house of Saud”, the 19th century upstarts whose only legitimacy to the throne of Saudi Arabia is the fact that the British colonial empire so despised the Ottomans and in return for their support to fight the Ottomans, placed the Sauds in possession of Saudi Arabia and thus the sacred landscape of Islam).

Wahhabism’s claim to a “true” Islam is not based on an enlightened position, but rather intimidating, silencing, accosting, and berating any who speak and practice differently (as well as out-funding them in mosque building and out-maneuvering them in the placement of Imams). Rather, they attempt to enforce their virulent interpretations through intimidation and by erasing from the sacred landscape of Islam any symbols and historical markers that suggest a more humane, spiritual, and plural Islam.

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AGAIN

i want clear some thing here :

wahabi name is not exist cos the name is from shia call the sunna as " wahabi "

its not kind of a religion

Smile

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	loje wrote:
	AGAIN i want clear some thing here : wahabi name is not exist cos the name is from shia call the sunna as " wahabi " its not kind of a religion

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

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mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN i want clear some thing here : wahabi name is not exist cos the name is from shia call the sunna as " wahabi " its not kind of a religion

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

wahabis is nothing not a religion its aname just aname

Fabricate by shia

and people mixed the names

those who killed Innocent people not ahuman bieng in the first how we call them muslims i dont want judge people here cos Allah knows who is muslim and who is not but i want to say that islam doesnt tell us to kill Innocent people even in war if we see some one who doesnt has a sword in his hand we should leave him how if some one complete Innocent

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the wrong people say's ::

if u want to report suspicious that not exist between people together then u should reapet it more and more

and this is what opponents of shiekh Mohamad bin abd Alwahab - Allah mercy of him -

that they liyed about him that he disbelieves (( muslims)) and killed them and they do this lye alot and publish it

but the wise person doesnt judge on a person from his enimes's talk , they judge him from his words and his actions after presentation on balance quraan and sunna .

alot of wise people when exposed to condetions of shiekh that his enemies start with disbelevie him and fighting without any right

the high people in mecca have taken a hostile attitude against the call of shiekh Mohamad and the saudi state in the beggining

so one of these high people presion the hujjaj that followed by saudi state in 1167Ah

and the judge become with fatwa that disbelives Mohamad and his follows

thats why they prevented from preforming the pilgrimage for many ears

and how was shiekh great joy when he received aletter from sharif Ahmed bin saeed year (( 1185 AH ))) asking him about sending a scholar from najd to explain the call he want's to publish and the student was sent to shiekh Abdulaziz alhosaien

and he sent with him aletter predicting words what was in his heart from the good feelings toward this sharif and filled his heart hopes that he will be with him in his call that the letter did not work cos the sharif Ahmed him self has no more in power for more than a year and the hope he has ((( Mohamad )) dissappeared

and the preventing still for the pilgremage and didnt stop on that but they attacked the states of saudia in 1305 Ah - 1790 Ad

and the result was that saudi win in this and hijaz entered under thier rules

the sharif masood ordered that they should corresponds the scholars of haramaen those who claims that Mohamad bin abdalwahab disbeleiver

and he saw that thier faith is Containing alot of disbelives and he prevented them from entered mecca

there is a complete of this but i want to reach this point :

Which caused disagreement among the people that Sheikh Mohammed ordered people not to build Domes on the graves because the Prophet peace be upon him Prevention of

shiekh AbdulAllah son of Mohamad said: this religion which we call it has emerged between people from long time and alot of people disbelive us and fight us and we had no gult than we Stripping the unification
and prohibition on distress others not Allah

and they do alot of heresy then at least they recognized after denial

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mushytail wrote:

fairy552 wrote:

	CoolMind wrote:
	Allah se dua hai kay Tamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen Or Is Operation kay Zammay Daroon ko Dyunya me hi Sabaq Sikhaa ameen

AFTER READING THIS INTERVIEW,I SWEAR I HAD TEARS IN MA EYES....MARTYRS OF JAMIA HAFZA AND LAL MASJID WERE JUST TRYING TO SPREAD ISLAMIC VALUES IN THE WHOLE PAK.......BUT UNFORTUNATELY THEY HAD TO FACE MUSHARRAF,WHO IS NOT A MUSLIM ACCORDING TO ME.....

mein bhi dua kerti hun keTamam Shaheed Honay walay Students ko Jawar-e-Rehmat Me jaga Naseeb Karay Ameen

Unless you are wahabi yourself, you will not agree that what they spreading is NOT Islam or Islamic values. It is what Al wahab made up in 1700s and being propagated by Ibne Saud Tribe.

What they represent, the ideology and practices they attempt to impose upon all Muslims, is a narrow-minded interpretation that neither captures the spirit nor the humanity of Islam. Unfortunately, they are particularly vocal and well-funded (courtesy of the “house of Saud”, the 19th century upstarts whose only legitimacy to the throne of Saudi Arabia is the fact that the British colonial empire so despised the Ottomans and in return for their support to fight the Ottomans, placed the Sauds in possession of Saudi Arabia and thus the sacred landscape of Islam).

Wahhabism’s claim to a “true” Islam is not based on an enlightened position, but rather intimidating, silencing, accosting, and berating any who speak and practice differently (as well as out-funding them in mosque building and out-maneuvering them in the placement of Imams). Rather, they attempt to enforce their virulent interpretations through intimidation and by erasing from the sacred landscape of Islam any symbols and historical markers that suggest a more humane, spiritual, and plural Islam.

Miss mushytail, wot made u think tht i m a wahabi...am a 100% sunni and proud to be one..ok lemme come to the point, if u hve read my comment carefully then u would knw tht i m just supporting Islam and Islamic values..there isnt any concept of wahabi and sunni...So according to u, supporting our religion is wrong....one thing i dont understand tht how u can link this topic with Wahabism..thts weird....Lastly i dont wanna give any clearification about wot kind of muslim i m ,especially in front of a non-muslim (for u i would say tht read wot u post coz most of the time u keep on arguing on any topic without any reason)

mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

lol. what do u know about islam

tell me The 6 functions of islam

Yess, the 1st aniversery. and wut a way to celebrate it by killing 20+ ppl more.

God help this nation of ours.

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CoolMind wrote:

mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

lol. what do u know about islam

tell me The 6 functions of islam

Tell me 3 functions of Hindusim Smile

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mushytail wrote:

CoolMind wrote:

mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

lol. what do u know about islam

tell me The 6 functions of islam

Tell me 3 functions of Hindusim Smile

we dont need to know and we dont care Wink

and we didnt claim that we know hindusim like what u do with islam Smile

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mushytail wrote:

CoolMind wrote:

mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

lol. what do u know about islam

tell me The 6 functions of islam

Tell me 3 functions of Hindusim Smile

we dont need to know and we dont care Wink

quote]

Thank you for illustrating my viewpoint. I don't care to recite Islam either Smile

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[quote="mushytail"]

loje wrote:

mushytail wrote:

CoolMind wrote:

mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

lol. what do u know about islam

tell me The 6 functions of islam

Tell me 3 functions of Hindusim Smile

we dont need to know and we dont care Wink

quote]

Thank you for illustrating my viewpoint. I don't care to recite Islam either Smile

then why u all the time talking about islam if u dont care Wink

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mushytail wrote:

loje wrote:

mushytail wrote:

loje wrote:

mushytail wrote:

CoolMind wrote:

mushytail wrote:

	loje wrote:
	AGAIN

However, Wahabis are still a threat to Pakistan and its Islamic values & culture. Wahabism is not Islam, just an intolerant version of someone so-called religion. It must be stopped.

lol. what do u know about islam

tell me The 6 functions of islam

Tell me 3 functions of Hindusim Smile

we dont need to know and we dont care Wink

Thank you for illustrating my viewpoint. I don't care to recite Islam either Smile

then why u all the time talking about islam if u dont care Wink

Looks like you are not paying attention. I have not been talking about Islam but about Wahabism what claims to be Islam and is not.

Wahhabism, and its variously inspired kin such as the Salafis and in its most warped manifestation the Taliban, are not Islam. In fact, much of what they preach and practice is quite un-Islamic: particularly when dealing with women, their unacceptance of multiple forms of devotion, their sitting in judgment of others, and their silencing of debate. These go against the very teachings of the Prophet (PBUH), which they proclaim they are preserving.

What they represent, the ideology and practices they attempt to impose upon all Muslims, is a narrow-minded interpretation that neither captures the spirit nor the humanity of Islam. Unfortunately, they are particularly vocal and well-funded (courtesy of the “house of Saud”, the 19th century upstarts whose only legitimacy to the throne of Saudi Arabia is the fact that the British colonial empire so despised the Ottomans and in return for their support to fight the Ottomans, placed the Sauds in possession of Saudi Arabia and thus the sacred landscape of Islam).

Wahhabism’s claim to a “true” Islam is not based on an enlightened position, but rather intimidating, silencing, accosting, and berating any who speak and practice differently (as well as out-funding them in mosque building and out-maneuvering them in the placement of Imams). Rather, they attempt to enforce their virulent interpretations through intimidation and by erasing from the sacred landscape of Islam any symbols and historical markers that suggest a more humane, spiritual, and plural Islam.

take it easy dear why u so angry Razz

still
its all about islam Wink

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